Say it ain't so, Joe
There is definitely trouble in the Obama campaign, which really came to the forefront in the recent Ryan/Biden vice presidential debate. Obama is falling behind Romney in the polls. The Obama "message" (if you can call it that) is nothing more than attack, attack, attack. When a sitting president has few, if any, accomplishments to point to, what else can he do? The crowds are dwindling around Obama, while Romney and Ryan are enjoying the kind of audiences that The One had grown accustomed to when campaigning in 2008.
What was very telling about how desperate Obama/Biden have become was the behavior of the Vice President during the debate. Joe Biden could not control himself. He acted like a child - giggling, smiling, guffawing, interrupting, and just in general making a fool of himself. Biden also laughed at very inappropriate times (is it really funny that Iran is developing a nuclear weapon? that millions of Americans are living in poverty? Joe apparently thought so). Joe Biden was very disrespectful towards Paul Ryan during the entire debate. His behavior was not addressed by liberally-biased moderator from ABC, Martha Raddatz (whose 1991 wedding was attended by pal Barack Obama and whose ex-husband was hired by Barack Obama as the head of the FCC), either.
Some "fun facts" from the VP debate:
1) Paul Ryan spoke for 40:12 minutes
2) Joe Biden spoke for 41:32 minutes
2) 23 minutes of Joe Biden's speaking time occurred when Biden interrupted Ryan
3) In a total of 81:44 minutes of speaking time, Biden interrupted Ryan 82 times
4) Debate moderator Martha Raddatz interrupted Paul Ryan 40 times
By all accounts, many news organizations and politicians were shaking their heads concerning Biden's manic behavior. FOX News anchor Chris Wallace stated:
"I think I have watched almost every presidential and vice-presidential debate since the first four Kennedy/Nixon debates in 1960..I don't believe that I have ever seen a debate in which on participant was as openly disrespectful of the other as Biden was to Paul Ryan tonight. It was openly contemptuous and disrespectful. And it wasn't just the facial gestures, it was also the words. In the course of the night he dismissed various arguments by Ryan as "malarkey"; "bunch of stuff"; "I don't know what these guys are talking about"; "loose talk" and "bluster." It was really an extraordinary, and I have to say...unprecedented performance in a vice presidential debate."
Around Washington D.C. and in other political/news circles, Biden has a reputation as a "nice" guy. Obviously, his evil twin must have appeared at the vice presidential debate. Now, whether or not Biden's bizarre performance was intentional, designed to distract from the Romney/Ryan message, is not crucial at this point in the campaign. What is important is that the American people got a chance to see a very presidential, mature, composed, thoughtful, and intelligent adult - Paul Ryan - take on an immature, childish, and rude Joe Biden. As many - including myself - have said, Paul Ryan was the only adult on that debate stage. The Martha Raddatz/Joe Biden tag-team tried hard to bait Ryan, but to his credit, Ryan didn't bite.
Joe Biden lost more than the debate Thursday night. With his nasty and childish behavior on display for millions to see, Biden lost many independents and undecided voters. In addition, I'd venture to say that Biden lost his own dignity by sacrificing himself to save a sinking presidency.

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84 Comments
geno53151 - Oct 13, 2012 3:56 PM
Janetluvshorses - Oct 14, 2012 1:09 AM
panicked or you would have had a post that highlighted all the great points the Ryan made
and won the night instead of whining, excuses and insults... 3rd most tweeted word in the
last six month "malarkey". Describing Romney and Ryan... LOL
ahemmer - Oct 14, 2012 9:20 AM
Yet, aren't the Dems (and Obama) the ones constantly whining for "civility?" Well, janet and GWB, "civility" was sadly lacking on the part of Joe Biden during the past debate. And I would venture to say that many of us Wisconsinites weren't surprised - after all, we were priviledged to witness for months on end the childish, nasty, thuggish, and uncivil behaviors from the lefties from the belly of the beast: The People's Republic of Madison (when unionistas and anti-Walker folks threw a tantrum cuz they didn't like legislation desired by the majority).
Thanks again! You helped prove my point. The Dems/libs are the party of "do as we say, not as we do."
BruceSpringsteen - Oct 14, 2012 10:35 AM
People growing tired of your dribble?
Maybe journal communications, inc. will give your space to Janet and her horses?
ahemmer - Oct 14, 2012 11:12 AM
Now, my question to you is: what in the world does your concern for my "readership" numbers have to do with the blog topic? Or are you pulling a Joe Biden and just trying to be obnoxious and distract from the message? :)
jman99 - Oct 14, 2012 11:38 AM
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/the-vice-presidential-debate-joe-biden-was-right-to-laugh-20121012#ixzz296m32SEu
"I've never thought much of Joe Biden. But man, did he get it right in last night's debate, and not just because he walloped sniveling little Paul Ryan on the facts. What he got absolutely right, despite what you might read this morning (many outlets are criticizing Biden's dramatic excesses), was his tone. Biden did absolutely roll his eyes, snort, laugh derisively and throw his hands up in the air whenever Ryan trotted out his little beady-eyed BS-isms.
But he should have! He was absolutely right to be doing it. We all should be doing it. That includes all of us in the media, and not just paid obnoxious-opinion-merchants like me, but so-called "objective" news reporters as well. We should all be rolling our eyes, and scoffing and saying, "Come back when you're serious.""
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/the-vice-presidential-debate-joe-biden-was-right-to-laugh-20121012#ixzz29IB3S09b
jman99 - Oct 14, 2012 11:46 AM
http://www.eurweb.com/2012/10/put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house-t-shirt-on-romneyryan-supporter/
ahemmer - Oct 14, 2012 12:19 PM
And you are wrong that Biden was "absolutely right" to behave the way he did. Huh? Acting like an obnoxious, rude child? And this kind of behavior coming from the Vice President of the United States?
