Toxic Air
Threee years ago I was asked to join a group of community bloggers by Lake Country Publications (LCP). The purpose was to create a forum for the exchange of opinions and ideas which would be an asset to the community newspapers published by LCP. I thought this was a great idea and gladly joined. Initially, things went very well. I wrote some blog posts and got a limited number of generally responsible comments. Some were supportive and many were in disagreement, but all were civil, articulate and thoughtful. Even the notorious Picard brothers were civil while casting aspersions on my intelligence and knowledge. That was O.K., because my ego is secure and hide nearly impenetrable. It was fun.
Then things began to deteriorate. Comments from a very few commenters became insulting and abusive towards me. I didn't much like this, because comments like these are generally devoid of any useful intelligence, hence dull and boring. However, I tolerated it because I promised an open forum so, although we had the power in those days, did not block or edit any comments except for asterisking an occasional profanity. Times have changed
Now there are many more comments, often upwards of 100, relatively few of which address the subject matter of the blog post and instead engage in a war of words among commenters. Personal commentary, insults and sarcasm abound with no useful content. Many are a mystery to me because they involve other blogs which I do not have the time to read. It seems that lots of folks want to take out pent up anger on others. Most of the more vociferous hide behind pseudonyms, apparently inducing some sort of mob mentality. You know, the folks who yell "Jump!" at some poor soul on a ledge.
The result of all this toxic nastiness, which apparently is pervasive and much worse on other blogs than mine, has been the loss of some bloggers and the driving away of commenters and potential commenters who do not want to put up with the nastiness and abuse. This pains me as it limits the discourse to a few voluble commenters who engage in long, inscrutable wars of words with each other and sometimes me. I understand that on other blogs the battle has degenerated into personal threats. The response of LCP and Journal Intreractive, the administrator of the blog site, is to ban certain commenters and re-institute an after-the-fact ability to take down objectionable comments. The net result is a confusing mess.
All this is, in my opinion, symptomatic of a much larger societal problem. There has been an almost complete loss of decorum and civility in public discourse, particularly in the political arena but also in the business world and personal relations. No-one can disagree calmly and rationally any more. Disagreements degenerate into vicious arguments and invective is flung back and forth like bricks. Political discourse is a sick joke, fraught with lies and insults. Campaign rhetoric has degenerated from simple misrepresentation into vicious lies and personal attacks with no regard for the truth. The guiding principle has become to win at any cost and by any means, tactics formerly restricted to world wars.
The danger of this "end justifies the means" mentality is a total disregard of the harm those "means" may create. In both political and corporate worlds, and sometimes the personal, the goal obscures the harm done to the innocent bystanders. This "blinder action" is evidenced by many professional politicians obsessed with power and the mania for re-election, as well as corporate leaders who are obsessed by becoming richer than the other guy to often the detriment of their companies. There certainly are exceptions, perhaps many, but there are enough self-motivated opportunists to create a lnasty societal crisis.
Just one example of political obfuscation and chicanery. We have heard unending warnings about the coming insolvency of the Social Security System. It will presumably go broke in 30 or so years. Yet, what is never mentioned is the fact that the Treasury owes the Social Security Administration about $3 trillion--that's trillion, 12 zeros--which should go a long way toward fostering solvency for the forseeable future. Unfortunately, Treasury is overdrawn on its credit card and can't afford to pay off those pesky l.O.U.'s. Hence the crisis.
Great use is made of oft-repeated generalities, like Republicans hate old people and children, and love rich corporate fat-cats and oil companies. Democrats are lap dogs of the unions, and pander to illegal immigrants and the homeless to buy votes. Both of these simplistic misrepresentations are repeated so often that a regrettable number of folks believe them. The word "hate" is used with disturbing frequency, a pejorative that should be reserved for the likes of Adolf Hitler.
The result of all this is a toxic atmosphere that threatens to choke off civility, decorum and basic morality, replacing them with a menacing coarseness that turns us all inward and selfish. The reasons may be complex but generally revolve around the de-emphasis on Judeo-Christian morality and rules of conduct. If you object to the religious reference, use your own source of civil conduct. In any event, there is precious little of it in the public or private arenas.
