Mr. Franklin you were so right.
My wonderful conservative acquaintance, Paula, recently sent out an e-mail with her thoughts on the direction the country has been headed while Obama has been president. She gave me permission to pass on her ponderings. Thanks, Paula!
MR. FRANKLIN, YOU WERE SO RIGHT
We have been hearing that the moment we have more takers than makers in our nation it is all over - usher in a permanent dependency class that has the voting majority. The federal government has been growing the dependency class in many ways with food stamps, welfare, EBT cards, free school breakfast, lunch, and dinner, rent assistance, and heating assistance, to able-bodied citizens forever condemning them to a life with no accomplishment or fulfillment in doing for themselves. Instead they grow more and more envious and bitter that the "rich" have a bigger flat screen than they do. So much potential lost, so many lives lived in limbo - cashing a government check for no effort at all.
As with much of the news today I am saddened to see this article (see below). This is not the course of a nation on the rise, this is the course of a nation in decline and a ruling class that is cheering it all on in the name of "fairness" and "redistribution." I blame many Republicans in addition to the vast majority of the Democrat Party for ensuring a citizenry that owes its vote to the benevolent masters who give them free stuff. I think that of the many statistics I have read recently, this is the most alarming of all.
How anyone with a slightly functioning brain can argue that growing our private sector, creating businesses and thereby jobs as a direct consequence, is unfair to the poor? Fairness, according to Mr. Obama, is taxing "the rich" more and more then giving that money to the poor in the form of government programs. Programs that Mr. Obama will tell you the evil Republicans want to take away if they get the chance. Mr. Obama wants us to believe that giving a tax break to a business owner or corporation who employ our citizens is class warfare. The more successful our businesses the more citizens will need to be employed. And this will trickle down to even more of our citizens that will get jobs to feed, clothe, and provide the products and services the working class will be able to afford in a thriving economy, thereby "lifting all the boats."
Mr. Obama wants us to believe that the dependency class deserves our help and I agree. Let's help them get off the "crack" that is a government check. Let's give them the opportunity to have pride and a sense of accomplishment in providing for themselves, not take what is given by the political elite who live lavish lives removed from the rules and laws the rest of us live under.
Ben Franklin had it right when he said:
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."
Today there are 21,300,000 (yes, that is 21 million) government employees - including a spouse or parent that would likely vote with them - government employees make up 32% of eligible voters in the United States. Think these people will vote for someone that promises smaller government?
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For another update on how Obama is growing the dependent class:
5.4 Million Join Disability Rolls Under Obama by John Merline, Investors Business Daily (4/20/2012)
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34 Comments
MGarber - Apr 23, 2012 7:32 AM
Franklin wasnt wrong, but people have been citing that quote for 40 years now.
jman99 - Apr 23, 2012 8:43 AM
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.""
Exactly, that's what Republicans are doing, they want to vote for tax cuts for themselves so they can have more money.
geno53151 - Apr 23, 2012 9:43 AM
Mucho - Apr 23, 2012 10:38 AM
Well done. The following quotes explain my feelings about Hemmer's point and the use of Ben Franklin to support it:
There's nothing I like less than bad arguments for a view that I hold dear.
- Daniel Dennett
The moment we want to believe something, we suddenly see all the arguments for it, and become blind to the arguments against it.
- George Bernard Shaw
jman99 - Apr 23, 2012 10:57 AM
Franklin was a brilliant man.
He was also a master of the "double entendre" ( having lived in Paris all those years) as was so well demonstrated here.
achieve1 - Apr 23, 2012 11:04 AM
from the unbudgeted tax breaks for the rich to the Banks & Oil subsidies amount
to more than twice any social service programs. We saw exactly what happened
in Bushes world to the middle and lower incomes when they were in power. The
problem with your whole BS story Hemmer is Franklin is talking about YOUR
party and it's ability to manipulate voting. Poor people don't have lobbyist and
super funds to get their welfare but the Koch Brothers and the oil, defense
contractor,and big banks that get more of our tax dollars than the poor do. So
typical of a Republican Zombie like you to support this party even when they
have taken away women's rights. You are a white women who is not even
making enough money to benefit from the republican platform. Your a wanna be
because you look down your nose at the poor and don't want to be associated
with that. Very sad
Mucho - Apr 23, 2012 12:18 PM
Franklin was also a 1%-er and expressed at great length the merits of hard work and self improvement.
Relative to Obama's 2008 campaign slogan I offer this BF quote:
"He that lives upon hope will die fasting."
To the "Occupy" crowd I offer up some more of BF's advice:
http://www.pickthebrain.com/blog/78-timeless-wealth-building-tips-from-benjamin-franklin/
MGarber - Apr 23, 2012 12:49 PM
jman99 - Apr 23, 2012 12:51 PM
"All wars are follies, very expensive and very mischievous ones."
"An investment in knowledge pays the best interest."
"If a man empties his purse into his head, no one can take it from him."
"He that is of the opinion money will do everything may well be suspected of doing everything for money."
