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Will Kloppenburg be as quick with a concession speech...
We all know how Democratic candidate for the Wisconsin Supreme Court, Joanne Kloppenburg, was quick to claim victory (with a whopping 204 vote margin (less than .004% out of 1,479,976 votes cast!)) shortly after the elections on Tuesday, April 5th. Before anything was official. Before the canvasses and certification....
For those who may have forgotten:
Enter the City of Brookfield. Waukesha County Clerk, Kathy Nickolaus, neglected to press the correct computer button to ensure that the votes from that specific area were given to the Associated Press. Yes, you heard that right. The Associated Press wasn't given the numbers! The votes from Brookfield were never "found," they were just never sent to the AP. They were counted. The information was there. And the mistake was found during the canvassing - which is the point of the canvass to begin with. Many on the left have been been clamoring for Nickolaus to step down and resign her duties, due to this mistake. (Funny how the Dems in Madison didn't call for a known multiple drunk driver, Representative Jeff Wood, to lose his job over his multiple CRIMES! In fact, when they needed his vote during a lame-duck session, they busted him out of jail and drove him to Madison. What hypocrites!)
Supreme Court Justice David Prosser is now ahead by over 7,000 votes. The official canvassing is supposedly going to end tomorrow (Friday, April 15th). The canvass just means the votes - which have already been cast (again, not "found") are being tallied and compared to all the recorded information to make sure all the counts add up. Milwaukee has yet to finish, but most other counties are all done.
There is no way - in all honesty - that Joanne Kloppenburg will catch up to Prosser and win.
With this in mind, will she (or the Democratic machine that is behind her, pulling the strings) admit defeat? Or will she demand a recount?
Only time will tell. However, the eventual reality is that Kloppenburg has lost. Prosser has won. And Joanne Kloppenburg sure could learn a thing or two from Prosser. At least he hasn't declared victory. The man has class.
If Kloppenburg DOES have any sense of class or decorum, she'll admit defeat. Unlike her premature victory speech, she's had a lot of time to work on a concession speech! It should be a good one.
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41 Comments
Aloha8439 - Apr 14, 2011 7:01 PM
Does that mean Kloppenburg should have won? No. What is interesting here is that after the infamous victory speech, Kloppenburg actually fell behind by about 50 votes. Only after that point were the mysteriously lost Brookfield votes discovered. But no one seems to make that point - everyone assumes that the Brookfield votes changed the election when that may not be the case.
It is true that the Brookfield votes have eliminated her hope to win after a recount. She can't realistically believe she will make up over 7,000 votes during the recount. Nevertheless, I think she should, and will, wait to concede until after an investigation has uncovered what truly happened in Brookfield.
ahemmer - Apr 14, 2011 7:24 PM
What simply happened was that the Waukesha County Clerk did not send the vote count to the Associated Press! The AP then forwarded on their reports to the rest of the media. Obviously, since they didn't get the Brookfield numbers, they couldn't do that. That's all. The votes were always there - they just didn't get to the press the night of the election to be reported on.
No conspiracy. No smell test.
And isn't it just a wee bit of a stretch to say that since Nickolaus worked for the Wisconsin State Assembly Republican Caucus as a data analyst and computer specialist for 13 years, during the time in which for two years, David Prosser was a Speaker, that somehow Nickolaus is beholden to Prosser to hold back his votes on election night? Why? Doesn't that just seem plain stupid?
The logic behind a Nickolaus/Prosser conspiracy doesn't pass the smell test.
A simple mistake is not voter fraud. What is voter fraud is cheating at the polls and "finding votes" that haven't been counted - but are later allowed - after the polls have closed. Voter fraud is perpetuated by refusing to make people identify themselves at the polls with an ID. And in all honesty, plenty of Wisconsinites think that Prosser's margin of victory would be a lot bigger if he didn't have to play catch-up from the start to counter all the bussed in votes from across the border!
irked - Apr 14, 2011 8:13 PM
Prosser ..
referee33 - Apr 14, 2011 9:07 PM
SPalin - Apr 14, 2011 9:50 PM
young, inexperienced, two time drunk driver and college drop out Brian Deschane's
appointment to an $81,500 job within the Walker administration?
