Apparently, Congressional Republicans Support Gang-Rape

It is nice to see the "Good Ol' Boy Network" at work.

Wingnuts spend all their time and energy demonizing ACORN, while the real demons (Haliburton, Blackwater etc.), get away with murder ... and gang rape ... and whatever else they can get away with ... to the tune of billions. And the Republican Party faithful remain silent.

"turn a blind eye and a deaf ear every now and then, and we get on marvellously well."

Hey, at least we now know what the "R" stand for in "RNC"....

I don't think that anyone supports "gang rape."
This post ignores several facts about the entire story regarding Jamie Leigh Jones, the woman who is alleging she was raped in Iraq. First of all, she did not work for Halliburton. Halliburton had nothing to do with any of this. She worked for KBR - a company that spun off from Halliburton years ago.
Secondly, since Jones has retained lawyers, her story has changed. Check other blogs besides the liberal ones that are gleefully touting the "Halliburton, Bush, etc." nonsense that the Bush haters just cannot get past. Originally, she stated being raped by two attackers after a date rape cocktail. Later, she claimed to have been raped by more than two - several men, in fact, hence, the gang rape claim. She also said she had been held in a storage bin for several hours - and not allowed to make a phone call for help once she stated she had been raped. This was not true. KBR - the company involved, got Ms. Jones medical attention right away. And others have come forward to say that Ms. Jones would have died in a storage bin from the heat if she indeed had been in one for hours- the bins can have a temp. in the 100's with the Iraqi sun beating down.
Obviously, tho, something did occur. And if Ms. Jones was indeed raped as she claims, I am sure that everyone feels sympathy for her and wants the perpetrators brought to justice. However, I agree with Republican lawmakers that it is not up to the government to tell private companies how to write their contracts for employees. If an employee does not like the wording in a contract (such as Ms. Jones found - that she could not sue a company if she was raped), they should not work for that company. In addition, KBR did not rape Ms. Jones - other employees possibly did. They should be the ones charged with rape, one would think. Ms. Jones is also suing the United States.

Amy,
This bill is not about telling private companies what to do. It is about refusing to do business with companies who have such things as anti rape litigation clauses in their contracts.

Regardless of what happened to this woman, regardless of her lax review of her own contract, the fact that such a policy exists is repugnant. I do not want my tax dollars going toward the profits of such an immoral company. Why do you?

Just as the employee has the right not to work for a company that has such fine print in their contract, the American people have the right to not allow contracts to be awarded to a company that allows such a clause in an employee contract. They should have the right to not allow for employees not to sue just as we have the right to not allow such companies to profit off our tax dollars. To me government contractors are an extension of our government and should be held to even stricter standards than the companies citizens hire privately.

Obviously these women should have stayed in school and learned how to read the fine print in their contracts. KBR/Halliburton is not responsible for these women's bad choices. Besides, they were probably asking for "it" in the first place. In case anybody doesn't get it - SATIRE

I firmly agree no money should go to any employer that cannot be sued. That includes the federal goverment, as sovereign immunity would have protected them from being sued. So therefore noone from the fed govt should be paid anything.

Amy said: "First of all, she did not work for Halliburton. Halliburton had nothing to do with any of this. She worked for KBR - a company that spun off from Halliburton years ago."

KBR was a subsidiary of Haliburton. They split in 2007. Jones alleges she was raped in 2005.

"In addition, KBR did not rape Ms. Jones - other employees possibly did. They should be the ones charged with rape, one would think."

Of course when a couple of ACORN employees are involved in criminal activity the entire organization takes the hit.

Blatant hypocrisy.

Maybe they didn't consider it rape...maybe, like their likely descendants in the movie "Idiocracy" they simply thought of it as "sex, family-style".

Yes. Blatant hypocrisy. ACORN's employee's acted stupidly and were deserving of scorn. KBR's employee's acted ILLEGALLY and are deserving of prison. Both organizations have a lot for which to answer. And a government contractor is a contractor is a contractor, whether a liberal-leaning one, or a conservative-leaning one. Treat both equally.

