Death Threats so soon!

Yep !! The PDLS's should have stopped it when they were doing it at the Capitol and
to our Governor, Not to mention people like Darling ,and Mckenna !! Where were
you and the other PDLS's then to stop it ?????????????? Will you ever admit that your
PDLS friends started it ? lol... I bet not If you are part of the uninformed take the
time to look it up !! For then you wil;l see that the Conservative/Republicans are by
far the decent choice !!

So WFB you say good ol'e Ted is justified then?

Are you going to use an Axe?

I forgot to add the Black Panthers who put a bounty on the head of an American just
two weeks ago !!! Where are you PDLS's to stop this kind of hatred ?? Again no
answer from the PDLS's !!! For they onlu=y wait for one nut on the other side but do
not notice that 3/4 of the PDLS side area all nuts !!

It is a 100% fact that since the Oklahoma City Bombing and in 2008 after Barak Obama that rightwingers are arming themselves at an alarming rate as well have been the the purveyors of more acts of violence against those the deem enemies.

I'm sure their a small section in your ideology that would like nothing better than to have "liberals" killed.

"I forgot to add the Black Panthers who put a bounty on the head of an American just
two weeks ago !!! "

Actually it was the "New Black Panthers" who have nothing to do with the original "Back Panthers" who put the bounty out.

No they should not have done that.

But then, you have football coaches putting injury bounties on other team's players.

It's America, what can you do.

I think George Zimmerman turned himself in to collect the bounty. He's going to need it to fund his defense. He will probably get off based on the vagueness of the ALEC "stand your ground" law that has been passed by too many states.

In response to almost 1% Hayett.

"You know it, we know it, and most of the Obama voters who are the "takers" and not the "makers" know it too."

So what is it exactly that you "make" Hayett?

name one ? I can name the new black panthers ! Name one right wing group that is
threatening anybody ?

"Name one right wing group that is
threatening anybody ? "

Well, he's not a group, but take Ted Nugent. Please.

""If Barack Obama is elected, I'll either be dead or in jail this time next year,""

Word is he is having a sit down with the Secret Service tomorrow.

There are a few others here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_assassination_threats

Then there is this:
"RIGHT-WING GROUPS: The most recent swell of extremist violence began to emerge from right-wing militants in the late-1980s and 1990s. According to a 2005 FBI report on terrorism, these groups, which are "primarily in the form of domestic militias and conservative special interest causes, began to overtake left-wing extremism as the most dangerous, if not the most prolific, domestic terrorist threat to the country." Right-wing extremists champion a wide variety of causes, including racial supremacy, hatred and suspicion of the federal government, and fundamentalist Christianity. The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks the activities of hate groups, suggests militia groups declined every year since 1996 but have seen a dramatic resurgence since 2008."

from:
http://www.cfr.org/terrorist-organizations/militant-extremists-united-states/p9236

Personally, I would lump in a lot of the militias that seem to roam the back woods and threaten to kill any Feds that come their way.

Others' tolerances may differ on this definition.

In response to almost 1% Hayett.


"So you include yourself in the "makers" but you cannot speak the name of what you make?

You'd think a guy would be proud off his product."

"Name one right wing group that is threatening anybody" American Legislative Exchange Council - ALEC. They are threatening the basic freedoms that this country is founded on.

So you started this topic complaining about the hatred and Rhetoric of certain groups
!! I ask for you PDLS's to name one Republican/Conservative group that does such
vile things !! You can not name one !!!!! Yet I named a PDLS group that does such
vile things !!! HHEEELLOOOO !!@ dep . Do you guys not see how twisted you are yet
? lol... Helloooooooooooo.........lol... Yet you PDLS's blame my side when it is your
side that is corrupt and disgusting ..

As fpor a person .... Lets face it we might have a few like that but you PDLS's have
groups of nuts !!! lol... keep dreaming for that is the only reality you guys have .

In response to Hayett:

"jmann..."takers" are those who "take" from society when in fact they are more than capable of working or trying the American dream of capitalism. Makers are those who are not "takers." Makers don't have to make a widget, etc. They are the working calls who pay their taxes, support their family in good times and bad. The "makers" make it happen. "

So lets investigate this statement.

