Is a Quran Summit in order?
The Apologizer-In-Chief was at it again a few days ago.
And no, President Barack Obama was not apologizing to the American people for:
- ruining the economy
- a government power grab of the health care system (Obamacare)
- dissing America to any other country willing to listen
- attacking the Catholics with his mandate that Catholic institutions provide health care plans which cover birth control to their employees, which goes directly against Church Doctrine
- snubbing American allies in favor of our enemies
- ignoring the fact that 13 million Americans are unemployed
- gas prices that are rising faster than ever
- nixing the Keystone Pipeline, thus eliminating the possible creation of tens of thousands of real jobs as well as the opportunity to make the United States less dependent upon oil from the Middle East
- weakening the military by severely slashing the defense budget
- putting more people on food stamps then ever before (45.8 million!)
- getting a DEA agent killed due to the"Fast and Furious" program which had the United States supplying Mexican drug cartels with weapons
- prohibiting offshore drilling in many key areas of the United States, including the east and west coasts
- encouraging the "Occupy" protesters
- being the most polarizing and divisive president ever- actually encouraging class envy with his obvious desire to make people more reliant on government and promoting an "entitlement" mentality
- suing the state of Arizona for a bill that enforces U.S. federal law
- the Solyndra disaster and subsequent failures of other "green" businesses that have no business even being in business - and handing such companies millions of taxpayer dollars in the process
- employing dozens of "czars" to help promote his socialist agenda, with little accountability required
- a government take-over of General Motors, including a $60 billion dollar taxpayer-funded bailout
- the Stimulus Bill (aka "generational theft act") which did not create any "shovel-ready jobs" and saw unemployment levels rise above 9% (the true unemployment level is much higher today, in spite of Obama's manipulation of the numbers to forget about the millions of people who are not counted in the unemployment statistics, due to the fact they have stopped looking for a job)
- supporting a mosque two blocks away from Ground Zero
- strong ties with ACORN, Reverend Jeremiah "God Damn the United States" Wright, former members of the Weather Underground: Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn, Tony Rezko (currently in the slammer), and many others in the socialist/communist, anti-American crowd
...and so on. There are just so many things that President Barack Hussein Obama could apologize to the United States for, but don't hold your breath.
No, the most recent apology from the Apologizer-In-Chief was directed at Muslims in Afghanistan.
The White House issued an apology on February 21st (Tuesday)* because a few Qurans were accidentally burned after they had been removed from the shelves of a detention center library, near the Bagram Air Base. A United States military official acknowledged that the Quran's and other Islamic reading materials were removed from the detention center because they contained inflammatory rhetoric promoting extremism, and that detainees were writing on the documents to exchange extremist messages. Several hundred Islamic publications, including Quran's were taken off the shelves. U.S. General John Allan stated that the books were mistakenly given to troops to be burned in a garbage pit. During the course of the burning, Afghan laborers noticed the Quran's and took them out of the fire, saving almost all. Initial reports stated that four Qurans were burned.
Well, even after the White House Apologizer-In-Chief said America was sorry for this grave mistake, it looks like all hell has broken loose in Afghanistan. Two American soldiers were gunned down during the first protests. Demonstrators in Afghanistan protested outside of the air field, yelling "die foreigners, die!," shooting rifles into the air, throwing rocks at the gates, and setting tires on fire. Numerous American flags have been burned. The outrage continues to grow, as the week goes on - with demands that the United States leave Afghanistan. Mohammad Qasim Sediqi, leader of the Khosi district council stated that "Apologies are not enough. The culprits have to be put on trial and culprits should face the law."
As for President Obama handling the situation, perhaps a "Quran Summit" at the White House is in order. Get the troops who accidentally burned a handful of Qurans to sit down over a beer....(oops, that wouldn't work - sorry!) ...to sit down over some non-alcoholic beverage, and meet with some of the leaders of the Afghan protests. Obama can serve up some peanuts, apologize again, make the troops apologize, (give the Afghans a free pass about burnt American flags/wounded and killed American soldiers, etc.) and hope for the best.
On the other hand, maybe Obama should nix the "summit" and stop apologizing to extremists who wish to kill us. Let the American military do its job without having to worry about "offending" extremists, and Afghans - who the United States is protecting with the troops and taxpayer dollars.
(*As a side note, the Milwaukee Journal/Sentinel finally saw fit to run a story on this 2/24/12, when the Quran burning and subsequent apology from the White House came out on 2/21/12).
