One would think in today's virulent and seething partisanship that a lefty like myself would actually prefer the hatred by the Rightwing of the Clinton's and anything liberal in the 1990's. In some way's the hatred against Clinton was less destructive and did not have the mantel of executive power to perpetuate it to its constitutionally destructive ends. Sure Clinton had a little military adventurism and Monica, but he didn't lie to invade Iraq, trash the bill of rights, illegally spy on American citizens, okay the use of torture, let the CIA set up secret prisons, radicalize the Department of Justice, raise the national debt, inflate the size of government, etc……. 

The primary difference between Bush-era conservatism and Clinton-era conservatism was that the hypocrisy was hidden and we (I) took their conservative rhetoric hook-line-and sinker and I "a dreaded Liberal".  I actually took the Newt Gingrich's and Bob Barr's at their word. You know what they said, "Fiscal Responsibility, Personal Responsibility, Against Nation Building, Smaller Government, etc……"  In the Bush-era, all of these "so-called conservative" standards that they pushed were all a lie (BTW - Newt and Barr were having affairs of their own during the Clinton Impeachment). 
Now, I never turned into a conservative unlike that opportunist cry-baby Charlie Sykes in the mid 90's, but at the time and still at this time some of what they said was right. The one ethic I took most to heart is the ethic of "Personal Responsibility". In a way, the late Clinton period tempered my Liberalism, which I am glad I went through. This period allowed me to actually realize that Bill Clinton as President was wrong, now I don't think his lying about Monica was impeachable, but it was ethically and morally despicable. I will not defend his actions at the time. Nor will I defend Jim Jeffords for taking Bribes, nor will I defend Eliot Spizter, I will not defend politicians or leaders on the left for being hypocrites and liars. I will not defend or rationalize Obama's FISA vote, nor his faith based initiative. In my view they are wrong. I will not defend somebody just because of their political label and party affiliation. 

Today this hypocrisy is no longer subterfuge, all of the excuses and scapegoats have been used, all the anger and hatred has become a caricature in popular culture, critics have been beaten into the dirt and lives ruined, the deliberate use of misleading or wrong information to obfuscate reality, the use of seething hateful tactics to destroy ANYBODY who disagrees, to defend blindly these "so-called conservative" ethics, while not living by those standards and ethics themselves. The virulent blind defense of Bush and Republican Corruption is antithetical to the conservative standard of personal responsibility I was reminded constantly by conservatives in the 1990’s.
The conservative standards of personal liberty and responsibility mean nothing in the Bush-era, with this zealotus rage to crush a "liberal" by any means necessary, to defend what irresponsible, criminal, and anti-constitutional actions carried out by the Bush Administration. The win-at-any-cost and power-for-powers- sake philosophy has effectively destroyed what conservatism was supposed to mean in the 1990's. For instance, Kosovo: even though I disagreed with the Republicans in congress they were still loyal opposition and the conservative standard was against Nation Building, and they still were not traitors. Today, Nation building is fine because Bush is president and 9/11 happened???? What??

This hypocrisy is out in the open due to the zealotus hatred of critics, the willingness to close eyes and minds to reality, and the willingness to trample over conservative standards for the blind defense of Bush and Republican corruption. 
So when I hear people declare themselves as "conservative", I have to ask what kind of conservative? 
The one that uses 9/11 as an end-all-be-all excuse for trampling on the bill of rights and constitution and torture or the zealot who's hatred for anybody with a different point of view manifests itself with personal attacks and dehumanization of that person. Or the kind that states "Liberals are as bad as terrorists" or that "Liberals are destroying America!"  When I hear these words it is funny in a tragic way, but also impels me to hold these "so-called conservatives" responsible for their actions, hold them responsible for their words.

So this is were it stands, if a statement is made against liberals that has extreme implications, you better be able to back it up with evidence and be able to take responsibility for what you write. 

Freedom of speech does not free people from the consequences of the content of what they say. At least this is something I keep hearing from “so-called conservatives.”

 I used to write often. This is a short story, I did quite a long time ago. I think it is interesting in the fact that it brings up more questions than it answers. Science, religion, or maybe it was just blind commentary.

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Desert Sea 

 A BLACK FLAG FOR WHITE AMERICA

"In a sense, America being composed of every heritage of Europe embodied a collective will of our European folk, a power that created great documents of freedom and wonderful examples of courage. It embodied a national will that accomplished the greatest adventure in the history of mankind, the placing of European footprints on the moon.Contemporary to that American lunar accomplishment, the seeds of destruction were sown in the racist, anti-European, Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, an act that discriminates against European immigrants (like us) and favors the Third World. In those years the media and its all-seeing-eye of television fell under the iron grip of a small tribe of non-Europeans who nurtured ancient hatreds against us since the time our Greek and Roman European forbears conquered them.Now, the dreams of our forefathers have morphed into our own living nightmares in which anti-White racism and and White self-hate dominate the political and media landscape. Millions of our people face massive racial discrimination in the Newspeak of “affirmative action.” We have lost the educational system our people created and made one of the best in the world, to the point where millions of our people can’t send their kids to the schools their own taxes pay for, where their children not only face educational mediocrity, but often the far worse fate of physical beatings, sexual assaults and the drug environment of gangstas and gangsta rap-infested schools.  
 "Our people find their taxes being doled out by the billions for the medical care and welfare of illegal aliens and welfare cheats while millions of our hard working people can’t get or can’t afford the most basic medical insurance. We spend trillions of dollars of American tax money in foreign wars orchestrated by those in our midst who are themselves foreign to every value of America and who are themselves loyal to a foreign nation. Must I invoke the two names of the chief orchestrators of the Iraq War, the Jewish extremists, Wolfowitz and Perle? Does anyone really still believe that the Iraq War is on behalf of America?These same supremacists who have us die and go bankrupt for Israel as a segregated, supremacist, “Jewish State,” tell us that it is evil for White Americans to preserve our civil rights, our heritage, our traditions and our values in the nation we founded. Not content with destroying the European heritage of our own country, they now use the military and economic, media and social might of the United States to influence and destroy the racial foundations of every White nation on earth. The aliens who control the media and political establishment of America use the might of our country to support every degenerate and destructive policy imaginable, from open borders to a pornographically sick international media, where every kind of sickness, perversion, immorality, dishonesty and ugliness is relentlessly promoted.Obama, though not appreciably different in policies from Clinton or McCain, is symbolic of that transfer of the control of America from White to anti-White. However, he is not the author of his success. He is the result of decades of anti-White propaganda promoted by the alien media and he is the result, as are McCain and Clinton, of millions of dollars of Jewish agenda money like that of Obama’s biggest campaign contributor, Goldman Sachs. He is propelled by the dynamics of Black and minority racism, and the anti-White racism instilled in far too many of our own kind."

 URL: http://www.nowpublic.com/world/supremacist-david-duke-essay-obama

And mainstream Republicans question why they have a perception problem with miniorities?

Dallas hardware store wants George W. Bush to be its door greeter

"[W]e are offering the position to Mr. Bush in all sincerity," said Kyle Walters, Elliott's Hardwar president & CEO. "We think it would be a great fit for him as he settles back into life in Dallas."

http://metrocolumnistsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/02/elliotts-hardware-offers-ex-pr.html

 I think it's a job that George "Dub-aya" Bush can handle. After all his administration's foreign policy wasn't to much different than  hammering square pegs into round holes.

http://www.basicsproject.org/american_fifth_column/ideology/american_fifth_column.htm

“The New Media Journal is an independent division of BasicsProject.org, a non-profit, non-partisan 501(c)(3) research and educational initiative whose mission is to re-introduce the American public to the basic elements of our constitutional heritage while providing non-partisan, fact-based information on relevant socio-political issues important to our country, specifically, but not limited to, the threats of aggressive Islamofascism and the American Fifth Column.”

What is even scarier though it that this organization is trying to say by implication that Democrats and Liberals are more or less communists, anti-American, and more or less traitors. More accusation by implication, to bad they don’t have the guts just to say it openly. I put this into the quotes, “ (republicans and conservatives)” and this “(democrat party and liberuls) , to fill in the words that they really want to include, but don't becuse they do not want to lose their 501 status.

I found this site on the web. It’s called “Fundies Say the Darndest Things”, or maybe it could be called "Fundies are they smarter than fifth graders". 