You can't treat them both equally. Remember "From little ACORNS grow big Marxists....or criminals." ACORN is a subversive organization, unlike KBR, (Killers, Butchers, Rapists) a truly patriotic American business.

Just a little background information to add to the Jon Steward video:

http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/12/a-closer-look-at-those-halliburtonkbr-gang-rape-allegations/#comments

referee33: KBR: Killers, butchers, rapists? Just what are you talking about? Do you even know what KBR does? or the history?

Just as so many on the left always decry Halliburton (unjustly), Halliburton offers a unique service in the oil industry that many libs know nothing about. Do a little research for once. Unlike ACORN, that is always in the news for illegal activities, voter fraud, and attempts to manipulate the system to get tax dollars unjustly, as well as promoting underaged illegal prostitution...well, I guess that's their niche. Companies like KBR and Halliburton are businesses - they provide necessary services in the oil industry as well as others. Can anyone tell me what ACORN does that is honest - helpful - and contributes to society? All they seem to do is scam the system - and steal votes come election time.

Comments from readers of Michelle Malkin? Doesn't get any more credible than that.

jmark: Jamie Leigh Jones did NOT work for Haliburton. She worked for KBR. KBR was her employer.

One big difference between KBR and ACORN, (as the libs are trying to use as an example of "hypocrisy,") is that ACORN steals taxpayer dollars to fund it's criminal activities. It's yet another of those social programs where the money flows in and seems to line the pockets of those in charge, while they play the system.

Haliburton and KBR are private companies that are in business to make money. They don't soak the taxpayers, illegally, like ACORN. They are legitimate businesses. Of course, many business sometimes have a few bad apples that do illegal things. They get caught and punished -either fired or sent to jail. We see it all the time with accountants cooking the books or people stealing from their companies. But to compare ACORN to either Haliburton of KBR is disingenuous.

jmark: Just like a YouTube video from Jon Stewart - doesn't get more credible than that. And a bill from a Saturday Night Live comedian at the same time...

Halliburton provides unique services alright. For our brave men and women fighting in hostile environments halliburton provides "potable" water so fresh from the nearest river you would never know it was treated. Showers that get you so shockingly clean you may never need another. All for an undisclosed no bid bargain price that you may need the freedom of information act to compare...

"Originally, she stated being raped by two attackers after a date rape cocktail. Later, she claimed to have been raped by more than two - several men, in fact, hence, the gang rape claim. What type of a heartless (expletive) would have trouble understanding a womans confusion after being fed a date rape drug....wow.. I don't have to words to use here that are fit for print. I won't eventry to defend acorn (never have) but how you can brush this off like you do and make it sound like the victim is the questionable one here baffles me.

K -Killers - electrocuting American soldiers.
B -Butchers - all right a stretch - providing meal services doesn't mean that you actually butcher the meat.
R - Rapists - that is what they are accused of being by several former female employees.

Amy said: "They don't soak the taxpayers, illegally, like ACORN."

huh?

"KBR, the Army's largest contractor in Iraq and Afghanistan, is linked to "the vast majority" of suspected combat-zone fraud cases that have been referred to investigators, as well as a majority of the $13 billion in "questioned" or "unsupported" costs, the Pentagon's top auditor said yesterday.

In testimony before the bipartisan Commission on Wartime Contracting in Iraq and Afghanistan, April G. Stephenson, director of the Defense Contract Audit Agency, said investigators have sent to the inspector general a total of 32 cases of suspected overbilling, bribery and other violations since 2004."

KBR was a subsidiary of Halliburton, much in the same sense that LLC is a subsidiary of Journal Communications. If you had reason to sue LLC ( I'm not a legal expert) would the parent company be included in the lawsuit?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/04/AR2009050403283.html

You need a different B word ref...bribers? bilkers?
They soak the taxpayers legally ( official statement as litigation is in progress) until proven so in the court of law.

