The Religion of Peace
I watched and read several commentaries, memorials and tributes associated with the 11th anniversary of 9/11 last Tuesday. Remembering the victims certainly is appropriate, but nowhere did I find a single reference to who did it. I know we're trying very hard to not offend Muslim sensitivities, which seems not to be working all that well, witness the deadly outrage at the U.S. embassy in Libya and violent demonstrations in Egypt. Seems like the Arab Spring has turned to winter. Some of us felt all along that it was less an expression of democracy and more a power play by radical Islamic elements. Sadly, it appears we may have been right.
We have, or at least had, a tendency to heap scorn on the 19 or 20 perpetrators of the destruction of the WTC twin towers and concurrent murder of thousands of innocents. We usually picture terrorists as wild-eyed ignorant fanatics blowing themselves up. Yet, the 9/11 perpetrators were generally well-educated mostly Saudi men, some of them professionals. However, they chose to immolate themselve in a blatant attack on the U.S. Their motivation was their fervent religious belief, a belief that includes destroying obstacles to the spread or Islam. (The Koran does encourage persuasion but also condones violent and deadly destruction of obstacles to the propagation of the faith.)
These men were simply firm believers in their religion, generally a desirable chracteristic. They felt compelled to martyr themselves in support of that religion, also not really a bad thing when you consider the fate of the Christian apostles. They, however, felt justified in taking many innocent lives with them. Osama bin Laden, the architect of 9/11, was a respected and well-educated professional man as well as a fervent believer. Make no mistake, these people are not kooks, which makes this paradigm even more dangerous.
So, where is the evil in all this. Certainly this was an evil act, considering the loss of innocent life. Was it in the act itself or those who perpetrated it? No, the act in itself was not evil, but the Wahhabist form of radical Islam that justified the act is the true evil. The perpetrators died for their faith. I don't blame them, but then who is to blame? Let us take a look at this faith.
Islam and Christianity have common roots. The Biblical Old Testament is the basis of much of the Koran. The Old Testament contains accounts of bloody violence, a fact frequently pointed out to me, even to the extent of the massacre of women and children. I'm not going to try to justify these historical events. Theologians have twisted themselves into knots trying. The fact is, they happened. But that was then and this is now.
Recall also that Christianity and Islam worship the same Diety. Allah is just another name for God. So, why does radical Islam kill and destroy to defend and spread its faith while Christianity, with the same imperative to spread the faith, does not? The difference is that Christianity is based on the New Testament, the life and ministry of Jesus Christ. Mohammad is not Jesus. Islam does not have the benign persuasion characteristic of present-day Christianity. (Judaism is another case which I will neglect for now.) We send out missionaries, they--the Wahhabists and their sympathizers--send out bombers.
Why us? What did we ever do to Islam to earn their enmity? The simple truth is, it's our very existence. Remember, Islam demonizes obstacles to the spreading of the faith. The United States, a very successful, rich and extremely powerful Christian (mostly) nation, is a powerful symbolic obstacle to the world-wide spread of Islam. Israel, as a successful Jewish nation in the desert of the Middle East, is another hated symbol of non-Islamic success. However, Israel is small and not nearly the equal of the U.S. It's no accident that Israel is known in the Islamic world as the "Little Satan," but the U.S is known as the "Great Satan." WE are the big problem for expansionist, radical Islam. Thus, we are the target. The Atlantic Ocean and vigilent security measures have protected us for some time, but cannot be depended on to shield us indefinitely.
We must recognize that our enemy, radical, Wahhabist Islam, not a small group by any means and growing, considers our very existence an abomination. As the Israelis know, this enmity will never end. Certainly not all Muslims subscribe to this aggressive form of Islam, just as there are many different Christian denominations, but the radical element is strong and relentless and, sadly, frequently enjoys the tacit approval of the non-violent sects of Islam.
I have no happy ending. But we endanger ourselves by letting down our guard. Apologetics and appeasements will not work. The problem is not what we do, it is us. We would do well not to forget that on this anniversary of the most successful terrorist attack ever.
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66 Comments
WFB resident - Sep 17, 2012 3:41 PM
only dragon I see is the PDLS's way of living . But even that I have no bneed to
defeat it . For it is going to defeat itself !! lol...
Carl Hicks - Sep 18, 2012 12:01 AM
As to my give them one comment...like I said, remind them we have 20,000 so
use your one very wisely...'cause you'll never use another after the one.
aneuhauser - Sep 18, 2012 1:00 AM
WFB resident - Sep 18, 2012 7:07 AM
showing them 200 ? What will stop them from dismantling the one you gave them
and using it to build hundreds ? Your analogy is so child like that I am dumbfounded,
that a gr--n up would believe such a thing !