URL:  http://www.fstdt.com/

Here are a few excerpts from their top 100. The moderators pick through religious websites for these great gems. I personally love the science related ones. There’s also a lot of hatred pointed at atheists:

 I tell you scary stuff and then funny, sad, then hilarous, and then very very scary again.

The thing is, is that a larger amount of people in this country believe more in creationism than in evolution. The majority of  the second largest political party, the Republicans, believe more in creationism than in evolution.

URL: http://www.gallup.com/poll/27847/Majority-Republicans-Doubt-Theory-Evolution.aspx

 Jan. 6th, 2009

Walker says no thanks to federal stimulus dollars

"The last thing you want to do is put money in hands of government," if the goal is to pull the economy from recession, Walker said. Walker's stance fits with his conservative ideology and the turf he's begun to stake out for himself as a potential Republican candidate for governor in 2010, said County Board Chairman Lee Holloway....Walker said he'll announce his plans on the 2010 governor's race in the next month or two."

Jan. 9th, 2009

Walker won't rule out taking U.S. stimulus aid

"I'm not opposed forever" to carrying out projects with federal money, he said Friday. "If they put money in programs where we have legitimate needs, of course we are going to look at that."

URL: http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/37372774.html

Today:

Walker touts proposal to use stimulus funds to cut sales tax

" Brandishing a shovel as a prop and sounding like a candidate for governor, Milwaukee County Executive Scott Walker today attempted to redefine "shovel-ready" projects to include broad tax cuts. Walker, in his "state of the county" speech, called for the governor, Legislature and County Board to back his idea of a 9-month sales tax holiday, a property tax rebate and business tax breaks and to give up bricks-and-mortar projects financed by federal stimulus money."

He can't even make sure people who need help can get food stamps: "No matter what side of this debate you find yourself on, everyone agrees the current system is broken. Today, if you are seeking access to programs such as BadgerCare Plus or FoodShare, you have a one-in-100 chance your call will be answered. You have a one-in-five chance that your FoodShare benefits will be cut off mistakenly, forcing you to reapply, hurting your ability to feed your family.....This system needs to be fixed not only for residents but also for the department and the county to avoid penalties from federal courts and the federal government. In the summer of 2008, a class-action lawsuit was filed against the department and Milwaukee County because the problems have existed for too long. In order to settle this lawsuit, there must be a concrete plan to improve the system." Karen Timberlake is secretary of the Wisconsin Department of Health Services. URL: http://www.jsonline.com/news/opinion/39396692.html

We've seen how, Walkers strict adherence of ultra-conservative principles, rarely bending to making pragmatic common sense decsions for Milwaukee County these past years or with working successfully with the common council. And even with his playing lip service to the idea, his only suggestions are TAX CUTS, can't he also find some other uses for the stimulus money as well?

I hope Milwaukeeans finally realized the mistake they made in re-electing Scott Walker. His utter mismanagement of Milwaukee County, it's disgraceful.

He is no Tommy Thompson, Thompson was at least pragmatic, and he tried to build consensus among the State.

Walker cares only for himself and his ambition to become governor, he only cares about his rightwing base. Scott Walker is an opportunist, and has used Milwaukee as his platform for 30 second ads in the campaign. "No Taxes, No Taxes"

Just imagine the Damage he could do as governor.

Big Oil:

a) Gov. Doyle in this years budget address said he wanted to put a windfall tax on Oil Corporations for the mega-profits. Gas was between $1.99 a gallon and $2.05 gallon in Milwaukee; I can only imagine that is was higher in Waukesha County. While the price of sweet crude has been holding steady around $43 dollars a barrel and price per gallon of gas has been steadily rising at the same time, for some reason.

b) After his threat of a windfall tax, gas has been dropping in price in Milwaukee; it’s about $1.93 per gallon.

c) Interesting don’t you think?

Fiscal Conservatism & Responsibility:

a) During the 8 years of GW Bush as president Congressional Republicans and spineless democrats, six of which were in near total governmental power by Republicans, doubled the national debt into the trillions and borrowed more money from China than at any other time in our history. When the Republicans were in control of congress no spending bill was vetoed by GW Bush, including the bridge to no-where and other republican earmarks and pork pushed through.

b) When Obama became president and was trying to pass his economic stimulus bill, which will spend and borrow over $700 Billion dollars, Congressional Republicans stood hard and stuck with their fiscal conservatism credentials, and only 3 republican senators voted for the bill. These 3 of course are on the chopping block for not sticking with the party group think.

c) I would hate with my elitist ways to point out the hypocrisy in the above ironic use of the fiscal conservatism principle by the Republicans. I guess massive borrowing and spending is okay when a Republican is in the executive, this is the only I can seem to rationalize this flagrant excess in situational ethics. Principles be damned, were in power!

Right-wingers want Obama's (Liberal?) policies to fail: Rush! Oh big great gas bag of infinite ego and arrogance. Oh mighty purveyor of twisted justice, reason, and ant-wisdom. Oh Oxycotin, sex tourist, Viagra loving megalomaniac of knowledge. The great El Rusbho the all knowing and bloody hand delivering rightwing ditto head justice.

a) Rush and other Right-wingers want Obama, some say just his liberal policies to fail. What logical sense does this make. From what I read of the echoed rhetoric/talking points, there’s no difference between socialism and liberalism from the rightwing, Obama is a liberal and hence a socialist (among terrorist friend and alley during the campaign). you honestly think that we lefties don't have memories. How could you respect somebody you already smeared.

b) If this is the case, then most of Obama’s plans are liberal/socialist in nature

c) They want Obama to fail. Sorry guys you can’t have your cake and eat it to on this one. This is not a form of logic. You want Obama to fail and take the country down with him. This is anti-American in its purest most vile spiteful form when you put your party and grudge over the safety and economic health of the nation. And then justifying this POV by saying since "liberals wanted Bush to fail it’s okay for us to want Obama to fail" Honestly, I wish Bush didn’t fail look a the mess our country is in, but he had a long history of failure even before getting selected the first time and elected the second time.

American Soldiers Killed: 4,250 URL: http://icasualties.org/Iraq/index.aspx

American Soldiers Wounded: 29,320 combat and 31,325 non-combat URL: http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003721852

Estimated Iraqi Dead:100,000

Cost of Iraq War: $637 Billion and counting URL: http://zfacts.com/p/447.html 

Cost per Month: $12 Billion URL: http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=4418698

Estimated cost when finally finished, Former White House economist Lawrence Lindsey : $100-$200 billion URL:http://money.cnn.com/2008/01/10/news/economy/costofwar.fortune/index.htm

TARP distributed by the Bush administration with no oversight of major banks. Majority of congressional Republicans voted for this: $350 billion

Cost of Stimulus Bill with accountablilty and oversight, the last 3 remaning pragamtic Republicans voted for this: $700 Billion

Why the sudden change back to fiscal conservative princples they forgot about the past 8 years?

Could it be they've been voted out of power becuase they failed the United States and the vast majority of Americans.

Or Maybe the fact that their betrayel of personal responsibility, fiscal conservatism, against nation-building were all empty slogans.

Or maybe it is simpler that that, Maybe all they cared about was power, and princples be damned that last 8 years.

(2/3/2009 edited to add content)

Let’s have a little lesson in balance my friends (Sounds of inhaling and puffing cigar smoke in the background).

I the great El Jakebo, with both brain hemi-sphere’s tied behind my neck, often insulted with words such as idiot, called a traitor, and a hamster by right-wingers, will show you how to analyze a piece of evidence.

Exhibit A my friends(coughing in the background):

Exhibit Beeeeee (paper ruffling in the background):

Okay I’m back,

So in the Short Term the Bill will do what it set out to do, stimulate the economy through spending.

Funny thing is, is that I would agree with the CBO if Obama did not say this,

"Why should Blacks be heard? They're 12% of the population.
Who the hell cares."

"Too many whites are getting away with drug use...Too many whites are getting away with drug sales...The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them, and send them up the river, too."

The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies."

"They oughtta change Black History Month to Black Progress Month and start measuring it."

"Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it."

"Sorry to say this, I don't think he's been that good from the get-go. I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well." --on Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb, while working as a commentator on ESPN.

"Secretary Powell says his endorsement is not about race," Limbaugh wrote. "OK, fine. I am now researching his past endorsements to see if I can find all the inexperienced, very liberal, white candidates he has endorsed. I'll let you know what I come up with."