I'm beginning to think that everyone on your side of the aisle has been granted immunity to the rules that you hold Democrats to.
reformed trucker - Apr 14, 2011 9:54 PM
But of course, these days emoting passes for reason and truth. I feel strongly, therefore it is.
Tom Bal - Apr 15, 2011 7:06 AM
That being said did you say the same thing when the demarcates waited 3 hours to vote on a resolution during Doyle’s time waiting for one of their own to arrive from jail via the Huber law for drunk driving for the 3 or 4 time.
Did you say the same thing then? I doubt it so don’t give me the party lines routine.
By the way the boy you talk about is now gone.
Resigned after Mr. Walker found out what had happen.
I would guess forced to.
Why do you use the name SPalin shouldn’t it be Npolosi or something on that line?
Now for Kloppenburg to give a victory speech while only leading by 200 votes without waiting for the official results is quite revealing of a person’s mentality.
If she has one once of dignity she will forgo the recount save the state over 1 million dollar and move on to her next losing campaign. We shall see.
There is no way she is going to make up 7300 votes.
At most as all recounts have shown maybe 300 or she may even be a bigger loser.
You and the media turned this into a victory for the unions now Prosser has won, will you finally admit the state is ready for Walkers changes.
I doubt it.
You people made this into something it should never had been but as long as you did it can we now move on and get this state moving again, let’s get back to work..
ahemmer - Apr 15, 2011 7:07 AM
Last I looked, Deschane wasn't a politically-elected official - a representative of the people. No, he was hired by the Walker Administration (not Walker himself, mind you) and then demoted from his position once his background came under scrutiny. On the other hand - did the Dems call for Rep. Jeff Woods to step down? After numerous drug/drunk driving offenses - and one that occurred during his term? Did they ask that Woods resign his position? NO. In fact - like I previously stated - they busted him out of the slammer in order to vote with them during a lame-duck session when they needed his vote! They could have cared less about his less-than-stellar background. Hypocrites.
Tom Bal - Apr 15, 2011 7:34 AM
Why should she resign was she not professional by coming forward and admitting her mistake while using a computer. Why is this criminal?
Being unprofessional would have been not too. Or to pass the blame else were. She stood up there and took it.
Put yourself in her shoes she showed a lot of guts. She did what she is being paid for Her JOB
Here’s the problem you liberals are so use to winning at any expense that when someone makes an honest mistake you think she was using one of your play books, well she didn’t this was an honest mistake and was found during canvassing. That is the exact reason for the canvass.
Here’s another fact had this been the other way around and they had found 7500 more for Kloppenburg in let’s say Dane county It would not have surprised me at all. Just good old fashion corrupt democratic politics. I would like to think that you were hoodwinked but you were not This Was an honest mistake.
Seems to me you folks just don’t know what an Honest Mistake Is.
Not everyone thinks like a Liberal get it through your heads; some of us have higher ethics and morals and need to sleep at night.
Had Kloppenburg won I would have been very disappointed but I would have taken the loss and moved on your side just can’t phantom a loss.
That’s just tough POOP.
Better get used to it 2012 is coming and we are not done...
sharpaxe - Apr 15, 2011 10:21 AM
If we are to move forward with Voter I.D. and remove any doubts about future elections, we cannot defend her whatsoever, even though we know the truth. We shouldn't have to reduce ourselves and be forced to play their games by standing behind her, nobody cares if it was an honest mistake. Just look at some of these comments aimed at the left...what a smackdown of facts...nobody will change their minds. We need to keep standing up for what's right.
And the proof of how twisted the left is...Kloppenberg will NEVER concede...EVER!! The results will be official today, Prosser will be declared the winner, and she won't say anything to the cameras. She's so embarrassed, she will not even ask for a recount, and will release some kind of stupid little written statement. (wouldn't that be cool if this actually happened?)
