Walk Away Like An Egyptian
Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak has officially resigned his post . The Egyptian people, while not happy that the Egyptian army has taken control of Egypt, have succeeded in pushing Mubarak out of power.
This could be a good thing or it could turn out very badly.
While President Hosni Mubarak was by no means an ideal political figure or human being, he was a stabilizing influence for Egypt and the United States in the Middle East. The Egyptian people protesting against Mubarak and his regime had every right to demand a democracy. However, even with Mubarak's departure, true democracy is not guaranteed. While Mubarak may have been a autocratic ruler disliked by many, his replacement may be even worse - and more dangerous. The Muslim Brotherhood - a radical Islamic organization committed to rid the world of Western influence and spread Sharia law through jihad - is setting itself up to have a say in the future of Egypt. The government that ends up replacing Mubarak could be more radical than ever - and anti-Israeli.
And what was our government doing during the Egyptian uprising? Not a lot besides showing that it is "Amateur Hour" at the White House. Mixed messages, conflicting information from different sources, and glaring gaffes provide no sound foreign policy on Egypt and what our government plans to do.
First off, Vice-President Joe Biden made a point of saying that Mubarak should not go, but rather stay and address the concerns of the people. A few days later, President Obama said the exact opposite, saying Mubarak should go. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton stated AFTER Obama's comment that perhaps Mubarak should stay....and so it goes at the White House. It is glaringly obvious that foreign policy is a concept foreign to Obama and his Administration!
And why did the C.I.A. Director, Leon Panetta, come out and state on Thursday, February 10th, that President Hosni Mubarak was going to resign that day? Isn't Panetta supposed to pass on such information to the President of the United States before announcing it to the world? Panetta's words ended up not even being true at the time. Panetta's gaffe served in it's own way to undermine what was going on in Egypt.
White House spokesperson Robert "Fibbs" Gibbs floundered back and forth, saying the people of Egypt were responsible for themselves and their governmental issues, yet at the same time speaking about a list of demands (empty rhetoric as usual) the United States was expecting Egypt to follow. Huh? And one key point that Gibbs and the Obama Administration focused on as though it was of dire importance was that the Egyptian people needed internet access! They had to be back on the social network! Was that a joke?
President Obama doesn't even seem to care all that much, watching from the sidelines and not offering much insight into what the United States government plans to do in order to maintain a relationship with Egypt. Imagine if the events in Egypt had unfolded while George W. Bush was president. Eighteen days of riots and unrest. The people demanding the overthrow of Mubarak. It is a given that the media would have held Bush accountable - demanding to know why the administration didn't know that this was going to happen in Egypt. They would have asked why U.S. intelligence dropped the ball. One very important questions could - and should - have been who will the United States back in an effort to keep Egypt as an ally in the Middle East? Certainly we should not be dealing with terrorists - which is what the Muslim Brotherhood organization consists of. Yet, Obama, when given a chance to denounce the Muslim Brotherhood, did not. Instead, he stated that he wanted to deal with all factions of those who may come to power in Egypt when Mubarak leaves. This includes the Muslim Brotherhood, which should scare us all.
One major - and frightening - statement came from Obama's National Intelligence Director, James Clapper, who felt that the Muslim Brotherhood was "largely secular and very heterogeneous." Not true in any sense. This is an organization committed to Allah. The Muslim Brotherhood believes that the Koran is law and touts jihad as the only way to cleanse the world of western influences. They want to destroy Israel. Guess that doesn't concern the White House too much, as President Obama's nonchalant attitude and failure to denounce the Muslim Brotherhood demonstrates how the Obama Administration tends to brush aside terrorists and/or the threat of terrorism to the world.
The Muslim Brotherhood, should they come to power in Egypt, has called for a war with Israel. We are looking at the possibility right now that Egypt could become an Islamist state. Granted, for right now the Egyptian army is control. But who is to say what the future for Egypt will hold? And if the Muslim Brotherhood comes into power and does make Egypt an Islamist state, it is almost a given that war will break out between Egypt and Israel. Should that happen, the situation in the Middle East could escalate and have dire consequences for many countries, including the United States.