LIMBAUGH: Yeah. This is -- you're not going to believe this, but it's very simple. And the sooner you believe it, and the sooner you let this truth permeate the boundaries you have that tell you this is just simply not possible, the better you will understand Democrats in everything. You are right. They want to get us out of Iraq, but they can't wait to get us into Darfur.

CALLER: Right.

LIMBAUGH: There are two reasons. What color is the skin of the people in Darfur?

CALLER: Uh, yeah.

LIMBAUGH: It's black. And who do the Democrats really need to keep voting for them? If they lose a significant percentage of this voting bloc, they're in trouble.

CALLER: Yes. Yes. The black population.

LIMBAUGH: Right. So you go into Darfur and you go into South Africa, you get rid of the white government there. You put sanctions on them. You stand behind Nelson Mandela -- who was bankrolled by communists for a time, had the support of certain communist leaders. You go to Ethiopia. You do the same thing.

Take that bone out of your nose and call me back(to an African American female caller).

"Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society."

"We're not sexists, we're chauvinists -- we're male chauvinist pigs, and we're happy to be because we think that's what men were destined to be. We think that's what women want."

"Therefore, you've got a woman and a black for the first time ever on the Democrat ticket. Ahem. They don't have a prayer."

"I tell people don't kill all the liberals. Leave enough so we can have two on every campus – living fossils – so we will never forget what these people stood for."

"The phony soldiers." --on U.S. service members who support withdrawal from Iraq

"He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. ... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting." --on an ad by Michael J. Fox endorsing Claire McCaskill for Senate for supporting embryonic stem cell research

"This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation...I'm talking about people having a good time, these people, you ever heard of emotional release? You ever heard of the need to blow some steam off?" --on the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal.

"Too many whites are getting away with drug use...Too many whites are getting away with drug sales...The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them, and send them up the river, too." --in 1995

"I am addicted to prescription pain medication." --in 2003

"She comes to me when she wants to be fed. And after I feed her -- guess what -- she's off to wherever she wants to be in the house, until the next time she gets hungry. She's smart enough to know she can't feed herself. She's actually a very smart cat. She gets loved. She gets adoration. She gets petted. She gets fed. And she doesn't have to do anything for it, which is why I say this cat's taught me more about women, than anything my whole life." --on his cat

"I've been racking my brain. I've been trying to figure out how Bob Dole's luggage got on my airplane...I told the doctor, I said, 'Look, I'm worried about the next election.' ... A misunderstanding." --after he was detained by custom officials for possessing Viagra with a prescription made out in someone else's name.

"The only way to reduce the number of nuclear weapons is to use them."

uh Tonya, the phony soldier was just exactly that. This piece of scum claimed to have had combat experience and claimed to have been wounded in combat.

Poverty is not the root cause of crime.

I keep on hearing this revisionist history:

Fiction: Bush kept us safe after 9/11. I don't mean to state the obvious but 9/11 happened 7 days before the anthrax letters.

Fact: "It was really the anthrax letters -- with the first one sent on September 18, just one week after 9/11 -- that severely ratcheted up the fear levels and created the climate that would dominate in this country for the next several years after. It was anthrax -- sent directly into the heart of the country's elite political and media institutions, to then-Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle (D-SD), Sen. Pat Leahy (D-Vt), NBC News anchor Tom Brokaw, and other leading media outlets -- that created the impression that social order itself was genuinely threatened by Islamic radicalism."

URL:http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/01/anthrax/index.htmlIs

Fact: The Anthrax letters killed 6 people, but not only that but starting a war against Iraq stapled onto the terror war is were over 4,000 American soldiers have been killed. How can you keep americans safe from death by starting a war? This is REALITY

Episode 1: The Debate

“Me Hulk hate liberal”  

         “Hulk know all liberals lie”

“Me Hulk smash liberal with Fist”

          “Hulk Win Debate!”

"You believe that reality is something objective, external, existing in its own right … But I tell you, Winston, that reality is not external. Reality exists in the human mind, and nowhere else. Not in the individual mind, which can make mistakes, and in any case soon perishes; only in the mind of the Party, which is collective and immortal. Whatever the Party holds to be truth is truth. It is impossible to see reality except by looking through the eyes of the Party."

Michelle Bachmann Calling for Violent Overthrow of Elected Government

Exhibit A: "She then went further, suggesting that all liberal views — held by people such as Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, professors, and all Americans who identify themselves as "liberals" — are "anti-American." When host Chris Matthews, stunned by her remarks, asked Bachmann how many people in Congress hold anti-American views, she responded, "You’ll have to ask them."

URL: http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/17/bachmann-anti-american/

Exhibit B: "BACHMANN: If you want to look at economic history over the last 100 years. I call it punctuated equilibrium. If you look at FDR, LBJ, and Barack Obama, this is really the final leap to socialism. … But we all know that we could turn this around and we can turn this around fairly quickly. We’re still a free country. "

URL: http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/05/buchmann-thwart-obama/

Exhibit C: "At this point the American people - it's like Thomas Jefferson said, a revolution every now and then is a good thing. We are at the point, Sean, of revolution. And by that, what I mean, an orderly revolution -- where the people of this country wake up get up and make a decision that this is not going to happen on their watch. It won't be our children and grandchildren that are in debt. (Like she gave a squat about the debt during the Bush years!)

" Right now I'm a member of Congress. And I believe that my job here is to be a foreign correspondent, reporting from enemy lines. (Liberals and democrats are enemies) And people need to understand, this isn't a game. This isn't just a political talk show that's happening right now. This is our very freedom, and we have 230 years, a continuous link of freedom that every generation has ceded to the next generation. This may be the time when that link breaks. And I'm going to do everything I can, I know you are, to make sure that we keep that link secure.

URL: http://www.americablog.com/2009/03/us-representative-michelle-bachmann.html

"Mr. H,

Will anyone expose Matt Pickard for being caught with not only lying about what people said, but changing bloggers comments so they hurt the person who wrote them? How does this paper/blog site allow dishonest people like this village idiot, MC, to even stay here? As one who has seen my fair share of people leave because of the idiot Pickard twins, I would ask the living lake organization to  kick him off for lying and breaking your rules. Do you guys even have rules or is this paper another dishonest msm liberal machine and only enforces rules to those that are not liberal."

URL: http://community.livinglakecountry.com/blogs/fighting_liberal_lies/archive/2009/04/08/obama-and-our-ticket-to-hell.aspx

   It seems a common theme among him, Jim H, and Amy to try to get us kicked off LCL blogs. Only if BillyJ had the courage to actually say this stuff to our virtual faces I might give him a little credit.  Then again he supports torture, so why am I not surprised.

   BillyJ you've been trying for months to get some response from either one of us, now's your chance.

  Do you have the guts to reply on my blog? Do you have the courage to call me all these names to my virtual face! Do you have evidence of your accusations against me?

First here is my response to him from his latest Blog URL: http://community.livinglakecountry.com/blogs/fighting_liberal_lies/archive/2009/04/08/obama-and-our-ticket-to-hell.aspx

Jacob…No you did not write blogs about me or my wife. That’s because you were hiding behind the fake name liberahammer. When you were LH you made very disgraceful comments about my wife and I that were absolutely not true and hurt her and my children.

None of you liberals could get to me so you decide to drag in my wife. This is why I left liberalism and why few if any trust you or your brother. But I forgive and move on. Unfortunately with this situation, God gave me a memory and forgetting is most difficult.

BillyJ sent me an email and asked if he could post his comments you requested from your blog on my blog post. Know why? Molly and Billy do not trust either of you and that trust was totally lost when your brother was caught cheating and editing comments from bloggers to fit his agenda.

That’s lying, stealing, and cheating. Why does that not matter or get an apology from an atheist? Since the LCR doesn’t seem to care about what Matt does, how can you have bloggers want to even stay here. It looks like rules are NOT for liberals. If Amy or I had cheated and lied like Matt did, I assure you we would have been in front of the Milw JS editorial board.

You do know what happened to the extremely liberal NY Times, US News and World Report, ABC, Dan Rather, and Marilyn Mapes. They all lost jobs and careers due to their liberal lying.

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These hateful liberals were caught doing the same thing Matt Pickard did. This is why some want him removed since he broke the rules and one of the biggest: changing a bloggers words in a comment so to make him look good and the blogger bad. Who does he answer to when he breaks the rules?