If anyone could call out the lies of the Obama Administration, which Paul Ryan did pretty well, the list would go on and on - there wasn't enough time in the debate to point them all out. Let's just start with a couple of biggies - lies that would - in a Republican Administration - served as grounds for impeachment.
How about "Fast and Furious?" How about blaming a YouTube video in response to actual terrorist attacks? How about not responding to the pleas of our U.S. reps in the Middle East - including Ambassador Chris Stevens - for additional security way before this recent 9/11 outbreak of violence? People died because of the Obama Administration. The cover-ups continue, with the help (although a bit more half-heartedly) of the mainstream media.
The Obama Administration and Obama is corrupt - and just operating on falsehoods. Romney and Ryan are correct in calling them out AND mentioning their own plan to help our floundering, leader-less country.
Janetluvshorses - Oct 15, 2012 12:26 AM
with more disrespectful statements than Biden could have dreamed of debate night... The
truth is he stood up to your parties Bully pulpit and called their core beliefs out for what
they are "malarkey". You guys kid yourselves into believing your malarkey so much you
were more shocked that Biden crumbled Ryan unde his own lies... The best part of the
debate was when Ryan tried to launch his much rehearsed zinger on what a waste the
stimulus was and Biden beat the daylights out of him with the facts that Ryan wrote MANY
letters asking for stimulus money because he was excited about creating jobs with it...
Ryan looked like someone walked over his political grave... Because Biden did... Biden
was clearly in control and only interrupted when Ryan went off on his pre rehearsed lies...
Glad Biden was able to show Ryan for the complete hypocrite that he obviously is as he
had to agree when caught about his own hypocricy.... Keep chanting the republican
pollster numbers to yourself Amy maybe you can try and trick yourself into believing
Romney has a chance. LOL
Janetluvshorses - Oct 15, 2012 3:47 AM
the bible is the worst insult there is. The bible says its like killing that person a thousand
times... Amy obviously your behavior is worse than Biden... Takes one to know one...
That's why Teapubs are so upset... Or maybe Amy isn't a Christian like Romney?
ahemmer - Oct 15, 2012 6:45 AM
"What do independents want most? They want people who will practice a more respectful brand of politics, who will behave the way most Americans try to behave in their dealings - respectfully, maybe pausing to listen for a second. To them Biden will seem like an off-putting caricature of the worst of the old-style politics.
This is not just an issue of manners. It's: how are we going to practice the kind of politics that will help us avert the fiscal cliff? How are we going to balance cross-cutting challenges, such as increasing growth while reducing long-term debt? A lot of people will look at Biden's performance and see a style of politics that makes complex trade-offs impossible. The people who think this way swing general elections."
Exactly. Biden was a classless jerk. Ryan appeared poised and in control. He answered Biden's (and Raddatz's) challenges directly. People saw an adult with strong leadership qualities sitting across from a rude, manic VP. Imagine - Biden is one heartbeat away from the presidency (and lefties were worrried about Palin??? LOL)...
By the way, janet, end the personal attacks aimed at yours truly. (Reread the Discussion Guidelines if you do not understand.)
yert49 - Oct 15, 2012 8:22 AM
All you had to do is look at Obomba's face during the first debate and realize that they KNOW there is not going to be a 2nd term. They have given up and ole Joe played the 2nd crab-arse-in-Chief to rally the base. Obomba may come out stronger in this debate, but watch what they discuss. Is it Romney's plan for the future or Barry's magical trip into mediocrity.
Mucho - Oct 15, 2012 1:31 PM
The Liberals loved Biden's sniping and juvenile smirks and grins. The Conservatives hated it.
The 6% in between the left and right are running from the do nothing tax and blame policies of the food stamp underemployment czar president. Despite the overrepresented sampling of the 2008 Dems in the polls, Romney keeps pulling ahead.
Stay the course lefties, its working for America and Romney will get America working for themselves as Obama hits the book tour and the grown ups clean up his mess.
ahemmer - Oct 15, 2012 2:28 PM
When the party that is in power - with Obama as Prez and Biden as VP - appear to be more of the "campaigners" than the very men they are running against - Romney and Ryan (who appear more presidential) something's gotta give. And what I think it will be is the White House.
ahemmer - Oct 15, 2012 3:38 PM
I was pretty close. Biden only mentioned his boss's name, Barry Hussein Obama, one time:
From Slate http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2012/10/11/vp_debate_recap_joe_biden_said_my_friend_how_many_times_and_other_numbers.html:
How many times did each candidate refer to the other man's running mate directly? Biden said Romney 26 times and referred to him as the governor another four times; Ryan said Obama 15 times and referred to him directly as the president another 5 times (and Obamacare another 10).
How many times did each candidate refer to their own running mate by name? Biden said Obama once but some form of "the president" in reference to his boss another dozen times; Ryan said Romney 21 times.
MGarber - Oct 15, 2012 3:54 PM
Did he actuall call him "Barry Hussein Obama"?
Why are you referring to him as "Barry Hussein Obama"??
When can we expect you to start referring to Romney as "Willard Mitt Romney"??
Janetluvshorses - Oct 15, 2012 3:56 PM
ahemmer - Oct 15, 2012 4:22 PM
Romney also leads The One across the nation. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
However, the only real poll that counts is the one on November 6th - when Romney/Ryan are elected to save the country from the policies and ideology of the socialist little man-child.
As for the Tea Party - I am not an official member, janet. I like a lot of their ideas and values, but consider myself a "conservative."
And no, MGarber, Biden called his boss "Obama." I just use his full name for grins.
Janetluvshorses - Oct 15, 2012 4:36 PM