For right now, the situation in Egypt seems to have calmed down. The United States military has helped support the Egyptian military - providing military equipment over the years. And as long as the military remains in control of Egypt, at least the Muslim Brotherhood will be kept at bay. For the time being. And hopefully for once, the Obama Administration will not resort to their usual method of handling major foreign political disasters, which translates into doing nothing.
So for all of the people celebrating the downfall of President Hosni Mubarak - be careful what you wish for. Remember when the Shah of Iran was ousted by a revolt? The Ayatollah Khomeini came to power and we all know how that ended. The United States lost a major ally and gained a real enemy. The same could happen with Egypt.
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73 Comments
Tom Bal - Feb 11, 2011 3:44 PM
Decent statement.
The one thing I do see as being in the way would be the Brother Hood.
They may not be the majority but they are well put together and the only sect that at this time has a plan as always a mission.
I am a bit disturbed on how this administration really does not know what the other hand is doing.
Do they not talk with each other?
Kind of amateurish.
Leon Panetta should be fired.
I sure hope they don’t handle this like everything else and just ignore it because that would be a huge mistake.
This isn’t going away and could prove to be pivotal for the rest of our lives
Tom Bal - Feb 11, 2011 4:32 PM
You were right.
I opened the door back up for the dirty 7.
Just trying to be nice.
Am I dumb.
Won’t happen again
I’m kind of new to this.
ahemmer - Feb 11, 2011 4:42 PM
It is really sad that they have to try over and over to try to comment here. Wonder why that is?
When my blog on Egypt first went up, I had two comments from bamaphd. He sure needs to get a hobby! or a life!
jhayett - Feb 11, 2011 9:04 PM
MGarber - Feb 12, 2011 7:54 AM
And of all people to think that restoring the internet in a society with a single government media source is silly, Im actually more surprised than usual at your simplistic thinking, Amy....
And as to the Muslim Brotherhood, your outrage would be credible if you were equally outraged at the organizations here that are committed to Jesus, beleived the Bible is law, and work to have a say in the future of America.
referee33 - Feb 12, 2011 8:50 AM
Question - who are the "dirty 7"?
Tom Bal - Feb 12, 2011 8:53 AM
What a ridiculous statement Comparing the Brotherhood to the Bible. I don’t remember anyone in this country killing people for not believing in the bible Your Statement is So Far Off The Wall that I really feel I shouldn’t respond.
If you think that Comparing the Brother Hood and Bible is a legitimate argument you’re so far out there I would consider you insane.
I have never felt like beheading someone because they we not Christian.
I just can’t believe someone would make the comparison unless of course you’re another atheist who because you don’t believe feels it’s your duty to talk just plain stupid.
If you don’t believe that’s your problem.
If I am completely outraged with you does that count can I now be outraged with the
Brother Hood.
One last thing I’m out raged with the whole administration. 5 different people made 5 different remarks opposite of each other. Biden Obama Gibbs Panetta Clinton That where it came from.
You’re disgusting to me
MGarber - Feb 12, 2011 9:38 AM
Im glad that you arent one of them. Despite your out rage.
Tom Bal - Feb 12, 2011 10:30 AM
You still don’t know what you’re talking about.
Just because some off the wall cult says they believe in Jesus Christ Does Not Make Them Christian.
It’s a word anyone can use it any one.
Separate the real from the false
There is the Christian right and the Radical right BIG Difference,
Get It.
You never separated your comment so I had no reason to think otherwise.
And what’s wrong with the Christian right wanting a say.
They are the ones being persecuted by the Main Stream Media and Yourself.
After 9/11 80% of the country claimed to be Christian,
The number has dwindled every year since.
That’s not being a Christian!
I’m done with you I’m too far off topic.
I’ll save it for the right Topic.
But I stand by everything I said.
Get off our Backs.
You don’t like our Holidays start your own
You don’t like that we have a faith then start your OWN.
Everyone else in this country can.
SO CAN YOU.
If the meek shall inherit the Earth I guess I’m In Trouble.
But someone needs to speak up for the Meek
Sorry for the rant Amy just unbelievable what a fool can say.
MGarber - Feb 12, 2011 11:30 AM
And there is conservative islam and there is radical islam, and there is a big difference.
And what’s wrong with the conservative islam wanting a say.
They are the ones being persecuted by the religous right and Yourself.
After 9/11 1% of the country claimed to be Zoroastrian,
The number has dwindled every year since.