"Mr. Hamster, aka: Jake Pickard,

I’m sending this to Amy and Jim’s blog. I don’t trust you or your bro and I doubt anyone does either.

Correct me if I’m wrong but it’s your bro (I still wonder if you are Matt’s made up toy doll) that was caught cheating and lying and changing people’s comments from those that knock him down when he prints is foolishness.

Your hate and lack of respect for anyone who is not an atheist liberal is why few have dialogue with you or Matt. And no, I don’t want to meet you because I don’t believe in torture or violence. You might get hurt. Now grow up, head back to your cave, call your straw man bro, and read a book."

It's obvious that I have to answer to BillyJ and he's going to kick my *** and beat the c**p out of me.

New York Republican Rep. Peter King thinks his party needs to go nuke if Bush era officials are prosecuted on torture charges.

King, the outspoken ranking member of the House homeland security committee, said Republicans should "shut down activity across the board" if any Bush-era officials are hauled into court.

"We would need to have a scorched-earth policy and use procedural means to bring the place to a halt — go to war," he told POLITICO.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0409/King_Tor...

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Accountability of those on the same ideological side means nothing to conservatives these days. How very sad.

I guess moral relativism is alive and well on the right side of the tracks these days.

Not only that, but they will be protecting people who advocated the use of torture and go down in history as torture apologists.

I think how refreshing it would be to see somebody on the right condemen torture and those who allowed it to happen by the United States, becuase then I might have a little hope that this Moral Relativism that has eaten the Soul out of conservative movement might be squashed. They might have a chance then.

Until then, I will enjoy the republican and conservative race to the bottom, except for those times that rightwingers use assualt weapons to murder innocent people some of which may be liberals of course.

(note: edited for formating at 5:53pm 4/23/09)

  It's a simple yes or no question.

   Please answer and give your reasons why?

URL: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_specter_switch

Why is it that conservatives hate big brother's taxes to be used for social programs that help all Americans, but like big brother to spend our taxes on war to kill people from other countries??

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090531/ap_on_re_us/us_tiller_reaction_2

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090531/ap_on_re_us/us_tiller_shooting

"A protester shot Tiller in both arms in 1993, and his clinic was bombed in 1985. More recently, Monnat said Tiller had asked federal prosecutors to step up investigations of vandalism and other threats against the clinic out of fear that the incidents were increasing and that Tiller's safety was in jeopardy. Stolz, however, said police knew of no threats connected to the shooting."

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   I just found the right wing answer to shut down abortions, kill the doctors that do them. In fact murder and intimidation seems to be the tactic of choice these days.

  My fellow RW firebrands on this blog site, you are part of the problem. As the list of violent acts against those who oppose your militant RW viewpoint grows, how many more ways will you be able to deny that your words and actions do not have an effect: say for instance that , "liberals are destroying America," and that we are,  "Worse than terrorists"!

 I'm also interested in how the GOP is going to use the abortion wedge issue in the next election, since they do not have any ideas or clue on how to fix the economy or give Americans health care.

 So go and applaud your new victory and smile for god's rightoueness blesses and sanctions this killing because he must sanction the killing of  the liberal infedel.

"It is abhorrent that once again, individuals who oppose the right to choose have used violence to try to advance their extreme anti-choice agenda," said Vicki Saporta, president and CEO of the National Abortion Federation.

While many anti-abortion leaders swiftly issued statements condemning the shooting, their expressions of dismay were not echoed by Randall Terry, a veteran anti-abortion activist whose protests have often targeted Tiller.

"George Tiller was a mass murderer and we cannot stop saying that," Terry said. "He was an evil man — his hands were covered with blood."

URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

Murders

In the U.S., violence directed toward abortion providers has killed at least 9 people, including 5 doctors, 2 clinic employees, a security guard, and a clinic escort.^[4]

• March 10, 1993: Dr. David Gunn of Pensacola, Florida was fatally shot during a protest. He had been the subject of wanted-style posters distributed by Operation Rescue in the summer of the year before. Michael F. Griffin was found guilty of Dr. Gunn's murder and was sentenced to life in prison.
• June 29, 1994: Dr. John Britton and James Barrett, a clinic escort, were both shot to death outside of another facility in Pensacola. Rev. Paul Jennings Hill was charged with the killings, received a death sentence, and was executed September 3, 2003.
• December 30, 1994: Two receptionists, Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols, were killed in two clinic attacks in Brookline, Massachusetts. John Salvi, who prior to his arrest was distributing pamphlets from Human Life International,^[5] was arrested and confessed to the killings. He committed suicide in prison and guards found his body under his bed with a plastic garbage bag tied around his head. Salvi had also confessed to a non-lethal attack in Norfolk, Virginia days before the Brookline killings.
• January 29, 1998: Robert Sanderson, an off-duty police officer who worked as a security guard at an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, was killed when his workplace was bombed. Eric Robert Rudolph, who was also responsible for the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing, was charged with the crime and received two life sentences as a result.
• October 23, 1998: Dr. Barnett Slepian was shot to death at his home in Amherst, New York. His was the last in a series of similar shootings against providers in Canada and northern New York state which were all likely committed by James Kopp. Kopp was convicted of Dr. Slepian's murder after finally being apprehended in France in 2001.
• May 31, 2009: Dr. George Tiller was shot and killed as he served as an usher at his church in Wichita, Kansas.^[6]

A fifth doctor, George Patterson, was shot and killed in Mobile, Alabama on August 21, 1993, but it is uncertain whether his death was the direct result of his profession or rather a robbery.^[7]

Attempted murder, assault, and threats

According to statistics gathered by the National Abortion Federation (NAF), an organization of abortion providers, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, there have been 17 attempted murders, 383 death threats, 153 incidents of assault or battery, and 3 kidnappings committed against abortion providers.^[8] The attempted murders were:^[9][10][4]

• August 19, 1993: Dr. George Tiller was shot outside of an abortion facility in Wichita, Kansas. Shelley Shannon was charged with the crime and received an 31-year prison sentence.
• June 29, 1994: June Barret was shot in the same attack which claimed the lives of James Barrett, her husband, and Dr. John Britton.
• December 30, 1994: Five individuals were wounded in the same-day shootings which killed Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols.
• December 18, 1996: Dr. Calvin Jackson of New Orleans, Louisiana was stabbed 15 times, losing 4 pints of blood. Donald Cooper was charged with second-degree attempted murder and sentenced to 20 years.^[11]
• October 28, 1997: Dr. David Gandell of Rochester, New York was injured by flying glass when a shot was fired through the window of his home.^[12]
• January 29, 1998: Emily Lyons, a nurse, was severely injured in the bombing which also killed Robert Sanderson.

Anthrax threats

The first letters claiming to contain anthrax were mailed to U.S. clinics in October 1998, a few days after the Slepian shooting, and since then, there have been a total of 655 such bioterror threats made against abortion providers. None of the "anthrax" in these cases was real.^[13][9]

• November 2001: After the genuine 2001 anthrax attacks, Clayton Waagner mailed hoax letters containing a white powder to 554 clinics. Waagner was convicted of 51 charges relating to the anthrax scare on December 3, 2003.

Arson, bombing, and property crime

According to NAF, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, property crimes committed against abortion providers have included 41 bombings, 173 arsons, 91 attempted bombings or arsons, 619 bomb threats, 1630 incidents of trespassing, 1264 incidents of vandalism, and 100 attacks with butyric acid ("stink bombs").^[8] The first clinic arson occurred in Oregon in March 1976 and the first bombing occurred in February 1978 in Ohio.^[14] More recent incidents have included:^[4]