The implication is the end of communication and with the end of communication, the demise of rationality. A society taken over by the irrational cannot function for long. If we cannot communicate with each other, the result is incomprehensible babble or, worse, red-eyed anger. Ask yourselves, are we not frighteningly close to this today? Our poor little blog is a microcosm of our very ill society. A toxic atmosphere will eventually destroy those who breathe it in.
Is it too late for us? I'm not sure. I have had some success in encouraging a degree of civility on my blog. The unfortunate consequence frequently has been a descent into incomprehensibility and confusion, at least for me. I don't know how to revive morality in a society. It must of needs start with the young, but that means the public schools, largely a lost cause. We need something to blast us out of our uncivil rut, and I don't know what that might be.
I do sense an increasing number of folks are uncomfortable with the situation. Perhaps that's a glimmer of hope. I hope so.
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59 Comments
WFB resident - Aug 06, 2011 11:22 AM
yourself out of the blogging business . I also believe the sense you are feeling has
more to do with the PDLS's beginning to understand how uninformed/uneducated
they are . This was not a put down but an observance to the non- thinking followers
of thePDLS movement known as Kensian !! (Yes I know it is spelled incorrectly) It
needs to be . For this Kensian idea needs to be abolished !!
Carl Hicks - Aug 06, 2011 2:50 PM
WFB resident - Aug 06, 2011 2:54 PM
damper on a little of it ! Lets wipe out those union thugs when we have a chance !!
Carl Hicks - Aug 06, 2011 3:18 PM
WFB resident - Aug 06, 2011 3:32 PM
aneuhauser - Aug 06, 2011 5:43 PM
I agree with you that Kensian economics--only government can manage an economy without booms and busts--is dangerous because it encourages massive government control. Government has proven to be inept at managing anything. Witness the blazing success of the stimulus. Anyone feel stimulated? Ask the 18% unemployed.
However, I think the problem is larger than economics. I think our character as a nation is becoming dangerously flawed because of a lack of moral consciousness. The capitalistic/free enterprise system is effective only if moderated by morality and ethics. Absent that and you have anarchic greed. Politics is subject to the same constraints.
I'm not sure I agree with the "union thugs" label, except maybe for some union bosses. Most union members are just plain folks caught up in a corrupt system. (The UAW is an exception: wise and practical leadership willing to put the interests of the companies--the source of the jobs--first.)
Carl: I couldn't agree more. The fading of moral and ethical restraint began, as I recall, in the 50's and escalated in the 60's. Restraint has been chipped away bit by bit through the years until today, there is precious little of it to be found. The frog is just about boiled.
WFB resident - Aug 07, 2011 10:45 AM
me to do ! After the union told me that I must do what they wanted . I refused to do
so . Then my equipment and car were constantly vandalized ! It was the members
that wanted me to kowtow !So when I use the word thugs I am speaking from
personal knowledge .
Carl Hicks - Aug 07, 2011 2:10 PM
But on the bright side it is increasing the ranks of independent voters. Which puts more thought into the voting process instead of following the sheepish "us vs them" plague that is destroying civil discourse.
Al I will agree this began in the 50s and grew in the 60s, but will continue to argue it expanded dramatically during the "me" decade of the 80s when selfishness became a way of life and has continued to fester ever since.
aneuhauser - Aug 07, 2011 5:44 PM
Carl: I believe selfishness grows when morality diminishes. Moral standards and ethics are what makes a society benevolent and unified. The absence of a general sense of moral conduct shifts focus from the society and our fellow man to the self. Selfishness and disregard for the needs and aspirations of others inevitably will rend the fabric of society. Do we not see this happening today? I've witnessed the descent from a cohesive spirit, as in World War II, to a general "what's in it for me?" attitude. Uninhibited greed and self-focus endangers this great nation like no outside threat.
Carl Hicks - Aug 07, 2011 6:34 PM
That statement is the absolute truth Al. My hat goes off to you sir.