Boy, I missed you guys. Please keep going. Nothing will turn this country around more than Liberals opening their mouths. What an atmosphere of unity and open mindedness Obama has fostered.

molly: Where you been sister! Huber Facility?

Maybe she works for haliburton and just returned from a middle eastern tour....since their employees are such whiners they just decided to uh " fill" miss Jones "position" with a willing paid participant....."snickers and clicks"

MsMolly: Thanks for once again bringing out the best in the libs who cannot argue with facts or reason, but always have to resort to attacking whomever makes comments they disagree with.

hemmer: You are such an idiot. You pat molly on the back for doing precisely what you accuse libs of doing. Duh!

Amy perfers that government contracts go to companies that have a clauses that bar's the civil rights of employees from litigating if a crime has been commited agaisnt them.

AMY this is sick why shouod KBR be above the law, law which is made by the congress. Really, being against this bill is sick.

@LL: Thanks for the words. My first inclination for a B word had to do with the offspring of unmarried parents. Since I don't think I have the carte blanch for insults that some members of this site appear to have, I decided not to use it.

Hey here's a sunday morning joke, "Compassinate Conservatism"!

jmark: Compare Ms. Molly's comment to your own and Lakeside Libertarian. Ms. Molly is stating that libs are their own worst enemies when they open their mouths (an excellent point, I might add).
You, on the other hand, imply that Ms. Molly just got out of jail on Huber law. Lakeside libertarian goes even further to say that Ms. Molly was probably over in Iraq being a "willing participant" being raped and filling in for Ms. Jones. Hmmmm. Notice a bit of a difference among the comments?

And here's a Sunday morning joke: How Jacob Pickard spells "compassionate conservatism."

hemmer: I shouldn't have called you an idiot, hypocrite would have been more appropriate. And I shouldn't have implied that molly was in Huber. Judging by her adolescent comments, she's probably not old enough. Perhaps she has been in juvenile detention?

Hey! Is molly one of your kids?

She must be, why else would you defend her.

Wow! OK. Here's a question. It sounds like there's corruption in government when the Democats are in control and there's corruption when the Republicans are in control. The Dem's have Acorn, GE, Wall Street, umm, unions, trial attorneys, etc. and the Rep's have Haliburton, military contractors, big pharm, big oil, big insurance, umm, big whatever, etc. Anyone disagree yet?

So, the bigger government gets, the more corruption can and does exist. So, we should now turn over the health industry to them?

You've got politicians and bureaucrats and lobbyists scheming behind closed doors, telling us only what they want us to know, not even reading the bills they vote on, and using the threat of force to control us, and you trust them to take care of you?

JP - Compassionate Conservative. Who's more compassionate? Someone that wants to help someone themselves. Have a personal relationship with someone in need. Give them encouragement and tell them that they can do it. Or, someone that tells the government to take money from someone else and give it to someone they think should get it, then take the credit for being compassionate?

Ms. Molly: Excellent points. I am sure the libs are speechless and will only be able to respond with little more than attacks on you (and probably me).

And no, jmark, as you so childishly suggest, Ms. Molly is not one of my kids. Our children are not allowed on blog sites such as this, due to the nature of the comments, which often leave a lot to be desired. I would not want them to be subjected to reading some of the kind, compassionate, loving comments libs such as you direct my way at every opportunity. And, knowing most libs have no sense of humor, that was a joke.

molly: Of the wealthy industrialized nations, the US is the only one that doesn't offer universal health coverage. Medical costs in the US are nearly twice that of the other nations. Figures vary, but it's estimated that as many as 20,000 US citizens die every year as a result of being uninsured or under insured. We have a higher infant mortality rate and lower life expectancy than countries that offer universal coverage. Sixty-two percent of all bankruptcies filed in the US in 2007 were linked to medical expenses. And you don't have to go very far to realize people are getting screwed by the insurance companies (read Tami's blog). The current system is failing us, and its not going to get fixed simply by repeating: "Government is not a solution to our problem, government is the problem".

