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The Shame of Joe Paterno
It was back in 2008 when revelations broke that President Obama’s past reverend said phrases that seemed to smite White America, with the most blatant one being “God damn America.” While I do not support those comments at all, I think I can make a similar statement about something else going on in the news right now: God Damn Joe Paterno.
Now, some people might think that phrase to be extremely harsh. To me, it’s not harsh enough. Instead of going down in history as the greatest college football coach, Paterno will now be remembered forever as the coach who lacked any kind of moral sense to help innocent children.
It’s been released that when Paterno find out about the allegations against his defense coordinator Jerry Sandusky, he simply told the AD at Penn State and then did nothing else. He never went to the police, he never went to the Board of Directors at Penn State, and he didn’t even talk to Sandusky about it at all- he let him be, and he even allowed him the use of an office owned by Penn State. If you knew a guy who was accused of raping a 10-year-old in a shower, would you want anything to do with him, and would you really have stayed silent and lived life like nothing had happened? Yea, me neither.
This whole “do nothing” approach puts into doubt Paterno’s moral code. If someone reported to you that they had witnessed the rape of a young boy, I’m pretty sure you and everyone else would go to the police immediately. Even if you didn’t go that far, I would at least hope that you would banish the perpetrator from ever setting foot in your workplace and totally isolating him for life. Paterno, on the other hand, simply did nothing besides tell some Penn State officials. The very fact that the man allowed Sandusky to still use Penn State facilities after he knew Sandusky had raped a boy is beyond comprehension for me.
What sickens me even more is the overflow of support for Paterno that has been going on at Penn State, whether it was the students camping outside of his house last week before he got fired, or the riots that broke out after he got fired. Seriously, are you freaking kidding me?? These students are rioting for a man who indirectly supported a sick child molester. If Bret Bielema were ever accused of raping a child or of knowing about a coach who did so and did nothing, you would see me on the frontlines of protestors to get his butt fired. The students at Penn State who are still supporting Paterno are honestly just being idiotic, as I cannot begin to understand how you can still support a coach who has no moral sense or direction of what is good or bad anymore.
On top of all that, if anyone reading this still supports Paterno, let me ask you this: if you’re child got raped by a local coach and another coach found out about it but did nothing, how would you feel? Would you still support the silent coach, or would you want to rip his head off with your own two hands?
Joe Paterno’s tenure at Penn State has come to an inglorious end, and he has no one to blame but himself. He could have avoided all of this back in 2002 if he had just gone to police and quarantined Sandusky until the police could take over. His grave was dug by himself, and I have lost almost all sense of respect for the man. Just because he was a great football coach doesn’t mean he can do what he did. God Damn you Joe Paterno.
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77 Comments
tklink - Nov 16, 2011 12:38 PM
sharpaxe - Nov 16, 2011 1:02 PM
Tom Bal - Nov 16, 2011 1:30 PM
For some reason known only to him he put his football team ahead of what was morally right,
content to hide the facts for whatever reason and that goes for the school also.
Andy Had I seen a man in the shower with a 10 year old child first I would have stopped what was going on right then and there then called the police as I held him.
I would only hope I could control what I would want to do to him at that time.
McQueary is now changing his story so I guess time will bring all the facts to light but I cannot tell you how disappointed I am in a man I thought was something special as a person.
bamaphd - Nov 16, 2011 2:47 PM
WFB resident - Nov 16, 2011 5:15 PM
when he had no facts . But that did not stop him from berating a police force just to
make PDLS's happy . But with this case he remains silent . Why ? What else is he
hiding ? lol... Maybe there is something to what the PDLS's say about the o's
sexuality . 42 can enlighten us on this more . Back to you 42 !
WFB resident - Nov 16, 2011 5:15 PM
when he had no facts . But that did not stop him from berating a police force just to
make PDLS's happy . But with this case he remains silent . Why ? What else is he
hiding ? lol... Maybe there is something to what the PDLS's say about the o's
sexuality . 42 can enlighten us on this more . Back to you 42 !
WFB resident - Nov 16, 2011 5:16 PM
when he had no facts . But that did not stop him from berating a police force just to
make PDLS's happy . But with this case he remains silent . Why ? What else is he
hiding ? lol... Maybe there is something to what the PDLS's say about the o's
sexuality . 42 can enlighten us on this more . Back to you 42 !
bamaphd - Nov 16, 2011 9:17 PM
And still LLC.com will not ban him (her).
