Walker does the unthinkable.

Governor Scott Walker has decided that the tree which will be displayed in the Capitol Rotunda to celebrate Christmas will be called a.......
CHRISTMAS TREE!!!
Yes, Governor Walker has gone out on a limb. The politically-correct "Holiday Tree" label has been nixed. Finally!
Of course the usual nonsense about "separation of church and state" has surfaced. It doesn't matter that such words are nowhere to be found in the U.S. Constitution.
The perpetually-offended crowd is already saying that the term "Christmas tree" will upset non-religious people. The Madison-based Freedom From Religion Foundation president, Annie Laurie Gaylor, says that Walker calling a "Christmas Tree" a "Christmas Tree" is "rude and insensitive to non-Christians. (Does this mean that calling a "Christmas Tree" a "Holiday Tree" for the past several years has been "rude and insensitive to Christians?")
Walker spokesperson Cullen Werwie sums it up nicely:
"It's a Christmas tree. In all honesty, I don't know what more to say about it."
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136 Comments
MGarber - Nov 08, 2011 8:34 AM
"..such words are nowhere to be found in the U.S. Constitution. "
True. Neither is "right to vote" or "separation of powers". Asside from particular phrases, there are whole concepts (including "God") that arent in the constitution (http://www.usconstitution.net/constnot.html).
"Does this mean that calling a "Christmas Tree" a "Holiday Tree" for the past several years has been "rude and insensitive to Christians?"
Only if Christians dont think of Christmas as a holiday.
Carl Hicks - Nov 08, 2011 10:27 AM
MGarber - Nov 08, 2011 10:57 AM
What would *YOUR* reaction be, Amy?
MGarber - Nov 08, 2011 11:51 AM
... time and money on a Pagan-Muslim-Buddhist-Zoroastrian holiday memorial.
Tom Bal - Nov 08, 2011 2:11 PM
ahemmer - Nov 08, 2011 8:06 PM
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MGarber: I think whomever the Governor of Wisconsin has been has usually had a tree in the state capitol rotunda to celebrate Christmas - although in the past few years in the time of "political correctness" we haven't been allowed to call such a display what it is - a Christmas Tree.
I don't really think there is much cost involved, as the tree is donated (last year it came from Merrill, WI), and the thousands of decorations are donated by Wisconsin citizens. You can read about this at: http://www.wisconsin.gov/state/capfacts/rotunda_s.html
And for those bemoaning the other religions not getting equal time, MGarber - just subscribe to the Milwaukee Journal/Sentinel. Why, just tonight they have a large picture of Muslims in prayer celebrating Abrahams' Devotion (11/8/11 - front section page 4A). And all through the various holidays they will run large pictures with wonderful stories on every religion - other than Christianity, usually - which gets a small mention now and then (sometimes next to a story on pedophile priests, of course). The disdain for Christianity in this country is alive and well and helped along by the media. A media intent on shoving Islam down our throats as a wonderful religion of peace (which is not true in many interpretations) as well as any other obscure religion out there. The bias is glaring.
reformed trucker - Nov 08, 2011 9:28 PM
But I'll support everyones' Constitutional right to have a Festivus Tree... just don't try to stuff your religion down my throat...
reformed trucker - Nov 08, 2011 9:34 PM
But we may need to replace the dangling ornaments with fishing lures and gift certificates...
BruceSpringsteen - Nov 08, 2011 10:25 PM
BruceSpringsteen - Nov 08, 2011 10:29 PM
up before has it?
PS - I like Christmas Trees!
ahemmer - Nov 09, 2011 7:16 AM
http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/11/ohio-kasich-wisconsin-scott-walker-union
Sadly, all Ohio did was vote to raise their own taxes to pay for the cushy benefits/pensions of public employees. Although, Ohio's politicians will probably pass similar legislation piece-by-piece.)
And I don't think requiring people who comment to abide by the Discussion Guidelines is "censorship." There are rules - and they need to be obeyed. The livinglakecountry.com website is not a free-for-all where anything goes - such as foul language, sexual innuendo, perverse remarks, personal attacks, etc. When some people cannot abide by the rules, they lose their privileges to comment. That is why the "Discussion Guidelines" are posted in the first place.
Reformed Trucker: the Christmas tree tradition started in the 16th century. And I fail to see how displaying a Christmas tree in the Capitol rotunda is "stuffing religion down your throat." Close your eyes when you are in the Capitol and you should be OK.
MGarber - Nov 09, 2011 8:25 AM
How much is not too much? Who desides?
"..for those bemoaning the other religions not getting equal time, MGarber.."
Im not bemoaning anything.
"..just subscribe to the Milwaukee Journal/Sentinel.."
Which is a PRIVATE (non governmental) company. If you cant see the difference between a private group of people observing a religous celebration and a governmental body doing it, well, that would explain alot of your confusion.
"...wonderful stories on every religion - other than Christianity.."
REALLY???? You REALLY want to stand by that rediculously false statement? Do you REALLY want me to monitor all the Christmas related stories/pictures/recepies starting now??? I'd be glad to do so if it made you feel more "included".
PS -I like the cookies.
PPS - I like Christmas Trees, too. And the one in the rotunda is always magnificent., although I personally think it would look equally good out in the woods. They're sorta like mounted deers.
WFB resident - Nov 09, 2011 8:29 AM
comments , censorship can happen on a free and open medium . They call that
freedom ! To censor or not ! lol... What is that old saying of be careful of what you
wish for . lol... On subject . Thank goodness that we have a Christmas Tree again .
Those who do not like it welcome to freedom !!
MGarber - Nov 09, 2011 10:25 AM
And yet you amazingly think a picture of Muslims in prayer celebrating Abrahams' Devotion represents "A media intent on shoving Islam down our throats".
Your lack of a sense of irony is hilarious.
For the record, neither side is shoving anything and no throts are involved. Thats not the point.
geno53151 - Nov 09, 2011 12:03 PM
.(Susan Walsh/AP)
Prepare to get nickel and dimed--literally--if you plan to buy a live Christmas tree over the next few years.
The U.S. Department of Agriculture announced Tuesday that all companies that produce 500 or more live Christmas trees per season will be subject to a new tax on each tree, which will pay for an advertising campaign promoting the industry.
Even the Obama Administration admits it's a Christmas Tree.
The tax only affects the rich, since the poor and middle class don't have Christmas trees.
jhayett - Nov 09, 2011 12:06 PM
WFB resident - Nov 09, 2011 1:50 PM