• December 25, 1984: An abortion clinic and two physicians' offices in Pensacola, Florida were bombed in the early morning of Christmas Day by a quartet of young people (Matt Goldsby, Jimmy Simmons, Kathy Simmons, Kaye Wiggins) who later called the bombings "a gift to Jesus on his birthday."^[15][16][17]
• October 1999: Martin Uphoff set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, causing US$100 worth of damage. He was later sentenced to 60 months in prison.^[18]
• May 28, 2000: An arson at a clinic in Concord, New Hampshire on resulted in damage estimated at US$20,000. The case remains unsolved.^[19]
• September 30, 2000: A Catholic priest drove his car into the Northern Illinois Health Clinic after learning that the FDA had approved the drug RU-486. He pulled out an ax before being shot at by a security guard.^[20]
• June 11, 2001: An unsolved bombing at a clinic in Tacoma, Washington destroyed a wall, resulting in US$6000 in damages. ^[18]
• July 4, 2005: A clinic Palm Beach, Florida was the target of an arson. The case remains open.^[18]
• December 12, 2005: Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe threw a Molotov cocktail at a clinic in Shreveport, Louisiana. The device missed the building and no damage was caused. In August 2006, Hughes was sentenced to six years in prison, and Dunahoe to one year. Hughes claimed the bomb was a “memorial lamp” for an abortion she had had there. ^[21]
• September 13, 2006 David McMenemy of Rochester Hills, Michigan crashed his car into the Edgerton Women's Care Center in Davenport, Iowa. He then doused the lobby in gasoline and then started a fire. McMenemy committed these acts in the belief that the center was performing abortions, however Edgerton is not an abortion clinc.^[22]
• April 25, 2007: A package left at a women's health clinic in Austin, Texas contained an explosive device capable of inflicting serious injury or death. A bomb squad detonated the device after evacuating the building. Paul Ross Evans (who had a criminal record for armed robbery and theft) was found guilty of the crime. ^[23]
• May 9, 2007: An unidentified person deliberately set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Virginia Beach, Virginia.^[24]
• December 6, 2007: Chad Altman and Sergio Baca were arrested for the arson of Dr. Curtis Boyd's clinic in Albuquerque. Altman’s girlfriend had scheduled an appointment for an abortion at the clinic. ^[25]
• January 22, 2009 Matthew L. Derosia, 32, who was reported to have had a history of mental illness ^[26]rammed a SUV into the front entrance of a Planned Parenthood clinic in St. Paul, Minnesota.^[27]

Organizations calling for open violent actions against legal Abortions:

URL:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_God_(USA)

Army of God (AOG) is an extremist anti-abortion organization that sanctions the use of force to combat abortion in the United States. HBO produced a documentary on the Army Of God entitled Soldiers In The Army Of God.^[1] Clayton Waagner's fake anthrax letters have resulted in their being mentioned among terrorist organizations at the FBI.^[2]

AOG supports the Second Defensive Action Statement, as produced by the Defenders of the Defenders of Life, which reads:^[3]

• We the undersigned, declare the justice of taking all Godly action necessary, including the use of force, to defend innocent human life (born and unborn). We proclaim that whatever force is legitimate to defend the life of a born child is legitimate to defend the life of an unborn child.
• We declare and affirm that if in fact Paul Hill did kill or wound abortionist John Britton, and accomplices James Barrett and Mrs. Barrett, his actions are morally justified if they were necessary for the purpose of defending innocent human life. Under these conditions, Paul Hill should be acquitted of all charges against him.

The American Coalition of Life Activists (ACLA) was a pro-life activist group that was the subject of controversy for its series of Wanted-style posters.

During a 1995 meeting, the group unveiled a "wanted" poster that listed the names and addresses of a "Deadly Dozen" abortion providers. The poster accused them of "crimes against humanity" and offered a $5,000 reward for the "arrest, conviction and revocation of license to practice medicine" of these physicians. The poster was published in Life Advocate magazine. A second poster targeted a specific person, Dr. Robert Crist, offered a reward for persuading him "to turn from his child killing," and included his name, address, and photo.

In 1996 it revealed its "Nuremberg Files" which included dossiers on abortion providers, politicians, judges, clinic employees and other abortion rights supporters. The ACLA claimed that these dossiers could be used for trials for "crimes against humanity" when the nation's laws changed to prohibit abortion. Neal Horsley, an activist, published the information on his website. His website greyed the names of those injured and crossed out the names of those killed by anti-abortion activists.

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     Here we have a clear and present danger of continued domestic terrorism by Americans against other Americans who think that they are justified by God and are also anti-government as well.

   Scary Stuff.

(6/2/2009 EDIT: URL: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/specials/interactives/_national/clinic_violence/index.html?SITE=YAHOO&SECTION=HOME

This is a CNN interactive on the the History, its pretty good for the all knowing liberal media)

URL: http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200990601163

URL: http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2009906020543

 “The Republican Party of Marathon County has stripped its spokesman of his title less than three months after he wrote a column critical of conservative talk radio star Rush Limbaugh.”

“"They felt I was too moderate in what I was speaking and printing," he said.

“This is just part of what you're seeing nationwide," he said. "(Party members) know that I don't agree with Rush Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh is hurting us more than helping us."

“Kevin Stevenson said he believes his March guest column in the Wausau Daily Herald criticizing Limbaugh turned local party members against him.

"They felt I was too moderate in what I was speaking and printing," he said.

 “He was sharing a moderate view in his columns, which I think is terrific,” Hermening said. "If the leadership had wanted a more moderate position, we would have let him (continue)."

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 So it seems the grass roots of the Republican Party want to purge moderates as well.

  The right wing extremsits on the Blog site would agree with this move.

 Let the purge continue and the conservative republicans and let them wonder off into the wilderness.

  Just answer me this question; How will an extreme anti-government republican party get swing and moderate voters other than preying like parasites on the failure of democrats?

I was surprised when Amy and Jim our resident LLC Blog bullies didn't use this talking point:

Republicain talking Point El Rushbo: Calling Sotomayor a "racist" and a "hack" on his radio show Tuesday, Limbaugh took particular issue with a 2001 speech at Berkeley during which she stated a "wise Latina woman with the richness of her experience would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."

http://www.propeller.com/story/2009/05/27/rush-limbaugh-slams-judge-sotomayor-39racist39-and-a-39hack39/

Here's the typical right wing liberal activist judge attack but at least they have evidence (twisted by bias of course) to back up their argument:

From JCN Counsel Wendy E. Long:

Judge Sotomayor is a liberal judicial activist of the first order who thinks her own personal political agenda is more important that the law as written.  She thinks that judges should dictate policy, and that one's sex, race, and ethnicity ought to affect the decisions one renders from the bench.

She reads racial preferences and quotas into the Constitution, even to the point of dishonoring those who preserve our public safety.  On September 11, America saw firsthand the vital role of America's firefighters in protecting our citizens.  They put their lives on the line for her and the other citizens of New York and the nation.  But Judge Sotomayor would sacrifice their claims to fair treatment in employment promotions to racial preferences and quotas.  The Supreme Court is now reviewing that decision.

She has an extremely high rate of her decisions being reversed, indicating that she is far more of a liberal activist than even the current liberal activist Supreme Court.

They go further to explain:

If JCN's web ad gives us any window into what other attack-line Sotomayor's opponents might take, we can expect critics to focus on Sotomayor's rejection of Ricci v. Destefano, a case brought by white firefighters claiming racial discrimination when they were denied promotion because a qualification test yielded no black candidates eligible for promotion. The case is now being heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.

http://politics.theatlantic.com/2009/05/its_sotomayor.php

http://politics.theatlantic.com/2009/05/judicial_confirmation_network_sotomayor_is_a_discriminatory_activist.php

http://mediamatters.org/research/200905260045

I know it is wickipedia, but its a good place to actually see what she has done and not throught media mouthpieces: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor

Here 's some of the full speech she made in 2001 the bold was used in the right wing talking points:

Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences, a possibility I abhor less or discount less than my colleague Judge Cedarbaum, our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging. Justice O’Connor has often been cited as saying that a wise old man and wise old woman will reach the same conclusion in deciding cases. I am not so sure Justice O’Connor is the author of that line since Professor Resnik attributes that line to Supreme Court Justice Coyle. I am also not so sure that I agree with the statement. First, as Professor Martha Minnow has noted, there can never be a universal definition of wise. Second, I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.

Let us not forget that wise men like Oliver Wendell Holmes and Justice Cardozo voted on cases which upheld both sex and race discrimination in our society. Until 1972, no Supreme Court case ever upheld the claim of a woman in a gender discrimination case. I, like Professor Carter, believe that we should not be so myopic as to believe that others of different experiences or backgrounds are incapable of understanding the values and needs of people from a different group. Many are so capable. As Judge Cedarbaum pointed out to me, nine white men on the Supreme Court in the past have done so on many occasions and on many issues including Brown.

However, to understand takes time and effort, something that not all people are willing to give. For others, their experiences limit their ability to understand the experiences of others. Other simply do not care. Hence, one must accept the proposition that a difference there will be by the presence of women and people of color on the bench. Personal experiences affect the facts that judges choose to see. My hope is that I will take the good from my experiences and extrapolate them further into areas with which I am unfamiliar. I simply do not know exactly what that difference will be in my judging. But I accept there will be some based on my gender and my Latina heritage.