WFB resident - Nov 16, 2011 9:30 PM
white people are the devil ! Pretty direct is that not ? Why are you mad bama ? I will
not stop you from telling us the truth .
Andy_Kristensen - Nov 16, 2011 10:31 PM
reason I included the thing about Obama in the beginning was for the "God Damn
_____" line.
sharpaxe - Nov 17, 2011 6:03 AM
It's also interesting to hear Joe Pa's defenders claim that he "told his bosses". Yeah, right. We all know who runs the show. The best bottom-line quote I've heard so far was from Barry Switzer when he said "they all knew".
WFB - Come on, you're WAY out of line on this one. I can't even call that a "reach". Can't we just share our thoughts and concerns about this horrible story without bringing the president into it? What, didn't your comment post fast enough for you? You should apologize for all the people who actually care about child abuse/rape victims.
jhayett - Nov 17, 2011 8:47 AM
We all know he is not guilty of a crime but guilty, in your mind and many others, of moral issues. I too struggle with that. Here’s my debate. The same one we are having in my office/company.
Let’s say you are a 40+ year employee of a major firm. You are up the ladder when it comes to upper management. But you have many above you who are the final decision makers. Like a CEO, Chairman, President, Chancellor, and more. A lower subordinate comes to you with the same story that Paterno got. Your thoughts are to call the police according to you and many others. Oh really? I think most people would think this for a minute with maybe questions like these. Why didn’t the person telling me this story call the police as soon as he saw this? I would ask him why didn’t he do this or stop this act. What if the subordinate is lying and I call the police and later find out none of this was true. Did I just ruin a man’s career? Judging by the way the court of public opening is working here, anyone with accusations like that in high places usually live a ruined life regardless of any final proof. We see too many movies about stories where heinous crimes are accused but later found to be untrue.
In a situation like this, most go to their peers. And what do we know about those meetings? Did the Pres. or Chancellor tell Joe that we will take care of this from here.
Hindsight is 20-20. I understand that. The best thing Penn State should have done is ask Joe to step down until the investigation is over. Judge him when all the facts come out. That’s the liberal way Andy. Is it not?
bamaphd - Nov 17, 2011 10:47 AM
Obviously you can't discern real life from the movies Hayett.
What a company man you are.
This was not a "company" it was a university. There is no "profit" motive here. I can see where you would side with someone like Cain on harassing women in the workplace. It's "old boys" like you that do more to keep women "objectified" in a workplace.
The LAW required that the matter be reported in the Penn State matter. You would break the law to protect a career "buddy buddy" Hayett?
You keep telling us you are a member of the "Rose" organization that helps underprivileged kids. If this happened at your organization what would you do?
Let the molester have be benefit of the doubt ________
Call the cops ____________
We're all waiting Hayett.
bamaphd - Nov 17, 2011 10:56 AM
If you are anti abortion, then why is this such a difficult problem for you? If children need to be protected in the womb, should they nat have the same level of protection (or better) in a shower room from predators and their enablers?
WFB resident - Nov 17, 2011 10:59 AM
and other things . To many teachers are getting away with such vile acts that a new
law only for teachers should be in effect ! Like life sentences and loss of pensions
and benefits to start ! I thank bama fort leading me to this very idea ,.Thanks bama .
Lets fight together to oust the bad teachers
Carl Hicks - Nov 17, 2011 11:00 AM
Hearing this said makes me wonder what your conservative side says and what the conservative way is. So innocent until proven guilty is a liberal standard? Isn't it the american way no matter what party you march with?
WFB resident - Nov 17, 2011 11:06 AM
Reforms are Working!
By Jolene Churchill
I’m sure most recall (no pun intended) the liberal lies and foot stomping over
Governor Walker’s path to a balanced budget. The bias liberal MSM, the liberal
run unions, and sadly but not surprising, the state and national teachers union, all
told us that Walker’s move to a balanced budget would be devastating to our
families and our kids in the public school system. Well, well. Not according to the
teachers own survey.
I sent this to the Wisconsin Democratic Party and the Teachers unions asking
them why anyone would want to sign a Walker recall petition now that we have
seen more of the truth. Haven’t heard back as of yet. In fact, what I told these
liberals is we need Walker as our President. Our current idiot in the White House
is lacking expertise, experience, and knowledge as to how to cut spending and
doing so with the least amount of collateral damage. I'm also sending this to the
Milwaukee JS to see if they will report this data. But don't count on this making
any headline news. Or any news at all. Might disrupt the recall. Wouldn't want the
bad ole truth to get in the way. Hasn't before, so why now.