And no Amy, I wouldn't expect you to allow your kids to read what's posted here. Heaven forbid they be exposed to a variety of view points!

" Anyone disagree yet?" Yup.. You seem to feel that only the Dems are in wall streets back pocket when they own both parties.
I did not think my statement above would offend anyone since the conservative view point on being raped by co workers seems to be that as long as it's covered in the fine print it is acceptable.

Jmark - OK, so you trust those in government more than the American people. Doesn't matter that corruption abounds. Got it.

Why don't you start an insurance company, fund it through donations from all of those compassionate people that want universal health insurance, and give people free insurance? That way, no corruption, more efficient, you wouldn't saddle future generations with massive debt, and bureaucrats wouldn't be making health care decisions.

You must believe that most people want to pay higher taxes to fund health insurance, so you shouldn't have any problem raising the money needed to have the buying and negotiating power to lower health care costs.

If not, then you're saying that the American people are not compassionate and that they must be forced to help others.

molly: In June the House Committee on Energy and Commerce conducted hearings to investigate terminations of individual health policies by insurance companies. According to the LA Times, documents obtained by the committee show "that one Blue Cross employee earned a perfect score of "5" for "exceptional performance" on an evaluation that noted the employee's role in dropping thousands of policyholders and avoiding nearly $10 million worth of medical care.

WellPoint's Blue Cross of California subsidiary and two other insurers saved more than $300 million in medical claims by canceling more than 20,000 sick policyholders over a five-year period, the House committee said."

Contrast private to social insurance.

My 90 year old father has been on Medicare for 25 years. He receives excellent care, and never once has he been denied treatment despite a host of pre-existing conditions. If it wasn't for Medicare he'd either be dead, or destitute.

I have a friend who receives his care through another government run program, the Veterans Administration. He not only raves about the care he receives; he brags about it! I have to admit, I'm somewhat envious.

The distinction between private insurance and social insurance is that the one focuses on maximizing profit, while the other on maximizing health care.

I'd rather my tax dollars go to the latter.

Jmark - Do you realize how many horror stories I can provide about government run healthcare? So, let's get back to principles.

So, you trust bureaucrats and politicians more than the American people, right?

You believe that government control of the market place is better than the free market, right?

You have no problem saddling future generations with debt, right?

You want the government to take what one person earns and give it to someone else that they want to like them, right?

You believe that you're compassionate, not because you freely give to those in need, but because you empower others to take from those that earn it, right?

But, let's see. You don't get the credit for being compassionate. The earner doesn't get the credit. The politicians get the credit. And, what did they do? Did they earn it? Did they give what was theirs? When was the last time they, or you, thanked the earners?

And what is it they call it when the government controls the market place? When the government provides for peoples needs? When the government takes from those with means and gives to those with needs?

Wow, look at that skewed BS from MsMolly. Typical BS from that ilk.

Principles: The reichwinger out of power have not met a principle or value they wouldn't sell out on or attempt to profit from by dropping it if it meant their own enrichment.

These are the people telling us that we should trust insurance companies who are denying and cutting off people by leaps and bounds that we should trust the corporations - corporate person-hood has blinded them to "trusting in people" and the true meaning of that.

They'll lie and distort because they have nothing else...

A bit more on principles:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/10/21/795694/-Conservative-Principles-in-Action!

The pics and text display a solid definition of how these idiots consider "principles".

molly: I believe that you believe the free market will magically correct itself. In the mean time, an estimated 45,000 Americans die annually as a result of a lack of health care coverage. Universal coverage would prevent this. That the wealthiest country in the world allows this to occur is unbelievable. That people would actually defend the status quo is disgraceful.

http://www.harvardscience.harvard.edu/medicine-health/articles/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-lack-health-coverage