This one applies best to Hemmer:
"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do."
jman99 - Apr 23, 2012 12:58 PM
"Ben Franklin's mother, Abiah Folger, was born into a Puritan family among those that fled to Massachusetts to establish a purified Congregationalist Christianity in New England, when King Charles I of England began persecuting Puritans. They sailed for Boston in 1635. Her father was "the sort of rebel destined to transform colonial America";[6] as clerk of the court, he was jailed for disobeying the local magistrate in defense of middle-class shopkeepers and artisans in conflict with wealthy landowners. Ben Franklin followed in his grandfather's footsteps in his battles against the wealthy Penn family that owned the Pennsylvania Colony."
Perhaps more like a 99% by his roots.
MGarber - Apr 23, 2012 1:29 PM
If someone made his money in a un-productive fashion, Im *SURE* he would have thought the man a scoundrel.
But thats just my take (having read his autobiography years ago).
Mucho - Apr 23, 2012 2:27 PM
Clearly he was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth but that fact highlights even more how little BF would approve of the Occupy mentality as evidenced by people like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrPGoPFRUdc
Belieivng that frugality, education, liberty and hard work is the path to success is a theme common to the founding fathers:
"Six days shalt thou labor, though one of the old commandments long treated as out of date, will again be looked upon as a respectable precept; industry will increase, and with it plenty among the lower people; their circumstances will mend, and more will be done for their happiness by inuring them to provide for themselves, than could be done by dividing all your estates among them.” Benjamin Franklin
"There are two ways to enslave a nation. One is by arms. The other is by debt.” - John Adams
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." – Thomas Jefferson
WFB resident - Apr 23, 2012 2:32 PM
But what you seem to not understand is that he is referring in to intellect ! You see it
as money !! If you have not noticed all you received was the money !!
jman99 - Apr 23, 2012 3:04 PM
So are you saying only the 1% do this?
jman99 - Apr 23, 2012 3:34 PM
John Huntsman:
""This is what they do in China on party matters if you talk off script," Huntsman said.
Huntsman, a former Utah governor who dropped out of the GOP primary in January, served as U.S. ambassador to China under President Barack Obama.
He also criticized the Republican candidates' foreign policy stances, particularly in regard to China.
""I don’t know what world these people are living in," Huntsman said.
Although Huntsman did not mention any specific candidates, he has criticized Mitt Romney in the past for his "wrong-headed" approach. Huntsman, who endorsed Romney after dropping out of the race, said in February that the former Massachusetts governor should take a more opportunity-minded view to relations with China."
Now that's going to leave a mark.
WFB resident - Apr 23, 2012 6:43 PM
abuse ? You are showing classic signs ! They do have medications that can help both
of your problems . Just ask . I can point you in the right direction .
ahemmer - Apr 23, 2012 7:45 PM
jman99: I laughed out loud when I read your idiotic statement: "Exactly, that's what Republicans are doing, they want to vote for tax cuts for themselves so they can have more money." Oh my goodness. Do you, jman99, realize that every taxpayer benefited from the Bush tax cuts? Here's a great website which points out what would have happened had the Bush tax cuts been allowed to expire (which thankfully they were not):
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2010/0913/Bush-tax-cuts-101-What-changes-could-be-in-store-for-taxpayers
What is key to this whole discussion is that taxing people is NOT the way to solve the nations economic problems. Those of us that actually pay federal taxes are already taxed high enough. What needs to happen is that our government MUST get smaller. It MUST not spend with reckless abandon. It needs to get out of the "social engineering" - like dump the NEA and EPA. Think of the millions and billions saved right off the bat. There are so many useless, wasteful, and bloated government programs and agencies that simply need to go. Cut the spending. That will solve the problem.
All jman99 and the likes of a Tom Barrett or Kathleen Falk (or any other Dem or lib for that matter) can offer in terms of solving our fiscal crisis is "raise taxes." No. That doesn't solve the problem. The problem is the government is TOO BIG and throws money away. It needs to stop.
Unfortunately, Ben Franklin was right - the lefties have created a huge part of society who is dependent upon the government for their every need. This needs to change, too. There still is hope - but 2012 IS the tipping point.
jman99 - Apr 23, 2012 8:00 PM
400,000 of mystery money to Romney
"In FEC reports made public April 20, Restore Our Future tied the donation -- the super-PAC’s sixth-largest last month -- to Seaspray Partners and included its Palm Beach address. A review of public documents including Florida corporate filings showed Scott DeSano registered the LLC.
DeSano said he didn’t give any money to the super-PAC and said he is the sole owner of the company. "
And then two rich Republicans some up and say oh! just attribute that to me!
Strange.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-04-24/pro-romney-group-to-amend-name-behind-400-000-contribution.html
jman99 - Apr 23, 2012 8:03 PM
jman99 - Apr 23, 2012 8:07 PM
Looks Koch to me:
"The $1 million gift listed from a Huron Carbon LLC was determined to come from the West Palm Beach headquarters of Oxbow Carbon LLC, a fossil-fuel processor and mining firm headed by William Koch, who had already given $1 million to the pro-Romney group."
http://online.wsj.com/article/APa0fc29809feb45ad9b1b22bbcd482474.html