Madison—Today the Department of Public Instruction released the data for a
survey done by the Wisconsin Association of Schools District Administrators. The
administrators for 353 school districts responded, which accounts for 83% of
Wisconsin school districts. The median student to teacher ratio in Wisconsin this
year is 13.5 to 1. Attached is a copy of the survey questions, and the raw data
responses.
jhayett - Nov 17, 2011 12:20 PM
"Hayett,If you are anti abortion, then why is this such a difficult problem for you? If children need to be protected in the womb, should they nat have the same level of protection (or better) in a shower room from predators and their enablers?"
Not one bit of your kicking and screaming was in my post.
jhayett - Nov 17, 2011 12:21 PM
jhayett - Nov 17, 2011 12:36 PM
At that time Joe had no knowledge with anything but one persons recollection. He, as most, go to their boss and report this as Joe did. That's all we can go by for now.
As i said, PS should still make Joe sit but only until the investigation is over. Joe is not the criminal. the perpetrator is and the guy who needs to truly get blasted is the guy who said he saw this and did not call the police.
bamaphd - Nov 17, 2011 12:46 PM
"Hayett,If you are anti abortion, then why is this such a difficult problem for you? If children need to be protected in the womb, should they nat have the same level of protection (or better) in a shower room from predators and their enablers?"
Not one bit of your kicking and screaming was in my post. "
So are you saying you are not "pro life"?
bamaphd - Nov 17, 2011 12:47 PM
jhayett - Nov 17, 2011 1:06 PM
You can keep on with your childish antics but don't kick the wall too hard or your coworkers either.
God bless!
jhayett - Nov 17, 2011 1:32 PM
Joe P didn't see anything. I do agree he should have followed up. But we still do not know what was said in the meetings with the higher ups. Until then he should be innocent of this public bashing.
He took the compliant and went to his superiors. As would you if one of your subordinates told you what they saw regardless of who it is. You wouldn't pick up the phone and call 911 until you knew an accusation like that was true. If you or I saw this? ironclad! We would have called 911 after we stopped and help the perpetrator.
jhayett - Nov 17, 2011 1:33 PM
Joe P didn't see anything. I do agree he should have followed up. But we still do not know what was said in the meetings with the higher ups. Until then he should be innocent of this public bashing.
He took the compliant and went to his superiors. As would you if one of your subordinates told you what they saw regardless of who it is. You wouldn't pick up the phone and call 911 until you knew an accusation like that was true. If you or I saw this? ironclad! We would have called 911 after we stopped and HELD (typo) the perpetrator.
bamaphd - Nov 17, 2011 1:43 PM
I would pick up the phone because I am not qualified to investigate such things. (neither are you )
Only the police are qualified to do so. So I would go to them right off the bat if I had wind of something like this going on. I would leave it to the discretions of the police, who are the professionals in these matters to take the correct action and forward the investigation.
I hope those kids at "Rose" are all right.
This is a very sad reflection on you Hayett.
And you can stop with the foolishness of calling me by other names. It only makes you look even smaller.
bamaphd - Nov 17, 2011 1:46 PM
Here you are so wrong Hayett. Andy's point is about damning the enablers of Child Molestation. I asked you what you would do if you had wind of something like this as "Rose".
We now have your answer.
jhayett - Nov 17, 2011 1:53 PM
Slow down with your hate for mine and others who have Christian values and conservative views. I would never protect anyone from this kind of crime. But I wouldn’t judge or convict without evidence. Joe P didn’t see any of this.
Now grow up bama. Paterno reported all this to campus officials. Investigators found that those officials did NOT report that to the police. PS should have Joe step down until this is over. Not accuse him of something they themselves didn’t report
bamaphd - Nov 17, 2011 2:01 PM
"No and neither would you since the person may not be accurate. "
Wrong! Yes I would, have, and would do it again without blinking an eye.
How do you think all those Catholic priest have gotten away with this for so many years? Because no one called the cops, and no one did anything to stop them.
