Global Humbug VI.1
In my post of April 7, 2010, "Global Humbug VI-Finis," I said it was my last word on the subject. In retrospect, that was an unwise commitment. The subject continues like "The Immortals" with no sign of abatement, so to assert closure is unrealistic. However, I have said in the seven "Humbug" posts much of what I have to say of substance on the subject insofar as the science is concerned. But every once in awhile something pops up that is irresistible. This is one of those instances.
An oft-cited "evidence" of global warming and its dire consequences is the melting of the Greenland and other glaciers and the resulting rise in sea levels. In 2007, the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) warningly predicted that the seas would rise 7 to 23 inches by 2100, inundating many coastal areas and islands, due to glacial melting in Greenland and parts of Antarctica. This was based on satellite measurements of the heights of those glacial areas, which were decreasing.
I have long maintained that the so-called "science" of global warming is biased and reflects a movement towards world governance, led by the U.N. After all, if this dire world-wide threat is to be stopped, the entire world must work and sacrifice together under central (read U.N.) control, although said sacrifice seems to be focused mainly on the U.S. and other "wealthy" nations like China and India. (Our share is estimated at $143 billion by U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon.) I did not anticipate the blatant fraudulent activity of major climate research facilities, called "Climategate", although I was not surprised.
The general sloppiness of much of climate research was graphically dramatized by the recent (September) announcement in the journal Nature Geoscience that previous estimates of glacial ice loss should be reduced by at least half. Those original estimates failed to account for a known phenomenon called glacial isostatic adjustment.
Large areas of the Northern Hemisphere were compressed under the tremendous weight of the great Ice Age glaciers that reached thicknesses of one mile. When the Ice Age ended and the glaciers melted, the Earth's crust began to rebound. That rebounding is still occurring. As the crust under North America rises, it pulls down other areas, including Greenland. (They were pushed up during the Ice Age.) Thus, the measured drop in the height of the glaciers is at least partially accounted for by this subsidence phenomenon. (I've always acknowledged that some long-term warming is occurring, just that it's much less than predicted and accounted for by natural cycles instead of "carbon footprints.")
Thus, the scary prediction of widespread coastal inundation is ... well ... all wet.
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29 Comments
yert49 - Oct 02, 2010 6:43 PM
aneuhauser - Oct 03, 2010 12:23 AM
Thanks for the comment.
aneuhauser - Oct 03, 2010 12:24 AM
yert49 - Oct 03, 2010 3:16 PM
Carl Hicks - Oct 03, 2010 5:41 PM
aneuhauser - Oct 04, 2010 12:51 AM
Carl: No. Some byproducts of gasoline combustion are pollutants, as is the case with all combustion. Gasoline itself is as benign as wood log.
FJL: My point was that the science behind global warming alarmism is sloppy if not deliberately misleading. Glacial isostatic adjustment is a known phenomenon that was completely ignored by the global warming idiots at the IPCC, probably to exaggerate the situation.
I also acknowledged that there has been slight overall warming over the last century, if you assume that the still-unexplained temperature decrease over the last 10 years or so is an anomaly. Glaciers have increased and decreased for eons. The question is what's causing it. I say it's natural.
You still apparently can't read.
Carl Hicks - Oct 04, 2010 2:12 PM
is mighty goofy and overly simplistic. Had you said unrefined crude You may have a point but gasoline has been refined by man and so it has caused pollution simply due to the byproducts created during refinement. If it is inert a a log do you simply dump any used gasoline into your yard or nearby body of water without damaging that environment? I guess you could equate the two by looking at this comparison very simple mindedly and say both produce hydrocarbons when burnt, but combustion of wood produces simple carbons not the complex carbons that man made aditives in the gasoline will produce.Not to mention the pollutants added to our atmosphere when gasoline simply evaporates.
aneuhauser - Oct 04, 2010 5:18 PM
I guess everything that involves some sort of processing pollutes. Recycling paper and plastic use huge amounts of energy, as does ethanol production (see my post "Moonshine Madness"--July 12, 2008). To call gasoline per se a pollutant is oversimplification. Its combustion byproducts can be classified as pollutants, as is the case with practically anything that burns including wood. You have a point regarding evaporation. Guess you better keep that gas can cover on.