"Makers don't have to make a widget, etc."

So teachers are Makers, since by your definition, Makers don't actually nave to make a Widget.

"They are the working calls who pay their taxes, support their family in good times and bad. "

Lets see, Teachers go to work each morning, they pay thier taxes ( payroll deductions for taxes) support their families in good times and bad. Ergo, Teachers fit this definition of 'Makers'

"The "makers" make it happen."

Given that teachers fulfill parts one and two of the definition of "makers" and the term "it" is ill defined, ( I'm assuming that this is a nebulous "it" that can assume the form of any activity as long as the first two parts of the definition are fulfilled), then teachers also make "it" happen.

So teachers totally fulfill the roll of "makers" in the Hayett definition of "maker".

So why do the right hate them so?

In response to Hayett:
"Takers only take. "

So lets explore this.

lets, for the sake of argument use the example of a lazy incompetent investment counselor, who skims his clients , who is separated from his family and refuses to pay spousal or child support and is cheating on his taxes.

Would you classify this person as a "taker" or a "maker"?

"lazy, incompetent...cheating on his taxes" - jman

Are you talking about Obama's Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner or Obama's chief trade representative Ron Kirk? Didn't know either was separated but I'll take your word for it.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123187503629378119.html
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/03/obama-kirk-taxe.html

JP - Big difference between saying something and actually doing it. It is also worthy to note that Mitt Romney doesn't hang out with Ted Nugent (who was a huge Ron Paul guy).

As for Obama- his buddies actually blew buildings up, killed people and condemn the US:

''I don't regret setting bombs..... 'I feel we didn't do enough.'' ''Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon,'' "Guilty as hell, Free as a bird" - Bill Ayers

" God Da#! America!" - Rev Wright

"Without mass struggle there can be no revolution. Without armed struggle there can be no victory." "We need a revolutionary communist party in order to lead the struggle, give coherence and direction to the fight, seize power and build the new society." - Bernardine Dohrn

"This type of language and rhetoric will lead to the death of innocent people in our country and assasination of poltical opponents" - JP

You are right. However Ted Nugent was clearly using a metaphor to vote Obama out of office. Obama's extemely close, personal friends used the language you condemn but followed up by blow up buildings, killing people and they continue to plot.

lol... Great job Mucho .jman you are so delusional . I ask do you not understand that
Nugent was referencing the beheading of those on Brave heart (the movie) Pay a
little better attention to what he said ! Better yet get a transcript because your side is
not capable of understanding much with out it being put in the correct box that you
PDLS's deem as correct . As Mucho pointed out , the o is friends with an un
apologizing killer who bombed people here in the USA !!! Yet some how your limited
abilities cause you to not care . Until a Righty references a movie then you stand up
in arms . Jacob also !!! You guys are not able to think rationally on opposing view
points . Please listen to what Nugent said again . But this time pay attention .

Jim -

"we are the highest taxed non-emerging nation" ( source please).

"and raising taxes in times like this is a disaster." ( very true for the middle class, NOT the 1%)

"The rich made it in their own and most are the job creators." (we have been giving tax breaks to the "rich job creators" for the last 30 years - it doesn't work!)

"None of these facts matter to hate filled liberals who only want to attack and take from those who are successful and risked much to get where they are so they can produce jobs and make the economy go." - (First of all, I am not hate filled. Second, you have made my point. We have been giving tax breaks to those successful job (supposed) creators for the last 30 years and what do we have - Major Economic Crisis, (along with the largest disparity in wealth and income since the 1920's).

"All that matters to liberal democrats like Obama is to be a demagogue with issue such as this one so to win the election." - (Demagogue? Come on Jim, we are having a discussion. You know - like point / counterpoint?)

"Buck, we all know who you are. I'm surprised you are this ignorant with these facts that span many years." - (Who am I Jim? Feel free to take my mask off. More importantly, let's not backslide here into using pejorative terms. We are having a good discussion!)

"What has a guy contributed who bought Acme Widget stock at $10 and sold it at $100? Acme never saw that money, so it didnt affect the price or quality of Widgets, did it? What has that fellow done to add value to anyone or anything???"

There's a darn fine question.