Democrats flee Madison to avoid vote on Walker budget.
Aside from teachers going AWOL from their classrooms in order to go protest (for the kids? wink wink...) in Madison, seems that Democratic senators have decided to flee the state in an effort to stall the vote on Governor Scott Walker's budget. Unbelievable tactics? You bet. Just imagine if when Obamacare was being debated, Republican Senators boarded a bus to get out of Dodge to avoid being present at voting time (although, in the case of Obamacare, it didn't matter as the voting methods used to pass that garbage of a bill were shady to begin with....)
Read the entire story on the spineless State Senate Democrats right here:
"Senate Democrats boycott Thursday vote on Walker budget plan" from the Milwaukee Journal/Sentinel, February 17, 2011. Story by Jason Stein, Patrick Marley, and Steve Schultze of the J/S staff.
A few brief excerpts:
-"Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald (R-Juneau) said that Democrats were "not showing up for work" and that police were searching for them to bring them to the floor."That's not democracy. That's not what this chamber is about," Fitzgerald said of the boycott to reporters."
-"Speculation in the Capitol pointed to Illinois as the state where Democrats had headed."
- "(Sen. Tim) Cullen (D-Janesville) said Democrats hope delaying the bill will give more time for union demonstrators to win over any possible wavering Republicans. He said the decision was made by other Democrats at a meeting at which he was not present.
-"The tactic wasn't winning over Sen. Rob Cowles (R-Green Bay), a moderate whom unions had been trying to court to vote against the bill. Cowles called the blockage of the Senate vote an attempt to "shut down democracy."
No kidding! Yet another prime example of adults behaving badly. In a way it's almost funny, if so much wasn't at stake. (Did the Dems drive away in a fleet of Prius's - or use mass transit?) As a potential upside, maybe the Democrats who ran away won't come back for a few years - that would really help our state!!! Let them all hang out in Illinois...
And remember, all Walker is asking is that state union employees pay a very small portion of their benefits cost - 5.8% to help fund their own pension plans and 12.6% for their health care (half of the national average). No jobs lost. Yet, the union whiners and thugs are complaining that the sky is falling and public education and other public works are going to go down the toilet if such legislation is enacted!!! That's a big fat lie and we all know it.
Stand firm, Republicans! The time is at hand when our state can begin to return to an era of fiscal responsibility and get the out-of-control spending common to the Doyle years, under control. The steps may be painful, but worth it in the long run. And everyone should do their fair share!
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123 Comments
MGarber - Feb 17, 2011 2:57 PM
Well, lets be honest at least and ask if this would eliminate collective bargaining. It looks like it would.
I have no problem with that at all, but dont make it sound like they're merely upset over their out-of-pocket benefits costs.
yert49 - Feb 17, 2011 3:11 PM
"I'm on this 12 watt TV station that only 12K watch nationwide" But Al gore and I will save you! Come hither you scardy-cat dems and I will save thee.
Pretty soon there will be no one left.
ahemmer - Feb 17, 2011 3:15 PM
From: Churchill, Jolene
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 11:47 AM
Subject: THE STATE CAPITOL IS IN FULL LOCK DOWN
Importance: High
THE POLICE HAVE ADVISED THAT WE LOCK OUR DOORS.
GROUPS OF YOUNG KIDS ARE MARCHING THROUGH THE HALLS YELLING AT THE TOP OF THEIR LUNGS....DRUMS ARE BANGING, ETC.
RESTROOMS ARE BLOCKADED. VANDALISM YESTERDAY.
ELEVATORS ARE BLOCKADED.
ANGRY CROWDS ARE POUNDING ON OUR GLASS WINDOWS.
PLEASE, PLEASE PRAY FOR OUR STATE.
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So much for the "angry rhetoric" always blamed on the conservative right, huh? What a bunch of hypocrites. And what is really shameful are the teachers using their students as pawns - with many of the students not even knowing what they are protesting - or why they are at the capitol. Also heard that many out-of-state people are being brought in to protest. Interesting, hmmmm? (Kind of reminds me of "smokes for votes"..... when New Yorkers came into our state to influence elections by buying votes from homeless people by giving them cigarettes....)
jhayett - Feb 17, 2011 4:31 PM
referee33 - Feb 17, 2011 4:34 PM
ahemmer - Feb 17, 2011 5:17 PM
referee33 - Feb 17, 2011 10:02 PM
Carl Hicks - Feb 17, 2011 10:02 PM
"angry mob?"
I see you don't like the right to assemble when lefties do it, do ya?
irked - Feb 17, 2011 10:51 PM
revved about this now . I am looking to take more from the unions now . Increase
the % that they must pay for healthcare .
Proud Progressive - Feb 17, 2011 11:55 PM
halealthcare payments. It's about taking a way the right to collectively bargain.
jhayett - Feb 18, 2011 7:16 AM
The Wisconsin Constitution, however, only requires that three-fifths of each chamber to be in attendance for “any law which imposes, continues or renews a tax, or creates a debt or charge, or makes, continues or renews an appropriation of public or trust money, or releases, discharges or commutes a claim or demand of the state.”
So if Republicans included non-fiscal, but still controversial provisions, in a separate bill — including, potentially, the provisions regarding collective bargaining — legally they’d only need 17 senators for a vote to be held, Esenberg said. That means Republicans could vote without a single Democrat being present, he said.http://www.wisconsinreporter.com/gop-might-not-need-democrats-to-pass-controversial-legislation
jhayett - Feb 18, 2011 7:50 AM
http://www.wpri.org/Commentary/2010/5.10/Eg5.18.10/Eg5.18.10.html
jhayett - Feb 18, 2011 8:39 AM
"Education leaders say." No facts but an opinion!!
ahemmer - Feb 18, 2011 9:19 AM
And if he busts a few unions in the process, so be it! Unions are no longer needed in this day and age. All that's happening is that union leaders are freaking out cuz the gravy train may end if workers have a choice as to whether or not to pay union dues!
And it is still hilarious that the Democrats fled the state in an effort to stall the bill. And they say the Republicans are the "party of no?" Too funny! Heard that some of the Dems were upset there was no "high speed rail" to get them out of the state really, really fast!!!
irked - Feb 18, 2011 9:41 AM
dues . It is giving the members a choice !! Is that not what you would want ?? By the
way for your taxes this year how much extra are you going to pay ? We are doing
what we think fixes the states economy . It is time the PDLS's stand and do wht they
believe !! Give more taxes !!
referee33 - Feb 18, 2011 9:50 AM
referee33 - Feb 18, 2011 10:17 AM