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151 Comments
yert49 - Feb 25, 2012 8:45 PM
than You know how to cut and paste. Great, now instead of constantly trying and
failing to prove your the smartest person in the room, how about going out on a
limb and offering a reasoned analysis on something, anything!
Or is that too much to expect? Perhaps.
jhayett - Feb 25, 2012 9:17 PM
Outside of the liberal blogs where this debate is taking place, show me some facts.
jman99 - Feb 25, 2012 10:15 PM
"Great, now instead of constantly trying and
failing to prove your the smartest person in the room, how about going out on a
limb and offering a reasoned analysis on something, anything!"
"Did I say they were the same? "
There, I've just proved you are an idiot.
The analysis is beyond repute.
jman99 - Feb 25, 2012 10:27 PM
That should be :
"The analysis is beyond refute."
sharpaxe - Feb 26, 2012 7:49 AM
That's hilarious! Another funny thing is how some will go to great lengths to bash any and everybody's religious freedoms and beliefs right here in this country, but will literally go to the ends of the earth to defend some else's. I say burn 'em all.
jhayett - Feb 26, 2012 8:47 AM
jman99 - Feb 26, 2012 9:33 AM
"I wasn't aware that accidentally burning a Quran, that was used to pass sensitive material by prisoners and only for the purpose to harm or kill more Americans,"
Never proven only alleged.
"....burning a Quran.....is a crime punishable by death. Did you?"
You don't read too much do you? Not surprised. It is pretty easy to look up, even for you. Perhaps you need a cartoon or a comic book to explain it to you.
How strict are the laws?
See:
http://www.christianpost.com/news/muslim-desecrates-bible-in-pakistan-to-avenge-quran-burning-49767/
ahemmer - Feb 26, 2012 9:38 AM
And like Sharpaxe says, lefties bend over backwards to defend our enemies and religions (other than Christianity, which is fair game for bashing). They love it when others hate America - just like many of them do, including Obama.
Just remember this, jman99 - those on the left who continue to insist that Islam is a religion "of peace" sure fail to note all the violence associated with many aspects of that said religion. (And as far as my "prayer rug" comment - it was meant as a joke (which Sharpaxe understood).)
In keeping with the "joke" theme, what religion has nut jobs wanting to go kill people who draw cartoons???? Ah, guess that isn't a joke, because Muslims actually wanted to kill people who drew cartoons that were poking fun of Muhammed. In addition, a past "South Park" episode in which Muhammed appeared in a bear suit brought out death threats from Muslims upset with the show.
See, jman99, those Islamic extremists are just looking for excuses - any excuse - to perpetuate violence against those who don't follow their religious beliefs. And the recent episode with a few burned Qurans has given them yet another "excuse" to go ballistic in the name of religion. I'd say all the apologies in the world won't put out the fires, (no pun intended) since these violent proponents of Islam are just chomping at the bit for excuses, in addition to the main one which set off the war on terror (oops - I mean "overseas contigency operation") the fact that infidels need to be killed.
jman99 - Feb 26, 2012 9:57 AM
jman99 - Feb 26, 2012 10:00 AM
I'm not name calling, I'm stating a fact; which you have so kindly backed up with your current rant.
ahemmer - Feb 26, 2012 10:03 AM
And too bad some of those U.S. soldiers who were urinating on the bodies of dead Taliban didn't save up their pee to put out the Quran book burning fires! (Just a joke - heard it on the radio, so I can't take credit...)
ahemmer - Feb 26, 2012 10:12 AM
"jman99: Bravo - call me a bigot while you continue to defend those who killed two U.S. soldiers simply because a handful of Qurans were ACCIDENTALLY burned! Thanks for the classic lib example of falling back on name-calling when your position is indefensible."
Stating "a fact" that I am a bigot?" C'mon jman. Look up the word "fact" in your wikipedia dictionary. Saying you are stating "a fact" by calling me a bigot is akin to me saying "you are an idiot - and that is a fact!!!" True? Maybe, maybe not - since I don't personally know you, as you don't personally know me. So just drop the name-calling and you'll be fine.
However, if you continue to believe that U.S. soldiers deserved to die because a few Qurans mistakenly went up in smoke, then all bets are off. You can join the other lefties who comment on this site in crying and wringing your hands over burned Qurans and worrying that we don't offend our enemies.
jman99 - Feb 26, 2012 10:16 AM
Nope no defense there.
""Most of our energy is consumed at night."
Ummmm, no, that's why energy rates are lower at night and businesses can pollute the night sky with poorly aimed photons that light up nothing at all.
