Dual--Darkness and Light
1. Prelude A few of you may have noticed that I've been gone for awhile. Nothing earthshaking but, as someone once observed, "It's not the major disasters that bother me, it's the constant pitter-patter of little defeats." There have been a number of issues at home that have distracted me from this blog, which, you may be surprised to know, is not my main priority. The dust has settled a bit, so I'm back for the moment. (I trust you all have been civil and restrained in your comments, which I have not had the time to monitor.)
There are a number of bloggable subjects, mostly political. Unfortunately, or perhaps fortunately, I'm quite tired of politics at the moment. The tsunami of mendacity that is politics these days has simply turned me off, so for the time being I leave political commentary to those who thrive on it. However, here are two pieces illustrative of the human condition: tragedy and darkness, joy and light.
2. Evil II My last post discussed the "Face of Evil,' my take on the motivation of mass killers of the innocent. I suggested the existence of evil in the world that has rendered certain mercifully few mescreants without a soul, or a conscience if you prefer: an inability to distinguish between right and wrong. Shortly after publication of that post, the horrendous massacre at the Sikh Temple occurred. Following has been a paroxysm of analysis of Mr. Wade Michael Page that persists to this day. I believe this is due at least in part to unacceptance of the existence of pure evil by liberals, who, quite laudably in most cases, try to find an explanation and subsequent corrective action for appalling events. "Given sufficient resources, we can fix anything."
I'm sorry, but I don't believe that. I believe that evil exists as a palpable force among humanity. Mr. Page, skinhead and kook, is posthumously being identified as a really dangerous individual whose conduct should have elicited action. This by some who knew or had contact with him. This is hindsight. His persona and actions, while not mainstream, were not justification for restraint or treatment. He was a skinhead kook and little else. Yet, he took it upon himself to kill several innocent souls, at prayer yet, who simply looked different from him. I believe this man was possessed, not by demons but by a palpable evil. It exists among humanity and impels senseless and grossly inappropriate violence against the innocent.
Christians like me call him Satan. Others harken back to primitive survival instincts not completely suppressed by time. Freud had another explanation, something about the ego. The distinction is subjective. The fact, I believe, remains that a number of individuals commit heinous acts without rational motive or justification in defiance of analysis. This does not deter an army of psychiatrists, psychologists, pundits and barroom analysts from submitting their own "answers". But none of these explanations, when looked at objectively, explain the conduct and indicate effective corrective action. We search in vain for the comfort of closure. We must face the fact that evil as an entity exists in the world today.
I don't have an answer to evil. Perhaps acknowledging it will help, but I sort of doubt it. The only course, in my opinion, is to defend against it with the means at our disposal. I happen to believe that concealed weapon carry could help stop a massacre in progress in a few instances. It can be argued that a Gunfight at the O.K. Corral might do more damage than good, but I do think that the ability to defend oneself in general is a good thing.
Having said that, I, along with the NRA, decry the ease with which Mr. Page, a known skinhead with bizarre beliefs, legally obtained weapons. I, along with all you gun-banners, am not comfortable with lethally-armed nut cases. Restricting assault weapons is useless feel-goodedness. Identifying unstable individuals and barring them from legally purchasing weapons strikes me--and the NRA--as reasonable.
3. To Fly There was a article in Saturday's newspaper about an innovative program at the Milwaukee County Mental Health Complex, instituted by a minister, whereby inmates participate in the raising and release of monarch butterflies. This struck me as a brilliant idea and singularly effective therapy as opposed to most psychiatric treatment which has proven largely ineffective.
My wife, Joan, many years ago came across an article on the monarch butterfly, which is quite unique in the insect world. It has a life cycle that is both fascinating and compact. The whole process of egg to caterpillar to butterfly is consummated in just a few weeks. The article she read described the construction of a "monarch tree" to display the miracle of metamorphosis that takes place in creating this strikingly beautiful and delicate flyer. The brevity of the cycle serves to hold the interest of observers as there are no long lapses of inactivity as is the case with most other butterflies and moths.
The monarch life cycle is unique and miraculous in itself. Monarchs migrate south for the winter along several flyways. At one time, the destination was some unknown place in Mexico. Then someone found the "monarch trees," a grove of large trees festooned with millions of butterflies wintering over. Well-meaning environmentalists and tourists congregated and eventually drove the monarchs away. Now they winter over in Florida and other parts south. In the spring they return, laying eggs on milkweed as they come. The ragged survivors usually don't live long afterwards, having performed their function. Occasionally you might see a bedraggled survivor of the amazing two-way journey. And the life cycle continues. For some reason, monarch population in recent years has fallen off, a sad loss.

Monarch Caterpillar, Chrysalis, Butterfly
Joan proceeded to create this "monarch tree" by placing a dead branch about 2-3 feet high in a coffee can filled with plaster of paris. The large branch had to have many smaller branches. Next, she and some neighborhood enlistees began searching for eggs. The monarch larva feeds exclusively on milkweed, which renders it unpalatable to predators who leave it alone. The egg is a small, black dot which takes a sharp eye to detect. Found, the leaf is detached and placed in a quart Mason jar covered with a piece of cheesecloth held in place with a rubber band. Additional fresh milkweed leaves are added as the original dries up. The eggs quickly--a few days--hatch into a tiny worms--oops, I mean caterpillars. As they consume milkweed and grow, they shed their inelastic skin five times and grow into a two-inch beautiful multi-striped, smooth-skinned caterpillar.