I also hope that by raising the question today of what difference having more Latinos and Latinas on the bench will make will start your own evaluation. For people of color and women lawyers, what does and should being an ethnic minority mean in your lawyering? For men lawyers, what areas in your experiences and attitudes do you need to work on to make you capable of reaching those great moments of enlightenment which other men in different circumstances have been able to reach. For all of us, how do change the facts that in every task force study of gender and race bias in the courts, women and people of color, lawyers and judges alike, report in significantly higher percentages than white men that their gender and race has shaped their careers, from hiring, retention to promotion and that a statistically significant number of women and minority lawyers and judges, both alike, have experienced bias in the courtroom?

Each day on the bench I learn something new about the judicial process and about being a professional Latina woman in a world that sometimes looks at me with suspicion. I am reminded each day that I render decisions that affect people concretely and that I owe them constant and complete vigilance in checking my assumptions, presumptions and perspectives and ensuring that to the extent that my limited abilities and capabilities permit me, that I reevaluate them and change as circumstances and cases before me requires. I can and do aspire to be greater than the sum total of my experiences but I accept my limitations. I willingly accept that we who judge must not deny the differences resulting from experience and heritage but attempt, as the Supreme Court suggests, continuously to judge when those opinions, sympathies and prejudices are appropriate.

http://www.discourse.net/archives/2009/05/more_on_sotomayor.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/us/politics/15judge.text.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

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Can someone explain to me why "life experience" has to be white male centered in order for someone to be a good SCOTUS judge? That "white male/female only life experience" implied by Newt and Rush in iteself is racist!

Can someone explain to me how RUSH and Newt would even begin to fathom how it was/is growing up in the USA as a minority women, growing up in a male centered latino culture?

url: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090612/ts_alt_afp/usshootingcrimeholocaust_20090612214407

Erik von Brunn had blunt words for racists and anti-semites who idolize his father's actions.

"To physically force your beliefs onto others with violence is not brave, but bullying. Doing so only serves to prove how weak those beliefs are. It is simply desperation, reminiscent of a temper tantrum when a child cannot get his way."

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    I hope his fathers murder at the Holocaust Museum is the last of the right wing violence we will see for a long time.

Mark Sanford (R) Governor South Carolina, who just today revealed why he skipped town:

CNN) -- South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, just back from a secret trip to Argentina unknown to his staff or his wife, admitted Wednesday he has carried on an extramarital affair.........

.......However, the Republican leader in the South Carolina Senate questioned Sanford's abdication of responsibility for leaving without notice last week.

"I'm deeply disturbed that no one knew where Gov. Sanford was over the last five days," state Sen. Harvey Peeler said in a statement.

"We cannot let the governor's personal life overshadow his public responsibility, or in this case, his negligence of gubernatorial authority."

South Carolina Republican Party Chairman Karen Floyd pledged "every effort" to ensure that the party maintains the TRUST of South Carolina's voters.

Now the bitter sweet irony and hypocrisy:

URL: http://www.c-span.org/newsmakers/sandford.htm

"And I voted to impeach, because I think that, you know, moral legitimacy is one of the precursors to a legitimate legitimacy. But that’s a whole other debate that’s long past."

  Mark Sanford should be impeached since he's a world class hypocrite.

And the super moral conservative raises their hands in the air with froth on the sides of their mouth and wonders why their "Leaders" are torn apart in the media for there "I am more holy and righteous than you attitude because I am a conservative". 

  But the list is long of "Family Value" conservatives committing adultery and other acts of human sexuality seen as sins by their Christian doctrines.

I’m not an atheist nor am I Christian, and in this blog I am not going to address if god is real or not, let’s just assume that the deity exists and is all powerful, all knowing, and omnipotent.

I’ve been pondering the Christian Concept of Free Will endowed by God:

 Question: a) When another person uses their free will to take away another persons free will, isn’t the act of taking this “endowed free will” away contradictory to the entire concept.

                   b) Rephrased - If you have your freedom stolen by another against your consent why is the person who uses their free will allowed to do this in the first place, while your free will is taken away.

 This concept is simply hard to reconcile with the established Christian concept of a “god of love” or simply “justice” and simply asking Jesus for forgiveness is a cop out to taking responsibility for your actions on the death bed for fear of hell.

   If god is real and endowed us with the free will to screw each other over, from cheating on your spouse to genocide, I can only conclude that the “god” in the Christian concept is neither a “god of love or justice”, because this “free will” is not doled out equally among human beings and is allowed to be stolen through many different means from murder, theft, and infidelity.

So: I come away with a feeling of ethereal apathy or being part of a grand social experiment. In the mortal realm I conclude that the established concept is from human beings to control each other and a cheap excuse to dismiss the terrible things we do to each other while we spend our short lives on this planet.

This is the last political blog I am going to do for a little while, but please feel free to discuss politics and get off topic on my blog anytime. It’s more interesting that way.

Part 1:

The “term’s of use agreement” was authored by Erin Mellone after Jim Hayett let a poster physically intimidate me. This is when Bloggers still had power over moderation. Without me the terms of use never would have been written; Erin agreed that this sort of language, regardless of true intent, was not acceptable on a public Blog site.

To keep the conversation enjoyable and interesting for all of our readers, however, we ask that you abide by some simple, common sense rules.

Here's the short version: 

·                       Don't use profanities or obscenities. (Talk about a complete lying b@st*rd!) Jim H

·                       Don't post personal attacks and insults; threats; ethnic, racial, religious or sexual slurs; or otherwise engage in hateful conversation. (Our Blog titles enough of a example)

·                       Don't stray from the topic of the blog or submit pointless comments.

·                       DON'T SHOUT BY USING ALL UPPERCASE LETTERS.

·                       Don't use this space for press releases or commercial purposes.

·                       Don't submit knowingly false or libelous comments. (All 3 examples about Matt, which the pushed even after Matt was cleared)

·                       Don't pretend to be somebody else, or maintain more than one screen name, or use a screen name that might be considered objectionable or insulting.

·                       Don't knowingly give out any personal information about other individuals, including participants of these blogs.

             Don't post copyrighted or trademarked content.

Also, take what you find among the comments with a grain of salt. Some people in online communities derive satisfaction from trying to upset others. Ignore them. We'll monitor reader comments as best we can, but we do not necessarily read every word submitted by users of these blogs. If you see comments that don't abide by our discussion guidelines, please let us know by clicking the "report abuse" link on the blog or e-mailing our online staff. By participating in our blogs, you agree to abide by the terms of this agreement. We also reserve the right to change this agreement at any time.

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Part 2:

   Last year in the fall my brother Matt( who was just banned from LLC blogs for using the word “m@sterb*tion” and attacking Jim Hyatt back for his personal insults), told me he started blogging at LLC blogs and asked me if I wanted to. I said no, but I decided to check it out as a lurker, and then I became a poster. I called myself “LiberalHammer”, a handle that can be taken either way. I revealed myself later in 2008, but the Jim and Amy couldn’t get over that I wasn’t Matt.

   I couldn’t believe the fire branding and hatred from the right-wingers on the blog site against liberals, going as far as to label all “liberals’ as anti-Americans and traitors for even disagreeing with them or criticizing Bush or our countries actions. The right wingers treated the blogs like a toilet, and trashed any sort of professionalism or respect for the blogs and the gift that LLC gave them to express their opinions.

I kept on asking why LLC let them get away with this.

 So I started posting. Here’s a few examples of how I was treated: 

In my first post Jim insulted my intelligence for answering Amy’s questions, Amy accused me of white guilt because I lived in Milwaukee, Amy saying that via liberalism I am destroying this country, I sincerely bared my feelings to Amy about abortion and all she did was use it to attack me later, etc…….and it only get’s worse from there. Both pushing lies about Matt that he was Jmark and I, Matt’s name was hacked, Matt left and they said he was banned but he was not, in all three of these instances my brother was cleared by Erin Mellone the old administrator of the site. In all three instances Jim an Amy kept pushing regardless of this.  Nothing was done about it by LLC till the last string of false accusations about Matt leaving. In all but the last instance, were I got sick and tired of this treatment, I pushed back by personally attacking Jim and Amy.

     Erin banned all of us, thank god, finally something was done, we (the liberals) only had to sink down to their level to do it and reveal how these 2 abuse the rules.