WFB resident - Aug 07, 2011 9:59 PM
is that the union leaders are trying to control and they have a few bad apples
willing to do the dirty work . That is where I have the problem . From that the
leaders keep their own hands clean but push this Thug mentallity to any person
who does not tow the line . So the few in the lead are the thugs controlling a few
more who are able and willing to sway the masses . With out the generalizing the
corrupt group will not be ousted from their ranks !! Look how the o generalized
about the Tea Party ! Funny how our side does not like the generalization but the
leaders of the PDLS's have no problem with it .
MGarber - Aug 08, 2011 11:02 AM
Yeah! Well, at least YOU dont make generalizations!
WFB resident - Aug 08, 2011 11:20 AM
Are you really admitting that the o is not worthy ?
WFB resident - Aug 08, 2011 11:22 AM
to tell me not to . Can the PDLS side say that ? Of course not !
Tami Klink - Aug 08, 2011 5:29 PM
As far as cleaning our 'house' up, here are a few ideas.
1. You must register so that your real name/address/email can be confirmed as legit.
2. Borrowing from the facebook scenario, maybe having to post under your real, legal name along with a picture would be helpful? After all, our readers know who we are!
3. You get a certain number of 'strikes' before your account is either put on a 30 day suspension or possibly even terminiated.
4. As the perpetrators of these blogs, the authors must also follow the rules and if needed, asked to no longer be a participant?
I'm sure that there are all kinds of technical ways to have a pseudo registration. Alas, I don't have enough knowledge to even try and figure that one out.
Meanwhile, I'll continue to put out information for those with hearing loss and be appreciative of the fact that there are many other websites that also link to the column on LCL. One way or another, I will still be 'heard'.
Have a great week!
aneuhauser - Aug 08, 2011 5:59 PM
The problem with generalized criticism of unions in general is it permits the real culprits to hide in the crowd. The focus should be on the bosses and their thugs. Once the rank and file realize they're being led like sheep, they'll vote with their feet and the union bosses and their thugs--particularly public service unions--will be out in the street where they belong. This applies to generalizations in general, in that they inevitably blur the real villains in the crowd.
Tami: Thanks for the comment. As I said in my post, I think our blog problems are symptoms of a larger problem. Disciplining bloggers and commenters just nibbles at the tip of the iceberg. It may help in this forum, but I fear for our society if this incivility continues to escalate.
sirlaughsalittle - Aug 08, 2011 9:40 PM
Are you including the public service unions that helped elect Governor Walker?
Specifically the Milwaukee Professional Firefighters Association and Milwaukee
Police Association? Those public service union thugs?
How long do you think it will be until the cops and fire fighters realize they are
little more than mindless sheeple?
WFB resident - Aug 08, 2011 9:41 PM
Moniker am able to throw out examples in stead of what I really am in thought !
For example I really do not follow in accusing groups as in generalization . But
when I see leaders like our President make sweeping accusations as he and the
PDLS media have done for years now . Not anybody on the PDLS side of thought
have called them on it !! So with my Moniker I can use Sweeping accusations to
show that the PDLS way of attacking is a horrible thing to do . If I was to show
what or whom I am to any of the opposing people it casts a shadow of disparity
towards me and my family !! In other words I would not be able to show the lack
of sensitivity towards those that allow it from our leaders and the media ! I do
apologize but for my safety and my families sake I wish to only show this when
we are safe . So Tami, all that your ideas would do, is stifle some thought . If that
is OK for you guys so be it . I think it all started when the PDLS side of thinking
was not able to answer questions . So they started attacking peoples vocabulary
and sentence structure ! I have even noticed some do not like it when I space my
periods from the words completely . Even though there is no right way or wrong
way with it ! But with that, is when attacks started for those who (thought) ,were
not being able to discuss with those who assume superiority . Sorry for the
rambling !
aneuhauser - Aug 09, 2011 12:54 AM
WFB: Ramble on, my friend. I get your drift. I think you might be a bit paranoid, but then: "Just because the psychiatrist says you're not paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you." --Unknown
WFB resident - Aug 09, 2011 1:43 AM