Careful observation over a couple of weeks detects when the caterpillar stops eating. He is now ready to "hang". The caterpillar is removed from the jar and placed on the tree. There, on a branch he begins to weave a small silk nubbin. When done, he turns his rear to the nubbin and a small black hook appears. The hook engages the nubbin and the caterpillar drops, suspended from his hook, and curls into a "J" shape (first image below).
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Monarch Caterpillar to Chrysalis
After a few days, his skin splits and peels back, revealing a beautiful green chrysalis with gold accents. Much wriggling dislodges the shriveled skin leaving just the smooth chrysalis which quickly hardens, suspended from the silk nubbin.
A short time later, the chrysalis darkens and the outline of wings can be seen. It then splits open and the monarch in all its glory emerges.

Monarch Emerging from Chrysalis
At first, its wings are small and shriveled and the body outsize. The butterfly pumps fluid from his body into his wings, filling them out to normal size as his body shrinks. He hangs for a few days as the wings dry, dripping a brown fluid. When dry, he begins to slowly flap his wings, which is a clue that he's ready to fly. Joan and company, myself and the kids included, quickly take the butterfly from his perch on a finger and take him outside. Then comes the greatest moment of all, when a quick movement of the hand launches him into flight. He usually flies a short distance and alights to rest a bit before flying off into the world. Failure to detect the readiness to fly results in chasing down butterflies attached to drapes and curtains.
One incident stands out in my memory. Joan threw herself fully into the "Monarch Project," as was her way. Whether it was knitting, gardening (her 100-foot garden was the wonder of the neighborhood) or butterflies, she never did things half-way. Thus, we had dozens of caterpillars in various stages of development and two good-sized trees full of chrysalids, crawlers and hangers in our kitchen.
One day, she sprayed insecticide on some flies near the kitchen door to the garage which was open. A breeze ws blowing in through the screen door. The insecticide blew over to the monarch station with the trees and jars. Immediately, the caterpillars began wriggling and barfing--yes, barfing--as the insecticide hit them. In a panic, Joan called a neighbor lady and they both began washing caterpillars in warm soapy water. I came in to witness this bizarre scene of two ladies frantically scrubbing insecticide off little green worms. Believe it or not, they saved nearly all of them.
The trees with their little miracles made excellent show-and-tell for our kids and our eldest won a Science Fair first prize for her presentation display. To witness these incredible metamorphoses leading to the wonder of colorful flight was indeed a privilege.
One of you evolutionary biologists has to explain to me how random-chance mutations created this wonderfully complex miracle of nature. I believe this is another of God's gifts of beauty to us poor mortals.
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116 Comments
MGarber - Aug 20, 2012 8:50 PM
Clear, gentle, thoughts flowing as elegantly as any river stream.
I got nothing to add to Part 2 other than:
Im sick of evil. Im sick of people so twisted in whatever possesses them, that its like bees living in their head. Their distorted reality wouldnt be an issue if it wasnt their impact on the rest of us.
I got nothing to add to Part C other than:
TheOccasionalMutation + NaturalSelection (key ingredient!) + Time = some indeed remarkable complexity!
Its truly an amazing world (galaxy)(universe) we're in!
aneuhauser - Aug 21, 2012 1:15 AM
aneuhauser - Aug 21, 2012 1:18 AM
WFB resident - Aug 21, 2012 9:28 AM
with caring for our fellow man ? If so would it not be a better solution to find an
animal with a longer gestation ? Plus one that can be given and taken home to deal
with daily (life expectancy) ? Just wondering .
WFB resident - Aug 21, 2012 3:50 PM
aneuhauser - Aug 21, 2012 5:05 PM
jman99 - Aug 21, 2012 8:33 PM
I blame the folks who profited by having all these people coming to the monarch forest.
That's the way it usually works.
MGarber - Aug 21, 2012 8:45 PM
Maybe it was just bad planning or execution. Maybe the environment was *so* fragile, that just the presence of the initial researchers upset it (it wouldnt be the 1st time). Maybe it was naturally unsustainable (you think man is some kind of special species; that only he can overpopulate a resource??)
WFB resident - Aug 21, 2012 9:39 PM
something and it failed ! We all know this . Now I agree that the butterflies are nice
from afar . I am sorry tho , I can not agree (fully) for that when you look at them
closely they give me the heebeegeebees ! When I was a child my father and I found
a mnammouth butterfly as a caterpillar! It was huge !!! But when it came out . That
was pretty !! Never saw one again . In real life .
ExToDResident - Aug 22, 2012 12:35 AM
does the migration south in fall is the fourth generation and will live for months
and will live long enough to start the migration north again. There were three
generation that only lived for six weeks. Only long enough to lay more eggs.
I think that it is loss of habitat due to development.
ExToDResident - Aug 22, 2012 1:46 AM
your blog. I usually refrain from posting to these blogs lately, since I always seem
to elicit responses that are more inimical and antagonistic then conversational. But
then again that seems to be the extent of conversations as of late
I would also like to say thanks for sharing the memory of the Monarch project.
Mucho - Aug 22, 2012 12:03 PM
Good break from the "lesser of 2 evils" debates that dominate these pages.
aneuhauser - Aug 22, 2012 4:44 PM
ExTo: Thanks for the nice words. (You too, Mucho.) To communicate via the written word is a blessing. We must not lose it. BTW, I once knew but had forgotten about the intervening lives of monarchs. Thanks for reminding me. And, you're welcome. Joan's monarch project is a memory precious to me, especially now.