"You don’t like our Holidays start your own "
...I never met a holiday I didnt like.
"You don’t like that we have a faith ......"
.... Ive got no problem with anybody's faith, as long as they keep it out of my life.
"....then start your OWN. "
..... Im working on it. It'll involve fishing.... and bratwurst....and the Packers.
Carl Hicks - Feb 12, 2011 12:34 PM
I truely doubt the Egyptians went through all this trouble to overthrow a repressive government to become anything but a free people.
Onlyoneme - Feb 12, 2011 2:25 PM
Good question Amy, one that I have been reflecting upon myself. I have yet to come up with any positive or compelling reasons for my blogging here anymore.
I have determined that blogging here requires (to an extent) some obsession with trying to get the last word. On the other hand, it could also do with a compulsion to answer to what is perceived to be a partisan rant.
Personally, I could care less what you or Hayett say anymore, I have lost all interest in posting to the blogs. To put it simply I have better things to do.
ahemmer - Feb 12, 2011 4:05 PM
Onlyoneme - Feb 12, 2011 4:24 PM
Carl Hicks - Feb 12, 2011 10:02 PM
MGarber sign me up! I won't fish during the playoffs but preseason works....lol
WizerthnUUU - Feb 12, 2011 11:07 PM
that we would allow a nation to decide for "themselves" what they wanted to do.
What a concept! I'm sure if Bush were in office, he would have pressured the
Egyptian President to call in the army and put down the uprising and find a way to
blame it all on muslim extremists.
Instead, we stayed out of it! The young educated people of Egypt will remember
this. As they take control of the nation, they will see a US President who can be
their friend and ally. Our actions as a government will not drive the masses into
the arms of the Muslim Brotherhood.
It's sad that A. Hemmer feels that the best we can hope for is a military
dictatorship to continue in Egypt. I look to see a representative republic with
educated individuals who value civil liberties running an arab nation with excellent
relations with the US. That is the only kind of government that will have a chance
to control the Muslim Brotherhood. The "kick sand in the faces of the masses"
diplomacy that our former President Bush used by keeping US friendly oppressive
dictators in place at all cost, will never "stop" the spread of radical muslims. It
only causes these groups to grow and grow.
irked - Feb 12, 2011 11:53 PM
Thank goodness you are whizzer than me ! .lol...
jhayett - Feb 13, 2011 7:51 AM
First, Biden and Obama had conflicting statement and ideas for Egypt and Obama didn't want these changes. However, Obama caved in when he realized he had no choice.
Second. How does Iran fit into all this? If Obama wants to "allow a nation to decide for "themselves" what they wanted to do." Then tell us why Obama is not helping those people with their very strong desire to remove their Muslim dictators?
WizerthnUUU - Feb 13, 2011 9:16 AM
Other people do NOT want us meddling in the affairs of THEIR country. It is not
our god given right to be involved and to decide the future of other nations.
If WE create a choice for a nation of turning toward a foreign nation that supports
a dictator or a religious group or ideology, who they feel are fighting against this
intervention, which will they choose?
WE have to stop driving people into the arms of extremists. We should have
learned this lesson from our dealings with the Shah in Iran and even to a certain
extent our dealings with Batista in Cuba.
Mr Hayette : Don't say that Obama had no choice....he had no right! He knows
that and acted accordingly - as did every other national leader.
ahemmer - Feb 13, 2011 6:35 PM
Anyhow, Egypt, and other countries ARE important to the United States. Egypt has been an ally of America for 30 plus years. What happens in other countries does affect our country. We have every right to be concerned about what other countries are doing - for the sake of our own national security. Whether they are acquiring nuclear weapons ala North Korea (another country the Obama Administration likes to ignore) or Iran (yet another one the Obama Administration refuses to address). And let's hope that the protestors in Egypt demanding a "democracy" aren't really being stirred up by other factions, mainly the "Muslim Brotherhood." And the Obama Administration's handling of the crisis in Egypt was pathetic. This admistration has no clue about how to help our allies, but they sure like to try to cozy up to our enemies. One really has to wonder if Obama would really care if the Muslim Brotherhood came into power in Egypt. Let's hope not. And to say our country drives people to become extremists is simply wrong, but it is par for the course with the "blame America first" crowd.