Wood-burning byproducts include carbon dioxide (a pollutant and, according to you anthropogenic global warmers, the cause of it all) and nasty old aerosol particulates (cough! cough!). According to that impeccable source of information, Wikipedia, the effects of inhaling particulate matter that have been widely studied in humans and animals now include asthma, lung cancer, cardiovascular issues, and premature death. I reject "goofy".
Carl Hicks - Oct 04, 2010 6:11 PM
"I guess everything that involves some sort of processing pollutes."
I do hope this is not a new revelation for you. The processing of gasoline produced pollutants, the growing of the tree did not.
"To call gasoline per se a pollutant is oversimplification."
No sorry calling it benign is.....
yert49 - Oct 04, 2010 6:42 PM
Carl Hicks - Oct 04, 2010 9:52 PM
Take the gulf oil spill, natures micorobes did quite well on the oil that wasn't contaminated with man made dispursants and not so well with the oil that had man made chemicals oil companies pumped into it.
EVERYTHING we do to our environment impacts it in some way, some in a positive manner but most are quite negative. You would have to be a complete fool to believe that nothing we do matters because momma nature or god will step in and correct it for us.
If you believe a log and gasoline have the same environmental impact go toss a log into your backyard and then dump a few gallons of gas in another area and watch what happens.
aneuhauser - Oct 05, 2010 1:04 AM
Nature does pollute and not everything gets fixed. In 1815 there was a series of three volcanic eruptions which spewed a huge amount of fine ash into the atmosphere, blocking solar radiation for over a year so that in 1816 there was no summer, resulting in widespread crop failures and starvation, and deaths by freezing. Mount Tambora in Indonesia was the last and worst eruption, killing 10,000 outright, many from toxic gases, and 82,000 more by disease and starvation. Yes, the ash finally fell to earth, the gases dissipated and the sun again shone brightly, but much of the damage and certainly the loss of life were permanent.
Nature, if left alone, has an amazing capacity to fix nearly everything we do. Trees and vegetation absorb our carbon dioxide. Consumed water eventually recycles into rain--cleaned by evaporative distillation--and returns to bodies of water. Bacteria, nature's great cleaners, clean up just about any waste. The airfields we built during World War II in the South Pacific have nearly all been reclaimed by the jungle to the extent that many can no longer be detected. Even the dispersant-treated oil in the Gulf has been eliminated by specialized bacteria or coagulated harmlessly on the bottom so that it can no longer be detected. (Notice how quiet all those doom-predicting academic scientists have become.) Even Prince William Sound in Alaska (Exxon Valdez disaster) has been scrubbed clean by the sea and those miraculous bacteria.
Nature still can and does put us in our place.
jhayett - Oct 05, 2010 9:03 AM
FYI. As the North Pole melts, isn't the South Pole getting colder? When will Santa have to move is entourage?
Carl Hicks - Oct 05, 2010 1:08 PM
Really now, then why are there more people on the planet today?
" Consumed water eventually recycles into rain--cleaned by evaporative distillation--and returns to bodies of water. "
Remember acid rain?
So since gasoline is so harmless do we test gas station holding tanks for leaks just to protect their profits?
Carl Hicks - Oct 05, 2010 1:50 PM
Like it never even hapened right?
However, in the years since the Exxon Valdez spilled its cargo of crude oil on Bligh Reef, many parts of the Alaskan marine environment have begun to show signs of significant physical and biological change: waters have warmed, ice has receded, and populations of fish and mammals have declined.
http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/topic_subtopic_entry.php?RECORD_KEY%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=entry_id,subtopic_id,topic_id&entry_id%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=700&subtopic_id%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=2&topic_id%28entry_subtopic_topic%29=1
Carl Hicks - Oct 05, 2010 1:52 PM