Mucho: As I said, I'm sick of politics today and will generally avoid it for now. Maybe I'll weigh in a bit closer to the election. And then, maybe not.
WFB resident - Aug 22, 2012 9:28 PM
congregated and eventually drove the monarchs away."
I blame the folks who profited by having all these people coming to the monarch
forest. "
That was another slight against Capitalism ! By the usual PDLS's . I will not allow
those comment to go uncommented ! If you do not see it I can understand that ,but
I see it .
Buck Turgidson - Aug 23, 2012 4:05 PM
What a wonderfully written piece.
Simple attention, the focusing of the mind, can transform the mundane into mystically divine, spectacular beauty. Or, in the words of the poet Robinson Jeffers, "Divinely Superfluous Beauty."
In the Thomas Gospel there is a passage - "Oh Lord, when will the kingdom come?" To which Jesus replied - "The kingdom of heaven will not come by the expectation of man. Rather, the kingdom of heaven is spread upon the earth, but man does not see."
That gospel was not accepted into the canon of the Christian church. I think it was due to the eastern religious, poly-theistic orientation.
Note - He did not say "Man cannot see." But rather “Man does not see.” In the Eastern religious traditions, it is referred to the maya (from the Sanskrit - maya). The veil must first be lifted from on eyes - the focus changed.
I believe man can indeed catch a glimpse of the eternal. But he must first take the time and then learn to refocus the eye. Kind of like those puzzle books, where you change the focus of you eye and the picture is transformed into three dimensions.
With regard to the evil aspect of man - I believe in what Blaise Pascal wrote many years ago; “All of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone.”
Thank you Al for giving us a beautiful peak into the eternal.
WFB resident - Aug 23, 2012 8:05 PM
MGarber - Aug 24, 2012 8:23 AM
I cant help but wonder how Christianity wouldve turned out had Thomas been adopted as canon.
Asside, I had to dig up a quote that Kurt Vonnegut wrote about Bad Chemicals & Bad Ideas being the source of all evil and madness: http://www.vanillafudge.com/journal/messages/archive2/0000090507.htm
Pierre Del Norte - Aug 24, 2012 9:08 AM
Ideation and brain chemistry - a powerful combination.
Thanks for the flashback to K.V. - who I think was one of the most important literary artists of the 20th century.
But the real "Hat Tip" goes to Al, who my Irish mother would say "has the gift."
Thanks again Al.
MGarber - Aug 24, 2012 9:35 AM
WFB resident - Aug 24, 2012 11:36 AM
aneuhauser - Aug 24, 2012 4:10 PM
Buck: I am familiar with the Thomas gospel in name only. I do believe in Heaven as a place, only because Scripture refers to it as such. But I wholeheartedly accept the concept of a heaven--small "H"--in nature around us. I believe beauty, which is essentially impractical and unnecessary for natural function, is a specific gift to us from God. I also agree that too few of us take the time to "smell the roses."
Yes, WFB, I have time to enjoy nature and the summer. My wife is about the same. We get her out on the deck as much as we can. I have a fairly elaborate bird feeding and watering station just outside the kitchen window which is a source of much pleasure, especially in the A.M. Thanks for asking.
MG: As you know from my second section, I believe evil to be a palpable entity on the Earth. I'm afraid chemistry doesn't do it for me. The consequences are too horrendous to be explained by a seratonin deficiency.
Pierre: Thanks to your Irish mother. "May God hold her in the palm of his hand."
Thank you all again for the thoughtful and downright nice responses.
WFB resident - Aug 26, 2012 5:08 PM
stupidity !
ahemmer - Aug 26, 2012 6:18 PM
By the way, just wanted to make the observation that many moons ago, on a previous blog, Pierre Del Norte stated that his mother was French and a Canadian fur trapper. (Yes, I know - funny). It is amusing how his mother has morphed into an Irish lassie....
LOL!!!
Great blog Al. Thanks!
jman99 - Aug 26, 2012 8:41 PM
What a totally evil and insane comment.
How could Hitler and FDR both be liberals?
Is Hemmer calling FDR and Nazi?
Is Hemmer calling Truman a Nazi?
Is Hemmer calling Kennedy a Nazi?
jman99 - Aug 26, 2012 8:46 PM
LOL!!!"
Given that WFB is now writing Hemmer's material, this sad person might be interested to know that the area along the St. Lawrence river is widely populated by people of French Irish decent. There are more read headed French men here than anywhere else.
What a rube.
Pierre Del Norte - Aug 26, 2012 10:59 PM
My sincere apologies. I had no idea Ms. Hemmer would find it necessary to violate your blog space, with your beautiful, peaceful observations and writings, with such coarse remarks.
An unfortunate intrusion.
Ms. Hemmer, it seems, is on a mission to rid the world of people who don't agree with her, or think like her for that matter. Intolerance is at epidemic levels in this country.
Your posts are a respite from the storm.
Oh, by the way, I noticed that she didn't really add anything meaningful to the discussion of your powerful observations.
I'm sorry - other than "Great blog Al. Thanks!"
MGarber - Aug 27, 2012 6:30 AM
Where on earth do they get this stuff???? Seriously. Remember me talking about people with "bees in their head"? If you one can convince themselfs of this nonsense, they can convince themselves of !anything!. Its not off-topic.