Pierre Del Norte - Sep 18, 2012 10:36 AM
Let's all step back from this discussion of hate, terrorism, religion, politics and put it all into a much larger context.
"Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;" WB Yeats, The Second Coming 1919
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXe6JakBwkk
What revelation is at hand?
Who's hour has come around at last?
What events did Yeats foresee in 1919?
Pierre Del Norte - Sep 18, 2012 11:29 AM
Unlike the winged dragon or the feathered serpent, you are hopelessly bound to your temporal existence, truly incapable of soaring in spiritual flight.
I would suggest that you work a little more overtime so you can go out and buy some more stuff with which you can surround yourself – and find your peace and happiness.
As for the rest of Al’s loyal followers, I would strongly encourage a well-developed spiritual life because this material life will not be worth a tinker’s dam for quite some time.
And for you WFB, just remember this – The pain you will experience is only equal to your inability to let go.
Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum – mi amigos.
jman99 - Sep 18, 2012 12:01 PM
Loss of the old order of things. Remember 1919, the war had ended; Versailles was the meeting of minds and the League of Nations was utopian.
And it would all fall apart, this great chance to change the world, because of self interests.
And another war would follow, and another after that, and another after that.....
WFB resident - Sep 18, 2012 12:18 PM
are assuming ? Plus what work overage are you talking about ? Plus why do you
assume I am not able to fly with m,y spiritual life ? Your comments are full of
speculations that you wish to be true or they are what your family shows you .
(Dante at his finest) ! lol... What is Miami go's ? lol...
Pierre Del Norte - Sep 18, 2012 1:44 PM
There has been much speculation as to what he was referring. WWI had just ended.
Ireland itself had experienced the Easter Rising of 1916 and he could have been referring to the political and military tensions leading up to the civil war of 1922.
Yeats himself was strong supporter of Irish independence.
I think he is clearly talking about cycles with the "turning and turning in the widening gyre." We know Yeats was an astute astrologist. The great astrological year is roughly 25,000 years and is comprised of procession of 12 astrological ages - each lasting about 2000 years.
Astrologers today believe we are on the "cusp" of the transit from the age Pisces into the new age of Aquarius. It is generally believed that the last cusp was coincident with the birth of Christ when the earth transited from Aries (the Ram) to Pisces (the Fish).
Judeo-Christian religions are full of astrological references. The Lamb (Ram) of God, the Christian Symbol (fish/Pisces), Easter is always the first Sunday following the first full moon following the vernal equinox, ...etc., etc., etc.
"Twenty centuries of stoney sleep" - We are on the cusp, mi amigos. The death of the old age and the birth of the new. The old falls apart and, like a new-born lamb, the coming age struggles to find it's footing.
The evolution of man is not a straight line. It is marked by fits and starts. We think we are so advanced yet we so quickly resort to tribal impulse.
Oh, by the way, the ancient Maya knew what was coming as well.
Pax Domini, mi amigos, Pax Domini.
aneuhauser - Sep 18, 2012 4:12 PM
From now on, you are permanently banned from my blog. You are the first with whom I have done this, and I hope the last. I have rejected all your comments.
I am truly sorry.
Bernie Ziebart - Sep 18, 2012 9:27 PM
quran Chapter:2 Verse:193
And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and non-Islamic behavior, discussion, politics, or religion) and religion and politics is only for Allah. But if they cease, let there be no hostility except against infidel disbelievers."
bukhari Volume:1 Book:8 Number:387
Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'No one has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah."
osama bin laden (may 1998)
"I am one of the servants of allah. We do our duty of fighting for the sake of the religion of allah. It is also our duty to send a call to all the people of the world to enjoy this great light and to embrace islam and experience the happiness in islam. Our primary mission is nothing but the furthering of this religion."
quran Chapter:61 Verse:9
He it is Who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the religion of truth, that He may make it conqueror of all religions however much idolaters may be averse.
An Islamic protest covered in England.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8CKNEFJrW8
Bernie Ziebart - Sep 18, 2012 9:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiSqnjRkgpM&feature=related
aneuhauser - Sep 19, 2012 12:39 AM
Pierre Del Norte - Sep 19, 2012 12:26 PM
Here is my problem with the more fundamentalist religions. When reading or interpreting religious symbols or texts, they tend to concretize (as in concrete) the object.
For example – When you go into a restaurant and study the menu, and you find an entrée that sounds particularly appetizing, you don’t rip that description out of the menu and eat it.
When you concretize religious symbols it is reduced to – “What you see is what you get.” In symbolic logic, particularly religious symbolism, the symbol is ALWAYS meant to OPEN UP – to allow you to pass through and experience what is on the other side. They are to act as a gateway to open your mind and heart to allow for a “transformation of consciousness. “
For an example - In the Catholic tradition there are a lot of statues. People unfamiliar with that tradition would think Catholics are praying to that statue of the Virgin Mary. That would be concretizing the symbol.