You like movies?
watch this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doubt_%282008_film%29
It will be an education for you on what happens when you don't call the cops.
jhayett - Nov 17, 2011 2:18 PM
You said, "He could have avoided all of this back in 2002 if he had just gone to police and quarantined Sandusky until the police could take over. His grave was dug by himself, and I have lost almost all sense of respect for the man. Just because he was a great football coach doesn’t mean he can do what he did. gd you Joe Paterno."
McQuaery told investigators, "I did have discussions with police and with the official at the university in charge of police' and that he reported this to Paterno ONE DAY after!! McQueary also said he told Paterno he went to the police! There was no way Joe could have known or stopped this. Not very liberal of you Andy.
bamaphd - Nov 17, 2011 2:25 PM
Are you kidding us Hayett?
Paterno was the head coach. As soon as he had wind of this the right thing was to remove this animal the same day.
jhayett - Nov 17, 2011 2:40 PM
"He could have avoided all of this back in 2002 if he had just gone to police and quarantined Sandusky until the police could take over." He, according to Andy, is Joe Paterno. Paterno did NOT witness this nor did McQuaery tell Joe at the moment of the incident. So how could Joe "quarantine" Sandusky? Please bama. Read and or comprehend before you opine and or attack someone
bamaphd - Nov 17, 2011 2:51 PM
He confronts him and takes him out of the job as soon as he gets wind Hayett. Does not matter if he saw, did not see was present was not present. You take the pervert out of the system.
This was a school Hayett. There are lots of well proven stroies of coaches sexually abusing hockey players even older than the poor kids who were the victims of this predator.
What is wrong with you?
jhayett - Nov 17, 2011 3:01 PM
jhayett - Nov 17, 2011 3:05 PM
sharpaxe - Nov 17, 2011 3:58 PM
Bama - I agree with you. I understand what your point is. Most people would. One thing though...when it comes to high-profile universities, especially with powerful football programs, you are highly mistaken that there isn't a "profit motive" in play.
bamaphd - Nov 17, 2011 4:03 PM
Absolutely no doubt in my mind as to the "Funding Motive". The members of alumni association would distance themselves quickly. Unfortunately, that's what became the ruling factor here at the expense of kids.
jhayett - Nov 17, 2011 4:37 PM
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying Joe is in any stretch off the hook for his failures. But for now we don't have all the evidence or all the facts. Only ones opinion. And Andy added to that opinion by making a huge false claim as if it were true. I'm sure if Paterno DID know at the moment it happened he would have acted otherwise. But we don't know that do we.
jhayett - Nov 17, 2011 4:48 PM
bamaphd - Nov 17, 2011 5:21 PM
The big "P" had a moral code that allowed him to sleep at night, knowing that this kind of person was working for him and took no steps as a member of society to stop him from committing additional acts against these children.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-mones/protecting-kids-from-sexu_b_1100114.html
Marie R - Nov 17, 2011 5:38 PM
SA, I want to tell you that I most enjoy your words and how they make me laugh. Sometimes outloud and while at work! Your balance and perception is impeccable. But I must say, this time I don’t agree with your analysis. Hayett, I do see your point and agree with you. If you read what Hayett posted and found with balance and caution, you might agree. I take Hayett is not standing up for Paterno
I’m a mom of a young child and I most certainly follow your thoughts and emotions about the horrible life destroying abuse by this State coach named Sandusky. But let us not forget. Mr. Paterno is not the one who committed these horrendous crimes. Nor is he the one who found this. Or is he the one who should have called the police since Mr McQ said he called them. Hayett only said that until the full facts come out Penn State should have not fired Mr. Paterno but make Paterno sit for a while until the truth comes out. It is in the investigators report that Mr. McQ told the coach that he contacted police and that Mr. Paterno found this out a day after. Thus why you and this bama guy are wrong in getting so riled up. Hayett also pointed out to Andy his most horrible untrue accusation he made about Mr. Paterno.
Bama, your dragging in Hayett’s nonprofit work at St Rose as if he knew of an abuse like that is pathetic and very disgusting. I see why you have been banned. You are a man I call a complete coward
WFB resident - Nov 17, 2011 5:52 PM
Marie R - Nov 17, 2011 5:52 PM
You made these comments. - "As soon as he had wind of this the right thing was to remove this animal the same day." - "You take the pervert out of the system."
If I were raped would you feel the same way? If it were an accusation, would you do the same and call the police if at work or go to your officials at work before passing judgment?