WFB resident - Aug 27, 2012 7:53 AM
bamaphd - Aug 27, 2012 8:02 AM
No need to hide behind the "irked or WFB" facade anymore Hemmer.
The jig is up: you managed to out yourself.
Congrats.
WFB resident - Aug 27, 2012 9:54 AM
beauty in nature !
Pierre Del Norte - Aug 27, 2012 11:39 AM
Al’s essay was a remarkable piece juxtaposing the evil of man with the beauty of nature, and reflected on how this profound duality coexists in the world today.
The simple fact remains, the history of mankind is resplendent with the words of gifted writers committing to paper their observations on the divinely spectacular beauty of nature.
History is also replete with examples of horrific evil left unbound. One of those gifted writers just happens to be an Irishman – William Butler Yeats. His poem, The Second Coming, captures it more eloquently than most anyone….
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
So, what "rough beast", whose hour has come, is slouching toward Bethlehem?
The warnings abound like stars in the night –
http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf
And for a meditation worthy of your thoughtful consideration –
http://www.online-literature.com/donne/780/
WFB resident - Aug 27, 2012 1:45 PM
much more ! But I do not consider him the best .
MGarber - Aug 27, 2012 2:43 PM
Im a Usinger man, myself.
Unless you mean Samual Clemens??? Better be very careful; in Elements of Literature for Christian Schools, (Bob Jones University Press, 2001):
"Twain’s outlook was both self-centered and ultimately hopeless. Denying that he was created in the image of God, Twain was able to rid himself of feeling any responsibility to his Creator. At the same time, however, he defiantly cut himself off from God’s love. Twain’s skepticism was clearly not the honest questioning of a seeker of truth but the deliberate defiance of a confessed rebel. "
"Twain presents God as a mere clock-winder of the universe and man as insignificant. Twain also believed that morality and the Bible were human inventions, asserting that men are shaped by environment and education. He states that “to trust the God of the Bible is to trust in an irascible, vindictive, fierce and ever fickle and changeful master.”
aneuhauser - Aug 27, 2012 4:51 PM
Mucho - Aug 27, 2012 5:04 PM
i.e. If God truly loves you - Why did he make you an Atheist?
Easy for you to dismiss, hard for me to figure out. I'll pray on it.
ahemmer - Aug 28, 2012 8:55 AM
"Speaking of shackles. Does anyone see the connection between Wade Michael
Page and the "founding fathers"?
I know, I know, it seems rather extreme, but really, think about it. We know that
Page was a white supremacist. He believed that people of color are inferior to
whites. Does anyone believe that those fine Christian folks who purchased and
enslaved human beings of a different color in order to greatly enrich themselves
thought any differently? Of course not.
Sorry if I've offended any of the proud Tea Party Nationalists. Oops! I mean
Patriots."
GWB: I called you out on that idiotic remark. Personally I don't know why Al would tolerate such a comment, however this is his blog and if he wants to allow a free-for-all, that's up to him.
And Al, I do apologize for also going "off topic" but I could not allow GWB's idiotic comment to go unchallenged.
bamaphd - Aug 28, 2012 9:41 AM
He did not in any way at all.
It is a valid statement that addresses the blog itself.
It is well documented:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_supremacy
It's part of American history.
bamaphd - Aug 28, 2012 9:42 AM
beauty in nature ! "
Only LLC/JS could "oust" Hemmer.
Perhaps that time has come.
bamaphd - Aug 28, 2012 9:46 AM
But not one word from either of you.
jman99 - Aug 28, 2012 10:13 AM
But not one word from either of you. "
Wow.
Good call on that, especially when it happened right in the back yard, so to speak, this time.
Pierre Del Norte - Aug 28, 2012 11:20 AM
Here Ms. Hemmer - please read take this back to your own blog and read it.
http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf
It was written especially for you and your devoted followers.
Now, Al's blog is a very welcome oasis is this desert of barren intellect.
With all due respect, why don't you and your flock of indignant desert birds go back to your roost under that pitiless sun.
And please think twice before you decide to violate Al's precious space.
ahemmer - Aug 28, 2012 11:47 AM
GWB derailed Al's blog by insinuating that the Sikh temple shooter - Wade Michael Page - is somehow related to those of us on the right - or the "Founding Fathers?" He is not. He was simply an evil man who did an evil and horrific deed.
And right back at you, PDN/Buck/Cosette/John Markham with your words: "And please think twice before you decide to violate Al's precious space. "
The lefties do tend to garbage up whatever blogs they comment on. I find Al's blog to be ripe with the same usual nonsense and hatred from the left - which Al allows. I don't. We disagree on that point, and if Al wants his blogs to turn into a free-for-all, so be it.
And guys, please get over implying I am posting under "WFB" or "Irked" or whatever. I comment under one name (one IP) - the one you see: ahemmer. I guess those who feel the need to use mulitple monikers can't understand it, but I have no reason whatsoever to even try to post under other names. Why? And if you don't believe me, feel free to inquire to the folks at livinglakecountry.com or the Urinal/Sentinel. Otherwise, put your boring claim to rest. It's getting old, aside from the fact that it is not true. Never has been and never will be.
Now, I suggest that Al get his blog back and focus on the topic.
jman99 - Aug 28, 2012 12:10 PM
Ok That's funny. They could not even prevent a WFB and Irked post on the same day, so they supposedly have super duty prevention measures that will keep you from doing the same?