Most energy is used for commercial and manufacturing activities that take place between the hours of 07:00 and 21:00
You know, the same time most folks are awake because the sun is up and they are doing things.
Perhaps you live in an alternate republican zombie universe, but most people here on earth tend to sleep at night. "
No defense there.
""We consume more energy when it's dark as
opposed to when it's light. "
Well if it is common knowledge to you, please provide evidence. "
No defense there
jman99 - Feb 26, 2012 10:19 AM
Bingo. Americans are just to ignorant of other cultures to be telling them how they should be living their lives. "
No defense there.
"""Officials at Bagram reportedly believed Taliban prisoners were using the books
to pass messages to each other "."
Funny that they would not have turned this over to an Iman. I'm sure there must be a liturgical procedure for the disposal of a damaged or desecrated holy book.
Even if they just gave it to one of the Chaplains that is there with the US forces, they might have a clue how to proceed, or at least hold on to the Koran.
How hard would that have been? "
No defense there.
jman99 - Feb 26, 2012 10:22 AM
No defense there.
""Enough of trying to appease those whose main goal is to kill us. And now the U.S. military is supposed to consult with Imams and Chaplains when it comes to "proper Koran disposal?" Are you nuts? What's next - looking into how to properly launder a prayer rug? Give me a break."
Spoken like true blue bigot. Got your sheet on??"
No defense there.
"Ah litlle Jimmy jim jim.
"I wasn't aware that accidentally burning a Quran, that was used to pass sensitive material by prisoners and only for the purpose to harm or kill more Americans,"
Never proven only alleged.
"....burning a Quran.....is a crime punishable by death. Did you?"
You don't read too much do you? Not surprised. It is pretty easy to look up, even for you. Perhaps you need a cartoon or a comic book to explain it to you.
How strict are the laws?
See:
http://www.christianpost.com/news/muslim-desecrates-bible-in-pakistan-to-avenge-quran-burning-49767/ "
And no defense there.
So I can only conclude that you really have no clue what you are talking about when you say I have defended.
So are you an idiot Hemmer or a Liar?
jman99 - Feb 26, 2012 10:31 AM
"Its Sunday morning Hemmer, Lent, why are you not at church? "
ahemmer - Feb 26, 2012 10:54 AM
And it's no business of yours if I am at church or not - how strange. Should I ask you why you aren't at a Wiccan service? Or ACLU meeting? Or conversing on-line with the folks at moveon.org? Nope. None of my business.
jman99 - Feb 26, 2012 11:15 AM
Sure it is, when you spew Bishop this and bishop that all over the blogs. It has to do with credibility, yours.
You either live the faith the way the Bishop has in mind, or you don't hold up his banter in argument.
It is the religious bed you've made Hemmer.
Like I said, it is Sunday, it is Lent, why are you not in church? If you are going to use the words of it's bishops as justification for your arguments?
To do anything else would be hypocritical.
"Should I ask you why you aren't at a Wiccan service?" I'm not a Wiccan
"Or ACLU meeting?" Not a union member.
"Or conversing on-line with the folks at moveon.org? " Never done it.
"Nope. None of my business." Well then why do you trash those who do?
So again. if you are going to spew Bishop and Church on these blogs, why are you not there this Sunday morning in Lent?
Do you not believe?
Are you only using the comment of the Bishop for your own political arguments here and are not actually putting any faith in what he represents?
Lent is a time for retrospection; perhaps you should do that.
ahemmer - Feb 26, 2012 2:18 PM
Simply because I wrote a blog defending the Catholic Church from the assault by the Obama Administration on the contraception issue doesn't make me a hypocrite. Whether one is Catholic or not didn't matter in that case. What mattered is that Obama was overstepping the government bounds by inserting government into religion.
So, jman99, my religion, and what I do and do not believe, is up to me. As is the case with many religions and other groups. Do you think all conservatives think exactly the same thing? No. All Republicans? No. Democrats....well, could be. Liberals? No. Obamazombies? Yes. The list could go on and on, but you won't back me into a corner and call me a hypocrite (again with the name-calling, I might add). I am not a vocal everything-the-Catholic-Church-does-is wonderful believer. I believe in some of what is put forth, and disagree with other aspects of the church. And I will attend when and if I want to. Again - NONE of your business, so move on.
jman99 - Feb 26, 2012 2:49 PM
Sure it is,when you use that same church and its officers to bolster your political arguments, dragging them out as higher authority than others.
Total hypocrisy on your part Hemmer.