I’ve read these posts for many years. I certainly don’t recall ever reading about you, as bamaphd or under your other real name when you were allowed to blog for this company, making this same effort when President Clinton was accused of rape. And more than one time! Why didn't you come forward like this so to "take the pervert out of the system?"
Maybe to you rape of an adult women is less of a crime than rape of a child.
Andy_Kristensen - Nov 17, 2011 5:58 PM
wrong. I never stated that Paterno saw or stopped the ACTUAL abuse. I wrote
that he didn't know about it until after the incident. By saying that he should've
gone to the police and quarantined Sandusky, I am saying that, after he got the
report from McQueary, he should've talked to Sandusky to see if the allegation
was true, contact police if he had any feeling that it might be, and then quarantine
Sandusky, aka keep him out of EVERY Penn State facility and not allow him on
campus at all. So, therefore, I am not accusing Paterno of having seen the actual
abuse or anything like that. I think you simply just misread what I was saying. My
faulting with Paterno is that he didn't even TALK to Sandusky or follow up on the
allegations at all. That, right there, is enough to charge him as morally guilty.
bamaphd - Nov 17, 2011 6:04 PM
Your are totally mistaken. I have only posted here under bamaphd.
"If I were raped would you feel the same way? If it were an accusation, would you do the same and call the police if at work or go to your officials at work before passing judgment?"
If you told me or if a co worker had told me you had been rapped, I would be calling the cops. The workplace has no capacity at all to investigate these cases.
jhayett - Nov 17, 2011 6:14 PM
was true, contact police if he had any feeling that it might be, and then quarantine Sandusky, aka keep him out of EVERY Penn State facility and not allow him on campus at all. So, therefore, I am not accusing Paterno of having seen the actual abuse or anything like that. I think you simply just misread what I was saying. My faulting with Paterno is that he didn't even TALK to Sandusky or follow up on the allegations at all. That, right there, is enough to charge him as morally guilty...Andy
Andy, but that's not what you said at all. But well taken and accepted.
Andy_Kristensen - Nov 17, 2011 6:31 PM
confusion!
jhayett - Nov 17, 2011 6:35 PM
jhayett - Nov 17, 2011 6:35 PM
jhayett - Nov 17, 2011 6:54 PM
bamaphd - Nov 17, 2011 7:26 PM
This was up on Hemmer's blog, but i think it applies far better to the case outlined by Andy than what Hemmer illustrates.
This was evil. Real evil.
reformed trucker - Nov 17, 2011 7:59 PM
Ouch dude, that was harsh. I wouldn't wish that sentence on any woman... ;)
Had I witnessed the attack, 911 would have been dialed... for a stretcher to remove the attacker. I'm sure I would be hauled away in cuffs for further questioning. Seeing something like this, no way am I sneaking away to report it to "the proper channels".
If JP followed proper protocol, his follow up sucks. No way am I letting something like this go.
yert49 - Nov 17, 2011 9:56 PM
bamaphd - Nov 17, 2011 10:29 PM
Then you don't read all that well Marie or you are unable to comprehend a hypothetical argument.
The fact that he was so carefully weaselling around the very simple question makes on wonder if it may need some extra digging.
So you seem to know a lot about him: What do you know about this?
sharpaxe - Nov 18, 2011 9:21 AM
Now ask yourself how many years was this taking place.
Then imagine how close-knit this "family" of coaches/staff/administrators are, especially when paralleled with the MASSIVE amounts of money Penn State's football program generates. Anybody who's ever been involved in team sports understands how close these "families" are.
Now find out who's been fired, the money they made, and the positions they held.
And one last time, ask yourself how many years these crimes were taking place.
Then come back and tell me Paterno had very little knowledge of what was happening. EVERYBODY associated with that program knew, for a very long time. The hammer is only beginning to drop on this university. I believe whole-heartedly in "innocent until proven guilty", but I'm not willing to hide behind it this time.
sharpaxe - Nov 18, 2011 9:51 AM
Let me inform you about Mr. Sandusky. For two decades, he ran some of the best defenses in college football history. He was easily the heir-apparent to take over Paterno's job. Football programs around the country were tripping over themselves for him to become their head coach. We're talking millions here, folks. Then suddenly, in '98 - '99, he was told by Paterno himself he wasn't going to be the coach (hmm..coincides with an alledged incident in the grand jury report). Instead of moving to a head coaching position, and making millions, Sandusky abruptly retires. I wonder why.