Not likely.
Pierre Del Norte - Aug 28, 2012 12:41 PM
I really feel a need to try and make it up to you for that last post.
We all need a sacred place in our lives. A place where we can go when the burdens of life have worn us down - A place where we can rest and give our souls a chance to “catch-up.”
It can be anyplace that is far, far away from that incessant chirping of those indignant desert birds and the heat of their pitiless sun.
That place can be a cabin in the woods, a mountain top, the sanctuary inside a place of worship, the shore of a pristine lake, or the web log of a gifted writer and observer of life.
Then again, it can simply be a place we go on our journey inward, that hero’s journey deep in our own hearts.
The history of mankind is the history of man’s search for his own spiritual identity. Whether it is in the caves of Lascaux in France, the Temple of Kukulkan at Chichen Itza, or simply a pew inside St. Patrick’s Cathedral – the message is the same. Man most certainly has a spiritual dimension to his temporal existence and, most certainly, a need to connect with what we shall simply call – his soul.
I would like to share one of my places with you now. It is an Island in the middle of Lough Gill in county Sligo, Ireland. And, I will let another gifted writer (like you Al) take you there…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ptVEZ0vEEE&feature=fvwrel
Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum, mi amigos.
And most especially you, Al Neuhauser!
Pierre Del Norte
Pierre Del Norte - Aug 28, 2012 12:49 PM
You know that Department started under President Bush to keep us all safe.
I am sure it will clear-up your confusion on the topic.
http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf
Best regards,
Pierre
ahemmer - Aug 28, 2012 6:00 PM
Abide by your own words, guys - try getting back on topic. I know it's difficult when you'd rather go after me, but I'll leave now for good, out of respect for Al.
Now, behave. Try discussing Al's blog. Stop "violating Al's precious space" if you have an ounce of decency.
Pierre Del Norte - Aug 29, 2012 10:05 AM
Thank you Ms. Hemmer. Let it never be said that you are without an once of decency.
WFB resident - Aug 29, 2012 2:51 PM
correct for she is not here to teach you .
MGarber - Aug 30, 2012 7:52 AM
Of course you do, Amy; its your nature.
"The lefties do tend to garbage up whatever blogs they comment on."
Of course you think that; its your nature. Conservatives never litter a blog with pointless, unreadable comments.
".........but I'll leave now for good, out of respect for Al"
ITS MILLER TIME!
WFB resident - Aug 30, 2012 8:16 AM
Dumocrats bashing women again !!
jman99 - Aug 30, 2012 1:58 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/08/30/genome-mysterious-extinct-human-completed-scientists-say/
"However, scientists recently revealed another group of extinct humans once lived at the same time as ours. DNA from fossils unearthed in Denisova Cave in southern Siberia in 2008 revealed a lineage unlike us and closely related to Neanderthals. The precise age of the Denisovan material remains uncertain — anywhere from 30,000 to 80,000 years of age.
"The Denisovan genome is particularly close to my heart, because it was the first time that a new group of extinct humans was discovered and defined just from DNA sequence evidence and not from the morphology of bones," Pääbo said."
It happens Al, but the time scales are not biblical, they are astronomical.
WFB resident - Aug 30, 2012 3:13 PM
Pierre Del Norte - Aug 31, 2012 11:48 AM
On our first trip to Cancun, my wife and I spent a day at Chichen Itza, which was the economic, cultural and religious center for the Yucatec Maya. We had the opportunity to join a guided tour that was led by a retired professor of history from one of Mexico’s universities. He took great pride in referring to these ancient Maya as “his people.”
Although this site is most famous for “El Castillo” – the great pyramid – also known as the Temple of Kukulkan, it was “El Caracol” - the observatory – which I found even more interesting.
There, our guide drew our attention to a date, carved into a wall, which would translate to August 24, 1987 based on our Gregorian calendar.
Then our guide asked if anyone knew the significance of that date. I was the first to answer. Being in the investment business, I mentioned that date corresponded to the peak of the stock market prior to the collapse in October that year.
As true as that was, it was not the answer he wanted. For those who are old enough to remember, the answer he was looking for was “The Grand Harmonic Convergence” - a rare alignment of 8 planets known as a Grand Trine. That event made the front cover of Time Magazine.
This event was recorded because of its very ominous nature. As our guide explained – it was a warning to head for the hills.
One point that he also made was – If you were to ask people today the question - “What causes the phases of the moon?” A few would say – “the shadow cast by the earth.” Most would say – “I really don’t know.”
The Mayan people of the Yucatan would certainly know.
To quote Shakespeare’s Hamlet – “There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.”
WFB resident - Aug 31, 2012 6:30 PM
human ? Kind of like the pictures that connect ape with man in a made up
evolutionary line published in most text books for over 70 years !!
jman99 - Aug 31, 2012 9:36 PM
First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.
And the US version:
First they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came
I hope this puts to rest just who the NAZI were and what they represented.
WFB resident - Aug 31, 2012 11:17 PM
the PDLS's/media said racists ! We told you he never ran anything the PDLS's/media
said racists ! Back during the Nazis time the media told the people that Hitler was
great ! The media told all that He is smart ! The media told us that those crooks he
is surrounded with are not crooks ! The media told us he was a community organizer
! The media told us that our leader would take care of us ! The media told us that
others were to blame ! Now try to discern whom was talked about ? For they work
for both ! Funny how the nazis resemble the Dumocrats in many ways ! Even to
trying to be socialists ! I hope that straightened jman out . I doubt it for his media
will tell him not to listen to others !