Mind you LLC is owned by JS Corporation, the one’s who canned Jessica Mcbride on conservative radio AM 620 for racist comments.   

 Surly, I thought after Erin banned Jim, Me, Amy, and Matt for one week for our personal blog war, that Jim and Amy might have gotten the message, but I was so wrong. It didn’t take them long to figure out they can get away with everything and the “terms of use” agreement” does not apply to them. I only ask readers to review their last few blogs and count the insults to posters and personal attacks against the “terms of use”.

 So with Jim latest blogs where I see him break a few terms of use; I inquired to Scott Peterson the Editor and Chief and asked him some straightforward questions regarding the rules Jim had broke. My correspondence has not been changed, I paraphrased Scott’s responses:

From: Jacob Pickard [mailto:pickardjacob@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 2:48 PM
To: Peterson, Scott
Subject: re: Innapropriate Language from "Fighting Liberal Lies"

Dear Scott Peterson,

  I want to voice a complaint about Jim Hyatt and his recent Blog :

"Watch these videos, but make sure you watch the video where Obama is on the Senate floor in 2007 trying every which way to make sure we lose in Iraq. Then, watch the video from 6/30/2009 wger Obama says he was always for victory in Iraq. Talk about a complete lying bastard! I would be embarrassed to admit I voted for this guy.

  I think this language is innapropriate for a public blog post. Also he is using insults on other's intelligence again like he did in the past.

  Both of these things break the Blog rules set up by Erin Mellone.

  Please tell him to quite these practices so the Blogs and the posts stay away from personal attacks.

  thanks, Jake Pickard

From: "Peterson, Scott" <speterson@jcpgroup.com>
To: Jacob Pickard <pickardjacob@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 3:29:55 PM
Subject: RE: Innapropriate Language from "Fighting Liberal Lies"

 Basically Scott says you can call the president anything. He does not see where using the word “B@st#rd breaks the rules and personal attacks were against other bloggers.

From: Jacob Pickard [mailto:pickardjacob@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:06 PM
To: Peterson, Scott
Subject: Re: Innapropriate Language from "Fighting Liberal Lies"

Scott,

  So you will allow the word "bastard" and other language (words) that is considered offensive to a group. I'm not talking about opinion's.

  Please Clarify this for me.

  Thank you,  Jake

From: "Peterson, Scott" <speterson@jcpgroup.com>
To: Jacob Pickard <pickardjacob@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 4:06:04 PM
Subject: RE: Innapropriate Language from "Fighting Liberal Lies"

He says it depends on the context. But with Obama the president the level of tolerance should be elevated.

From: Jacob Pickard [mailto:pickardjacob@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:13 PM
To: Peterson, Scott
Subject: Re: Innapropriate Language from "Fighting Liberal Lies"

Scott,

Okay so if it's in relation or an attack on a poster or blogger then this language can be considered against the guidlines?

Jake

From: "Peterson, Scott" <speterson@jcpgroup.com>
To: Jacob Pickard <pickardjacob@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 4:41:20 PM
Subject: RE: Innapropriate Language from "Fighting Liberal Lies"

He says I should not use this language against bloggers.

From: Jacob Pickard [mailto:pickardjacob@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 5:32 PM
To: Peterson, Scott
Subject: Re: Innapropriate Language from "Fighting Liberal Lies"

Scott,

  I am not saying I am going to use this type of language it is stifling and unethical, but if a blogger or poster uses this type of language is it against the guidlines?

  This is all I am asking.

  Thanks, Jake

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: "Peterson, Scott" <speterson@jcpgroup.com>
To: Jacob Pickard <pickardjacob@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 5:32:06 PM
Subject: RE: Innapropriate Language from "Fighting Liberal Lies"

He says I will know what is right. I can only control myself

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So while Jim and Amy get to break these rules without repercussion, Matt for using the word “m@sterb*ti*n” and counterattacking Jim is banned from Blogging. Jim and Amy also get to insult and demean other posters as well without repercussion. Not only that but LLC a part of JS Corporation, is allowing both of them to do this! Not only is this not fair to other bloggers on the site, to hold these two at a different standard, but it is also biased because of this.

 Why is LLC so willing to cow-tau to them, when they have conservatives that do Blog on LLC (Al for one and Jacob) who do respect their readers and at least treat people they disagree with like human beings.  

 Are LLC’s standards set so low for right wing opinion that they will do whatever it takes to get opinions from people who not only blog without any sort of professionalism, respect for other’s POV’s, political ethics, or a moral compass, and are more than willing to use their blogs as platforms to trash other bloggers, trash posters, bullying, allowing physical intimidation, and basically treat the blog site like a piece of trash!

            Is LLC trying so hard not to look like the Liberal Media Boogie man that they deliberately cow-tau to Jim and Amy to create the swill they call blogs while they bully others to either leave blogging like sally Pla, or insult and pound posters who just came for a discussion that don’t agree with them.

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 So here are the takeaways about the Blogs we have no power over. It all makes sense now why LLC allows this un-professionalism that sullies there Blog-site:

1)      LLC has a different set of rules for Jim and Amy and they are not held to the same “Terms of Use” agreement that the rest of the bloggers are held too.

2)      Jim and Amy can do whatever they want without repercussion.

3)      LLC is conservatively biased because of their un-willingness to hold them to the same standards as the rest of us.

Here are the things we have power over if you are sick of their bullying:

1)      Ignore Jim and Amy’s blog’s, do not post on them what-so-ever, they do not respect you or your opinions. Ignore their flame-bait because that is all it is. This might force them to leave their nest, ignore them when they do. They crave the attention, no matter who it is from. I know it can be fun, but you can get the same results from watching Glen Beck or simply yelling at a brick wall.

2)      Post on other conservative blogs, use the carrot and reward the conservative bloggers who treat you with respect, but treat them with respect also, it is a two way street.

3)      Start your own blog on LLC or some other site and post the link when you reply.

Source Material from the Vancouver Sun

URL: http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Conservative+Free+Republic+blog+free+speech+flap+after+racial+slurs+directed+Obama+children/1782375/story.html

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Free Republic posters commenting on Malia Obama because she wore a peace sign t-shirt:

"They make me sick .... The whole family... mammy, pappy, the free loadin' mammy-in-law, the misguided chillin', and especially 'lil cuz... This is not the America I want representin' my peeps."

"A typical street whore."

"A bunch of ghetto thugs."

 "Ghetto street trash."

"Wonder when she will get her first abortion."

"To entertain her daughter, Michelle Obama loves to make monkey sounds."

"Could you imagine what world leaders must be thinking seeing this kind of street trash and that we paid for this kind of street ghetto trash to go over there?

"This disgusting display makes me more and more eager for the revolution," while another read, "I never actually wnated [sic] to be a pistol before but..."

"The writer has a point," wrote site owner Jim Thompson sarcastically. "We should steer clear of Obama's children. They can't help it if their old man is an American-hating Marxist pig."

"I agree Jim," wrote commenter, by the nickname NoobRep. "The kids didn't pick their commie pinko pansy of a father. Nor did they choose to be put into the spotlight. But Obama/Soetoro is fair game and so is his witch of a wife."

"Poor kids. I hope they're not 'punished with a baby'," wrote another. "Hopefully they won't deal cocaine like the Kenyan."

"DIRTBAGS! All of them. Our [White House] is now a joke to the rest of the world. We have no respect and this is not going to turn out well, mark my words. We will be hit, and much worse than last time. We are now seen as weak and vulnerable. Ghetto and Chicago thugs have taken over."

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I don’t think I need to comment on the posts other than say they make me sick. Absolutely, Disgusting! Reprehensible! Deplorable!

Conservative online media has reached a new low.

(Edit: 12:25am 7/12/09 title change)

This is at the philisophical core of healthcare reform:

Question: Do you think that Healthcare in a 1^st World Nation is a Right for every citizen of this country or Privilege dependent on the person?

  If  healthcare is a privilege, should the health and life of the person who goes through insurance be more important than the profit margin of the insurance company? 

   If you answer please tell me why?

URL: http://www.healthpaconline.net/health-care-statistics-in-the-united-states.htm

-          In 2006, the percentage of Americans without health insurance was 15.8%, or approximately 47 million uninsured people. Source: US Census Bureau.