And Joe Pa should be placed on leave.
jhayett - Nov 18, 2011 10:44 AM
WFB resident - Nov 18, 2011 2:01 PM
lol...
Andy_Kristensen - Nov 18, 2011 4:09 PM
up against one of them, I would honestly tell both my boss and the University police
because, of all crimes, that is one of the most heinous to me. Especially because I
am a student manager where I work here on campus, I feel like I'd have a bigger
responsibility. I just find the crime of molesting a child to be gross, de-humanizing,
and downright wrong.
sharpaxe - Nov 18, 2011 4:17 PM
jhayett - Nov 18, 2011 7:54 PM
WFB resident - Nov 18, 2011 9:17 PM
from a PDLS that I have yet to hear ! Garber made the first a week ago . Are you
starting to see the ows's for what they have turned in to ?
sharpaxe - Nov 19, 2011 6:47 AM
Marie R - Nov 19, 2011 12:09 PM
Thank you, and yes I did read the “facts.” I had one of the guys at work send me the 23 page report. But I still say you are missing my point. I didn’t disagree with anyone in that Joe P should be involved. All I pointed out was that I agree with Jim’s one and only point. That Mr. Paterno should be given a fair chance and that he is not the molester. This McQ guy told JP that he called police so JP then went to his superiors according to the “facts.” Even in the 23 page report it says what little JP knew. And I see that Hayett found the section where the U is responsible for contacting police. Andy made it sound as if JP saw all this and or could have stopped the child abuse the day it happened. That is not accurate by any stretch of the imagination.
I’m not going to speak out for anyone from here on in. That filthy mouth Mattbama guy, or whoever he is for God ‘sake, did enough. I also have little time at work to post here so please forgive me. Don't take any of this the wrong way please. I believe JP and anyone else should be held accountable only when all the facts are out in the open. There’s also too many lies during the investigation so it’s hard to know what is the truth. But yes, JP sounds like he may have known more. Let the jury and the police make the final decision.
bamaphd - Nov 19, 2011 2:36 PM
Wow you are close to Hyaett. you even sound the same.
Andy_Kristensen - Nov 19, 2011 3:48 PM
make that crystal clear. My problem with him is that, yes, he did everything that he
was legally supposed to do by going to his superiors at PSU, but then he allowed
Sandusky to still hang around campus and continue work on his charity with kids. If
you know someone who has been accused of raping a 10-year-old, I would've
thought that someone would have wanted NOTHING to do with him. Paterno just
acted like nothing happened and not once asked Sandusky about anything.
bamaphd - Nov 19, 2011 4:11 PM
WFB resident - Nov 19, 2011 10:51 PM
! Why do you keep assuming ? Does it make you feel smart ?
bamaphd - Nov 20, 2011 8:03 AM
http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Alleged+victim+describes+claims+abuse+Alberta+Bible+college/5739315/story.html?cid=megadrop_story
bamaphd - Nov 20, 2011 11:10 AM
I think you two along with Tami,are the folks who keep this place alive and keep it from looking like a total joke.
bamaphd
WFB resident - Nov 20, 2011 9:23 PM
the uninformed would think like PDLS's . Thank you bama , for doing us all a service
. Oh I almost forgot . lol... ...........
jhayett - Nov 21, 2011 7:35 AM
Though your comments are allowed sometimes, your well known dishonesty and viciousness makes them pointless. And all the posts removed on Andy's blog from you were done by the LCR!! All for your filth and vulgar attacks on those you don't agree with!! Your attacking one of our few female bloggers with such filth and hate is why you were removed (until you use another IP). Not due to "despite the hardened efforts of others to keep a staunch, grass roots, Liberal point of view from being displayed on these pages" That is the biggest liberal lie ever posted here. And if that is what you call a "staunch, grass roots, Liberal point of view," I have to ask how anyone can admit being a liberal with such a hate-filed and vulgar "staunch, grass roots, Liberal point of view." I would be embarrassed, as I once was, to side with this way of getting one's point across.
I gave you more than three opportunities to post on my blog if you agreed, after you broke all the rules, to abide by the LCR rules. You chose otherwise. You are an extremely dishonest person.
Andy_Kristensen - Nov 21, 2011 10:18 AM
reformed trucker - Nov 22, 2011 9:59 PM
Do you have two different people confused? I know Matt(MC) had a bit of a potty mouth, but bama? Only if you defecate on his shoes first does he turn into a poop-flingin' monkey...