Pierre Del Norte - Sep 02, 2012 2:36 PM
On our first trip to Cancun, my wife and I spent a day at Chichen Itza, which was the economic, cultural and religious center for the Yucatec Maya. We had the opportunity to join a guided tour that was led by a retired professor of history from one of Mexico’s universities. He took great pride in referring to these ancient Maya as “his people.”
Although this site is most famous for “El Castillo” – the great pyramid – also known as the Temple of Kukulkan, it was “El Caracol” - the observatory – which I found even more interesting.
There, our guide drew our attention to a date, carved into a wall, which would translate to August 24, 1987 based on our Gregorian calendar.
Pierre Del Norte - Sep 02, 2012 2:39 PM
On our first trip to Cancun, my wife and I spent a day at Chichen Itza, which was the economic, cultural and religious center for the Yucatec Maya. We had the opportunity to join a guided tour that was led by a retired professor of history from one of Mexico’s universities. He took great pride in referring to these ancient Maya as “his people.”
Although this site is most famous for “El Castillo” – the great pyramid – also known as the Temple of Kukulkan, it was “El Caracol” - the observatory – which I found even more interesting.
There, our guide drew our attention to a date, carved into a wall, which would translate to August 24, 1987 based on our Gregorian calendar.
WFB resident - Sep 03, 2012 8:37 PM
not in unions !!! lol...
MGarber - Sep 04, 2012 1:22 PM
great !"
That was mainly the The Dearborn Independent - owned by, and at the behest of, Henry Ford. One of most biggoted and fascist people you'd ever find.
I also suggest: "IBM and The Holocaust" by Edwin Black. It was just about doing business. Riiiiight.
WFB resident - Sep 04, 2012 4:34 PM
to mention the New York Times backed Hitler !! It was not only businesses . It was
the USA Government that helped and backed up Hitler also !!! I bet Garbers
ancestors backed Hitler also !! Do you have proof that they did not Garber ? I do not
mean after 1941 either . I am reffering to the period before 1941 . In other words
the American people backed Hitler prior to 1938 as a whole .
jman99 - Sep 04, 2012 5:00 PM
the American people backed Hitler prior to 1938 as a whole . "
Are you insane?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln_Brigade
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Sectarian_Anti-Nazi_League
jman99 - Sep 04, 2012 5:13 PM
http://www.fdrheritage.org/vanden_heuvel.htm
aneuhauser - Sep 04, 2012 5:47 PM
One other comment: Everything is context. Slaveholding in this country was once accepted and slaves were in general well-treated, the reason being they were valuable, not only because of their cost, but because of their contribution to the success of the enterprise. This was not always the case, unfortunately, but there is always abuse (not to excuse it). Slavery was common in Biblical times also, with the same caveats, Cecil B. DeMille notwithstanding. (PLEASE, I am not condoning the practice of slavery, just referencing the context.)
There was a time before WW II when Germany was not a "bad guy." There were many citizens of German extraction in this country who were sympathetic to Hitler and his efforts to right the German economy and "get the trains running on time." Only later did his true nature surface. My parents belonged to a German social organization called the German-American Bund,. They left when brown shirts, swastikas and "Heil Hitlers" appeared.
Everything is context, even the Bible.
WFB resident - Sep 04, 2012 6:51 PM
MGarber - Sep 04, 2012 7:39 PM
Dear Sir or Madame,
I wish to request that the blog commentor known as "WFB resident" be banned for violation of the Discussion Guidelines. If I could direct you to the blog of Al Neuhauser (whom I have the utmost respect for) and the sequential comments on:
- WFB resident at Aug 31, 2012, 11:17PM
- MGarber (myself) at Sep 04, 2012 1:22 PM
- WFB resident - Sep 04, 2012 4:34 PM
Inasmuch as I lost ancestors in the holocaust (and yes, can prove it) I cannot
describe the nauseous revultion I have for such a statement as he made. Jim
Hayett claims that a commentor (Piere Del Norte) was banned for "vile and
disgusting filth". Inasmuch as you seemingly have censor software in place, I
cant imagine anything more vile than what "WFB resident" spewed, that could
pass.
Sincerely
MGarber
MGarber - Sep 04, 2012 7:41 PM
Bad ideas!
Together, they're a "palpable entity" enough for me, Al.
ExToDResident - Sep 05, 2012 1:47 AM
which set prices. The Nazi's took over the unions to control the cost of labor for the
industrialist. The Germans achieved capacity employment of capital and labor by
1937.
The Fascist under Mussolini worked under under a similar system with the cost of
labor controlled for the benefit of the industrialist.
MGarber - Sep 05, 2012 8:41 AM
They were very unusual, Al. The Bund (!HUGE! In Milwaukee) were the defacto anti semetic American fascists. http://www.traces.org/americanbund.html
My grandparents lived downstairs from a very friendly German couple. In the 30's the couple got a showrtwave radio so they could listen to Hitler's speeches, and their attitude quickly turned to total animosity aginst my jewish grandparents.