The same is true with the reading of sacred texts. Is the Bible, or Koran, meant to be read “literally”? Or, was it meant to be read “contextually”? The more mature religions read them contextually.
Keep in mind, these texts were written in the language of the Guru. Part of our problem is that our Western Civilization is rooted in Aristotelian logic. For example – His followers ask, “Oh Lord, where can we find your kingdom?” An Aristotelian response would be – “Oh, you mean Heaven? Just get on a space ship, travel to the Galaxy Zork, take a left, then travel 200 billion light years and it will be on your right – you can’t miss it.”
Do you get my point? That is why people are still being stoned to death in the middle-East. That is why we still have Religious homophobes in the United States.
If you are looking for the root cause for many of our world problems today – just follow the sacred.
WFB resident - Sep 19, 2012 12:49 PM
to destroy those that follow . Just look at Progressives (on the left ) ! When Bush
was in office they said to cause problems for our goverment is good for our
goverment . Now thast the o is in office . I do not see one l-Progressive trying to
cause problems for the o . They are ,but they are not trying . Why ? Yes I believe
that norte's beliefs are religious to him ! lol...
Bernie Ziebart - Sep 19, 2012 2:52 PM
A Pakistani businessman, Haji Nasrullah Khan, was arrested for refusing to participate in the riots over the weekend.
The protesters claimed Khan insulted the Prophet while arguing with them, said city police chief Fareed Jan. But he said there was no evidence to suggest the insults really occurred and that police only opened a blasphemy case because they were pressured by the mob. Opening such a case doesn’t mean the person is necessarily charged with the crime but that police are investigating him or her.
Protesters ransacked Khan’s house, and surrounded a police station, refusing to go away until officials opened a blasphemy case, police officer Munir Abbasi said.
The situation became even more inflamed when religious leaders from one of the biggest mosques in the city issued an edict calling for Khan’s death and announced from the mosque’s loudspeakers that he should be killed, Abbasi said.
Under Pakistan’s blasphemy laws, anyone found guilty of defiling the holy book, or Quran, or insulting Islam’s Prophet Muhammad can face life in prison or death.
Critics say the laws are often abused to harass non-Muslims or to settle personal rivalries. Radical Islamist groups have been behind most of the blasphemy accusations. Radicals use blasphemy to demand a uniformity of thought.
In this case, Abbasi said, police suspect some of the complaints against Khan by other shopkeepers may have been sparked more by his desire to evict some of them for late payment as opposed to any actual insults.
A report by the Islamabad-based Center for Research and Security Studies said that since 1990, 52 people have been killed by vigilantes after being implicated in blasphemy cases.
Earlier this summer a mob in one Pakistani city dragged an accused blasphemer from a police building, beat him to death and burned the body.
Pierre Del Norte - Sep 19, 2012 2:58 PM
Since we are talking about religion and peace, I have just one question for you.
Just what in Hell are you talking about?
Mr. Del Norte
Pierre Del Norte - Sep 19, 2012 3:27 PM
Referring to my previous post, that is the problem - every religion has followers who practice an immature form of their faith. They read their sacred texts literally and they concretize their symbols.
Then, when you compound the problem by integrating the power of government, as in Sharia Law, you get a big mess like Iran.
How do you explain countries that are predominately Muslim, like Jordan, who have embraced modernity? How do you explain the vast majority of Muslims in this country who have embraced religious freedom and live very peaceful lives?
Radical Islam embraces a bastardization of their religion by the concretization and literal interpretation of the sacred.
The reality is we still have Christian snake-handlers in this country.
Evolution comes more slowly for some people.
Put down the broad brush, Bernie. Just follow the sacred.
WFB resident - Sep 19, 2012 8:04 PM
what point did you give ? I am not sure if you did . For ex I was talking about the o
and his policies being a cult like religion ! No reality that it works ! (All reality that it
fails) But just alot of (As the o said "I will lower the seas" ,"I will make more jobs", "
I will help the poor" !!! But then ask him how and the o just repeats that He will do it
! Then you ask the o what did you do the last 4 years . His answer , :Well I was
given a big problem" So if he gets in another 4 years what will he do ? He has an
even bigger problem now !! huh ? lol... Some how logic escapes PDLS's and the
Dumocrats in general !!
aneuhauser - Sep 20, 2012 1:05 AM
Literal, contextual interpretation of the Christian New Testament elicits no encouragement of violence. However, literal, contextual interpretation of the Koran still leaves one with violence and lethality. Hence my indictment of the religion rather than its practitioners.
George: I rejected your comment since it contains a personally insulting term. Your point is well taken with respect to my use of "John". I will cease and desist.