-          The primary reason given for lack of health insurance coverage in 2005 was cost (more than 50%), lost job or a change in employment (24%), Medicaid benefits stopped (10%), ineligibility for family insurance coverage due to age or leaving school (8%). Source: National Center for Health Statistics

-          More than 40 million adults stated that they needed but did not receive one or more of these health services (medical care, prescription medicines, mental health care, dental care, or eyeglasses) in 2005 because they could not afford it. Source: National Center for Health Statistics

-          Medicare operates with 3% overhead, non-profit insurance 16% overhead, and private (for-profit) insurance 26% overhead. Source: Journal of American Medicine 2007

-          In 2005, personal health care expenditures were paid by private health insurance 36%, federal government 35%, state and local governments 11% , and out-of-pocket payments 15%. Source: National Center for Health Statistics

-          75% of all health care dollars are spent on patients with one or more chronic conditions, many of which can be prevented, including diabetes, obesity, heart disease, lung disease, high blood pressure, and cancer. Source: Health Affairs

-          From 2000 to 2006, overall inflation has increased 3.5%, wages have increased 3.8%, and health care premiums have increased 87%. Source: Kaiser Family Foundation

-          The average family health insurance premium, provided through an employer health benefit program, was $11,480 in 2006. Employees paid an average of $2,973 towards the premium amount. Source: Kaiser Family Foundation

-          Approximately 30,000 infants die in the United States each year. The infant mortality rate, which is the risk of death during the first year of life, is related to the underlying health of the mother, public health practices, socioeconomic conditions, and availability and use of appropriate health care for infants and pregnant women. Sources: CDC and National Center for Health Statistics

-          About half of the bankruptcy filings in the United States are due to medical expenses. Source: Health Affairs Journal 2005

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This April my wife slipped down are stairs and she fractured her left ankle. She is finally starting to get some use again, but it is slow and painful. Basically when all is said and done the cost of her injury is in the low 5 digit range, while each physical therapy session is $265, each time.

 Luckily through my work I am able to pay for a very good healthcare plan and our network has access to good doctors, nurses, and facilities.

   Then I ask myself, what if we didn’t have this insurance? What if we had my wife’s plan from her work (still the same company, but the benefits are no were near the benefits I can get for us), or even worse what if we had no insurance at all?!? Eat or buy pain medication? Pay Bills or pay medical expenses? Etc…….

 Why do we, as Americans, allow multi-billion dollar insurance companies view us as $ signs?  Why is it acceptable in our society that my life is equal to this $?

 I can’t imagine a person who is working at a job, for an employer, who either can’t afford to or I think in most cases the employer is to greedy and is unwilling to provide health benefits to their workers, the people, who make them their money and profits.

        Why is the, profit of Private Insurance companies, companies that don’t even offer affordable healthcare to the 47 million un-insured American’s, more important than the life or well being of 1 American?

   Do you realize that we give Insurance companies “the right” to deny us coverage and to drop us from their plans, if it infringes upon their profit? This is twisted and disgusting, “we pay them money” should they not be accountable to the consumer. In any other industry that company would collapse because the consumer would switch to a provider that did not do this.

 No, the Private Insurance run Healthcare system is the one to blame for the 47 million Americans who can’t afford their product!

   It’s a failure, the phantom idea that is “free market economics”, because if this was true, Private health Insurance would have changed for the better long ago, but their strangle hold on politicians keeps the game in their favor!

Even if you hate government intervention, the fact is that Private health Insurance is a failure not only is it a failure in the “free market economics” template since consumers who can afford it and those who can’t have no or very limited choices, but your tax dollars pay for the 47 million who don’t get preventative care and go to Emergency rooms and use government programs to pay their doctors and facilities at a cost even more than that of what pre-care would be.

 Choice means nothing if no affordable options exist.

 Our healthcare system, which is controlled by Private insurance companies has a $ amount attached to your account number, they weigh this against their bottom line and ability to make a profit.

 How much do you think your life is worth?

" . . . Our livelihood depends on health-system reform that achieves the right balance between what government can do and what private plans do best,"- David Klein Excellus BlueCross BlueShield  David Klein, CEO made$2.73 million last year

URL:  http://www.syracuse.com/business/index.ssf?/base/business-15/1247821020179770.xml&coll=1

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Honestly, how could anyone even believe this guy.  He really means that ability to make millions on the backs of his employee’s and denying care to people who need it so he can keep his stock options up.

After what happened in the financial industry, exposing the greed and corruption of the CEO’s & Top Tier Executives those anti-American’s more than willing to bet the health of our entire’s country economy for a few more billions.

   How am I supposed to believe that the same type of CEO’s and Executives who run Private Insurance Companies swimming in the billions of our hard earned money, having the ability to deny care and drop our coverage at any time,  really have MY,  YOUR, best health interest in mind!

 They don’t, your life means nothing to them. Those millions come from the denial of care of Americans.

 The healthcare industry is spending 1.5 million a day, 1.3 billion last quarter, to defeat a public option, because they CAN NOT compete with the government over the 47 million Americans that can’t afford their services, the 47 million Americans that don’t even have the option to afford their services because they have to make a choice between food and housing vs. a healthcare plan that costs between 700-1,200 a month.

 So no, I have no reason to support, trust, nor believe the insurance CEO’s and Executives with their Republican and Democratic whores in congress to keep the status quo that makes them millions each year.

They had their chance, a choice to change how they since 1993 with Clinton and Bush.

People or Profit. 

Guess who won?

They failed.

This spot is for posters. Please feel free to have free reign and talk about anything you want. This blog post is free  to you,  LLC blog rules do not matter on this Blog. The subject is what you want to make it! Have fun.

I'll start.

Healthcare: Observations, Fables, etc….

A fable:

Lets get the government out of the police security and fire business!

I mean these 2 services could be privatized on a pay as you go basis, for instance, your house is on fire and Jeffies Fire Service comes and you pay them to put out the fire. No government needed at all. Although, you’ll have to pay before they put your house out.

Can’t afford it! Well that won’t be a problem because when you get the mortage for your property, the bank will force you to choose who your Private Fire Service provider is.

See you have lot’s of choice. I’m sure you can choose from a few plans, saving pets costs extra by the way.

Ironies:

Is a person on Medicare a hypocrite when they protest a public option for the other 47 million without insurance?

Customer service:

Why is it that private insurance companies can drop your coverage at any moment and deny you care? In any other industry in our market based economy, these corporations would be out of business.

Iraq:

The bumbling and incompetence by Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld in the first 2 years in Iraq proves that government can’t do anything right.

Conservatives / Rightwingers – Please send me a link to a real grass roots movement anti-public option for the 47 million non-elderly people in this country?

Republican Party and Libertarians:

 I so wish that more libertarians would take over the republican party, although I disagree with your over-all view of government and the problems the ideology poses in reality (not a jab, just how I think), you guys still have a lot of good idea’s (making government leaner and work better if we have to have it), and seem more grounded in reality. Take over now is your chance, anti-government republicans have an ethical weakness that you guys don’t.

Stinky Puppies:

Why do dog farts smell so bad? We re-named our dog Thor to Harry Pooter MaGoo the other day.

Democratic Party:

  Man, I love you guys & gals, even with a majority, you still can not agree on anything.

Republicans:

What is the next paranoid conspiracy theory?

Centrists:

No one can be a centrist. They can moderate their ideology, but being a centrist is impossible.

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(ChattahBox)—Fox News today, provided a helpful service to its Conservative right-wing viewers interested in disrupting a Democratic lawmaker’s town hall event, by offering dates and times of upcoming town halls all conveniently organized on an Excel spreadsheet no less.

According to Fox News’ James Rosen, Fox News didn’t have the town hall schedule for Republican lawmakers.
The Fox News host referred to “town hall battles” and Rosen spoke of the “gladiatorial” nature of the Democratic town halls that have been disrupted by angry mobs spurred on by Conservative Astroturf organizations, backed by insurance interests opposed to health care reform.

Many of the Democratic town halls have been overrun with right-wing disruptors that have turned violent. And yet, Rosen announced the town hall schedules of Democratic lawmakers, but not of Republican lawmakers.

Media Matters notes that Fox News’ excuse of “not having” the Republican schedule falls flat, when it took all of five seconds on Google for Media Matters to find one.

http://chattahbox.com/entertainment/2009/08/07/fox-news...

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Question: Why would a fair and balanced non-biased news source deliberatly leave out the Townhall information of Republicans during the healthcare debate?