WFB resident - Sep 05, 2012 9:44 AM
shirt following like Al's family did ! Most in this country did not ! They followed it till
1942 !! Like todays media , the nazis media only made news of what it wanted the
PDLS's (then and now) to know . They also branded the jews as anti prosperity and
wanting to hurt others ! (just like the dums now who say that o is doing it correctly
and the Republicans want to hurt you) . Garber stated it was huge in Milwaukee.
What he is not saying is that it was huge throughout this country . New York city was
the largest Nazi following in the USA . By the way many jews were Nazis !! You
should have seen many of them fighting along side the non jewish Germans . Do you
know who said this ? Republicans want dirty air and water ! Or that Republicans
want to throw the elderly off of Medicare ? lol... Justin stop bearing your grand
parents problems . That was two generations ago ! By the way are you german in
your genes Justin (jman99) ? I bet they and you are . By the way the 6 million jews
who died was a trajedy ! But so were the 35 million German who parished !! All
because of a following in as leader who promised to make a change ! Familliar ?
ExToDResident - Sep 06, 2012 1:52 AM
Governership is an interesting read.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governorship_of_Mitt_Romney#section_19
I am with Carl; Gary Johnson for president!!
A true fiscal conservative, that didn't take off 212 days of his last year as governor
like Romney did. Gary even left his state with a budget surplus unlike Romney!
http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/front
ExToDResident - Sep 06, 2012 2:03 AM
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Johnson
WFB resident - Sep 06, 2012 8:24 AM
ExToDResident - Sep 06, 2012 5:55 PM
ExToDResident - Sep 06, 2012 6:49 PM
WFB resident - Sep 06, 2012 8:13 PM
WFB resident - Sep 07, 2012 1:12 PM
you-didnt-build-that/ lol...
aneuhauser - Sep 07, 2012 5:33 PM
aneuhauser - Sep 07, 2012 5:41 PM
WFB resident - Sep 07, 2012 7:49 PM
holocaust and am sorry if it seemed that I did .
WFB resident - Sep 07, 2012 8:34 PM
MGarber - Sep 08, 2012 9:16 PM
WFB. I would probably have accepted your appology, had you given it.
WFB resident - Sep 09, 2012 12:36 AM
MGarber - Sep 09, 2012 8:16 AM
Dear Sir or Madame,
It has been about a week since I contacted you regarding the incident described below. While Al Neuhauser has graciously and sincerely appologized for something he had no control over (and I understand he's been occupied with more important issues), Im very much surprised I've had no reply from lakenews@jcpgroup.com.
While I knew that the official banning of commentor "WFB resident" was a longshot, Im dissapointed that you didnt see fit to reply in any manner whatsoever. Among the other possibilitites were:
* Your explanation that there IS no official banning protocol.
* Your forwarding of the letter to Al, and cc'ing myself to inform me of it's progress.
* Expressing your opinion that my complaint is groundless.
* Expressing your opinion that, yes, WFB is indeed a pantload, and "over the line", but for various reasons, he will be immune from consequences.
Its possible that the 2nd case above is what largely happened, resulting in Al's appology, but somehow I suspect not.
Dissapointed, but sincerely
MGarber
(previous email attached)
WFB resident - Sep 09, 2012 8:34 AM
jman99 - Sep 09, 2012 9:11 AM
I suspect this is true.
You left out one possibility: WFB is a sock puppet of one of the "blog artists" here and cannot be removed without consequence to lakenews@jcpgroup.com.
I have long suspected this as well. One would have to look at which one would have the most to loose when exposed and thus the one who would threaten the most with a law suit if public reprimand was taken and enforced.
That person already has a history of legal threats and actions.
WFB resident - Sep 09, 2012 9:48 AM
comments ! Same with the letter above . What was so bad ? Like I said if I did
offend it was not intentional . (Unlike the o platform) So if you wish for me not to say
something offensive . Please inform me on what that was .
MGarber - Sep 09, 2012 5:20 PM
"Please inform me on what that was . "
Go back and read for yourself.
"How about intent ?"
Intent doesnt enter into it, as no one can be sure of what your intent really was.
ExToDResident - Sep 09, 2012 5:31 PM
as much of eastern Europe as he wanted to as long as it was done peacefully and
not aggressively. Also conservative bankers like Prescott Bush financed the Nazi/
Hitler until the accounts were seized in 1942.
http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar?
cat=world&type=article
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics
MGarber - Sep 10, 2012 9:29 AM
Good morning,
We host the blogs on our site, but we do not own the blogs, nor do we regularly moderate them. The bloggers -- and their readers -- often express opinions not everyone agrees with, and unless those comments cross far over the line into personal attacks, we generally do not interfere -- particularly since the bloggers themselves have the ability to remove comments they deem inappropriate.
Debi Eimer
Managing editor
(To which I replied):
"Thank you for your reply.
My takeaway is that the accusation that my family (jewish, with relatives lost
in the camps) were nazi sympathisers does not quite "cross far over the line". "
I was interrested in uncovering what the official policy is once one does actually "cross far over the line", and ascertain just what that "line" is, but I guess it will remain a mystery.
ExToDResident - Sep 10, 2012 12:56 PM
the ability to remove comments they deem inappropriate."
It would appear that lake news has, as suspected, no official policy for policing the
blog. The statement above indicates that it is the blog hosts themselves are
responsible for policing their own blogs and lake news has a hands off policy unless
things truly get out of hand. (is it even possible to have an online riot)
We all know what this suggests what the truth is concerning some hosts on this
site.