SPalin - Apr 15, 2011 10:51 AM
any buddies?'
Of course he appointed buddies, they all do. The question should be: wonder if
the ethically-challenged Govenor Diamond Jim Doyle EVER hired anyone with "no
college degree, little management experience and two drunken-driving
convictions"? Considering that we've never heard Charlie Sykes rant and rave
about a similar appointment by Diamond Jim, it's safe to say the answer is no.
But if there was a similar appointment, then Diamond Jim should be equally
shamed for doing so.
Walker was questioned about this yesterday. As Dan Bice points out:
"Walker responded by distancing himself from what happened:
"That person was five levels below me. When that hiring was brought to my
attention, I had my staff go back and have that person taken out of that position,
and I acknowledged the fact that there were more qualified people, and I asked
someone else to be put into that."
Walker didn't mention that his chief of staff, Keith Gilkes, recommended
Deschane for his first job in state government or that two cabinet secretaries
signed off on his hiring."
His chief of staff is five levels below him?
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/119872294.html
I wonder how many nasal erections Walker's "highly misleading" remark would
earn him if WAPO's fact checker were to investigate.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-
checker/2011/02/ryans_claims_of_trillions_in_n.html
jhayett - Apr 15, 2011 11:32 AM
Globe Staff / April 14, 2011
"House Speaker Robert A. DeLeo, setting up a major fight with unions, proposed yesterday to strip local public employees of most of their rights to bargain over health care, as part of a $30.5 billion annual state budget that imposes the largest year-to-year spending cut in two decades.
The House plan gives local officials, such as mayors and town councils, unfettered authority to set copayments and deductibles for local public employees without having to negotiate with unions. Only the share of premiums paid by employees would be on the health care bargaining table."
Here's my point. If liberals want so badly for Obama to grow the size of our government, they must believe that big government is good to have so to help with our own decisions. Like taking over part of the auto industry, the banking industry, and adding those to the already controlled Amtrak, the post office, and many Americans retirement savings, etc. Since that is the liberals belief, can someone tell me why the US Gov needs unions to tell Obama and friends, plus every state and local official, as to what amount the tax payer must pay for gov. employees benefits? Using the liberal dogma, isn't our US gov. smart enough and sophisticated enough to make those decisions for us without having a union forcing our gov officials, and me the tax payer, with what to do with employee benefits?
jhayett - Apr 15, 2011 11:43 AM
jhayett - Apr 15, 2011 12:13 PM
Tom Bal - Apr 15, 2011 12:14 PM
Were you gone during the Doyle years? Did you just get back?
Type in Jim Doyle Corruption and watch your computer start smoking there are so many state and federal complaints against this so called governor I couldn’t even begin to posts them here for you.
From giving out No Bid contracts to sweet deals for the Indian casinos.
All muti million dollar supporters.
Where the heck have you been?
Funny how you libs claim and I am saying Claim Walkers going to give out No Bid Contracts when your boy Doyle was investigated by the Federal Government for doing just that.
And by the way had to give Millions back to the contributors.
Just another page out of your How to be a True Liberal and not get caught hand book.
jhayett - Apr 15, 2011 12:14 PM
MGarber - Apr 15, 2011 1:07 PM
Dont you think she should be let go for incompetency?
referee33 - Apr 15, 2011 2:19 PM
ahemmer - Apr 15, 2011 4:36 PM
Want to get started on some questionable Doyle hires - that have no credentials? How about Diamond Jim's legal representative? Remember her?Chandra Miller Fienen was the chief legal counsel for Governor Doyle. Trouble was, she wasn't licensed to practice law in Wisconsin! Ooops! And if you look into Fienen's background, looks like Harvard law daddy - Mark Miller, made a bit of a political deal with Diamond Jim to get his ultra-lib Berkeley graduate daughter a job with Doyle.
Should I go on?
sharpaxe - Apr 15, 2011 4:43 PM