Two things if lake news doesn't own the blogs then who does? (owned by the blog
host???) Then who does and do they moderate the blogs?
WFB resident - Sep 10, 2012 2:15 PM
First off Sorry Al . As for ex . Some people believe in freedom of speech ! That
includes ideas or thought . As for Garber . I apologized and am soory that you feel
that way. I understand that you feel like I questioned your beliefs but I was not
aware of your way at looking at what I wrote . In your way of thinking you assumed
I marginalized you and your family . I did not, and If you see it that way is why I
apologized . As for attacking me on what you saw in my comment . I am going on
from this . I will watch in the future foir this kind of censorship from those who do
not truly get what I meant . Which was at all times no ill will . Have a good day and
feel better please .
ExToDResident - Sep 10, 2012 6:14 PM
I concur, some do believe in freedom of speech. However as indicated by the reply
that MGarber posted which clearly shows that some hosts apparently do not.
MGarber - Sep 10, 2012 7:00 PM
Well, lets take a look at what you wrote:
"I bet Garbers ancestors backed Hitler also !!"
Sounds pretty plain to me.
Dont you DARE appologize for something you thought *I* did.
WFB resident - Sep 10, 2012 10:05 PM
today . Usually they give a call , but these flew by quietly and some what low . That
was a wonderous site .
MGarber - Sep 11, 2012 8:49 AM
ExToDResident - Sep 11, 2012 1:43 PM
very isolationist at that time and had no desire to get involved in what was going on
in Europe. There were also interventionist who were aware of what the lose of the
UK would mean. From the begining Hitler was seen as the bigger threat with the
Japanese the secondary goal.
The Americans that did help the Germans were the big bankers who were aiding in
helping the Germans rebuild their economy after WW1. People like Prescott Bush
(G W Bush's grandfather) who held accounts for Nazis until they were seized by the
government in 1942.
WFB resident - Sep 11, 2012 1:49 PM
to understand the way I wrote it . But since you clearly do not want to just end it . I
am fine with that , But lets start it on another blog for Al is not willing to destroy his
calm place . I agree with that also . Ex your last comment is not truthfull ! Not until
after 42 !!!! Ask when the war started and when the US sent troops !
MGarber - Sep 11, 2012 2:55 PM
No, it is now obvious that you are not a decent enough person, much less man enough to do the right thing. I will try to say no more on the subject, unless asked.
Ex's abbreviated version is not wrong.
WFB resident - Sep 11, 2012 3:55 PM
apologize for things I did not control !n ? Get over the war !
ExToDResident - Sep 11, 2012 6:22 PM
No one is asking you to apologize for WW2!
However once again you appear incompetent enough to apologize for something
you said.
It is amazing how quickly you can transition from being semi-astute to obstinately
obtuse.
WFB resident - Sep 11, 2012 9:24 PM
"Guys I do not apologize for what happened !"
No, it is now obvious that you are not a decent enough person, much less man
enough to do the right thing. I will try to say no more on the subject, unless asked."
My prior comment was on WWII !!!! Why would I apologize for WWII ? SO ex he did
point out thast I did not apologize and called me not a decent person !! Read it again
ex !! lol...
WFB resident - Sep 11, 2012 9:27 PM
is me attitude !!
WFB resident - Sep 11, 2012 9:28 PM
beautiful !! lol...
Carl Hicks - Sep 12, 2012 1:50 AM
this,site.
WFB resident - Sep 12, 2012 8:35 AM
sort of bug in its net ! Now that uncovers a mystery !! lol...
aneuhauser - Sep 12, 2012 5:21 PM
While I do not discourage digression from the post subject, this WW II business is a "bridge too far." Please drop it. WFB, you seem to be obsessed with having the last word. Show some maturity and back off. This goes for some of your responders also.
Pierre, you seem to have offended someone who has blocked you. It wasn't me. I am not in sympathy with blanket blocking and have in the past countered it by "accepting" the flagged comments that meet my rather loose standards. Your comments that were flagged, especially the long one, were by no means objectionable. I have countermanded that one. You are more than welcome on this blog. I will try to be more diligent in my monitoring from now on and will in general "accept" your comments..
Overall, I am disappointed in the poorly-veiled nastiness of several of the comments. Please, folks, have respect for others and keep it civil. Even if you find a comment that bugs you, respond with dignity. (That's a word for my "Dictionary of Lost Words.") As the Desiderata wisely admonishes, "Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story."
WFB resident - Sep 12, 2012 9:59 PM
do not have the last word . lol...
Pierre Del Norte - Sep 12, 2012 10:42 PM
As far as I know, it has only been that Ms. Hemmer who has flagged my posts. I
hope she hasn't figured out a way to monitor your blog too.
I was hoping this WWII discussion would subside. I tried to get WFB to apologize
to you and MG so we could move on..
No luck with that.
aneuhauser - Sep 13, 2012 3:41 PM
Pierre: A blanket block, "flagging", applies to all blogs. I can override by accepting flagged comments, which I did in your case. Sometimes this cancels the flag for my blog, which seems currently to have occurred. I disapprove of flagging on principle and typically defeat it for my blog as described. I will continue to do that for comments I consider not objectionable by my rather loose standards. You are welcome on my blog.
Pierre Del Norte - Sep 13, 2012 4:41 PM
You are a very good man!
As we say south of the Iberian Peninsula - "Muchas Gracias Amigo!"
Pierre Don Diego Del Norte