Read my lips...

Amy...just like my blog showing the horrible lies from Obama and the liberal democrats, you will get no debate from the idiots who either have no clue what Obama has said, or they just can't admit they acted stupidly back in Nov, 2008. I say it's a little of both

" I will not negotiate behind closed doors. I will have all parties present in negotiations:" Pres. "I'm the worst and most dishonest president ever" Obama. Are our liberals just as much a liar and a hypocrite as is our president? The answer is all too obvious

After three more years of his lies and failures he'll be voted out. The liberal losers will still be blaming bush.

My sentiments exactly, guys. And I doubt that any liberals will be able to muster any retort to this blog. Obama lied. The proof is watching him speak and listening to what he says and then reviewing what he actually does. Lies. How will anyone be able to stomache the upcoming "State of the Union" speech. That should be a real lie fest! Hope Joe Wilson speaks out again!

Great stuff, Amy!

Did you all happen to see this article today: (buried pg.4)

CAMERON REAGAN ARRESTED
The grandson of former U.S. president RONALD REAGAN has been charged with resisting arrest after police were called to his family's California home on Thursday (07Jan10).
Cops arrived at Cameron Reagan's parents' home in Van Nuys shortly after midnight on Thursday after the panic button on the property's burglar alarm was activated.
According to RadarOnline.com, the 31 year old was found in a drunken state and began shouting obscenities at the officers.
Cameron, the son of radio and TV personality Michael Reagan, was taken to jail and has been officially charged with resisting arrest.
At press time, he was still believed to be behind bars.
It is not the first time Cameron has been in trouble with the law - TMZ.com claims he served six months in prison in 1999 after he was convicted of receiving stolen goods relating to two car burglaries.
Another arrest in 2001 landed him in rehab and anger management class after police found a bag of marijuana on his person following a car break in

Hmmmm! This story sounds familiar somehow??? Police respond to a man breaking into a house. . . the guy gets upset and yells obscene things at police. . . he is arrested.

Boy, I guess since it's his family's home "those police acted stupidly."

Can we please get beer-with-obama: version 2.0.

Note: He's STILL in jail!!! Facing fines!!! Someone else was released to presidential fanfare!! Huh?

Hilarious!!!

aj911 nice find. Bet this correlation will be ignored by the lamestream media?

That story is funny...Poor Ron must be rolling in his grave about his drunken 31 yr old grand kid that still lives with his parents being arrested again. Probably still locked up due to his folks not wanting to make his bail.

Such a momentous story!
Good luck finding it at FOX.


http://www.foxnews.com/search-results/search?q=CAMERON+REAGAN

http://query.nytimes.com/search/sitesearch?query=CAMERON+REAGAN&srchst=cse

Shame on me for assuming before reading ..

Why was Cameron Reagan arrested? Cameron Reagan, former President Reagan’s grandson, was detained in Van Nuys jail. Reagan refused to talk to the press about the cause of his detention in jail. Reagan just said nothing happened.
Cameron Reagan was released from jail on the same day he was arrested and detained, ie, on Thursday, Jan 7.
Someone in the Reagan household pushed a panic button that called the police to the premises. When cops arrived, Cameron yelled profanities at them. Reagan resisted arrest.
Later, the Reagan family said the incident was a misunderstanding

http://celebgalz.com/cameron-reagan-why-was-cameron-reagan-arrested/

I always hope for liars to get caught and pay the consequences due to them. I also hope Joe Wilson can respect protocol, he need not respect the man but the event and the office do deserve the proper attitude towards its traditions if he can't abide by these he should find different work.

President Obama does not respect the office of the presidency, nor does he have the proper attitude towards its traditions. Since he cannot abide by these, he should find different work (maybe go back to "community organizing"...). The man is intent on shredding our Constitution and re-writing it as he and his socialist co-horts see fit. We are witnessing this right now. And who can forget:
"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it." - B.O.
What a warning! Too bad many voters failed to take heed before November 4th, 2008.

Obama should watch these instructional videos on how to be a dignified President:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s1odqQTKyU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUTwaSPcGno

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpL6EIMShO4

Any proof of this ?
"President Obama does not respect the office of the presidency, nor does he have the proper attitude towards its traditions"
Not opinions but proof?

Carl Hicks: Here is an excellent blog pointing out how Mr. Obama has diminished the office of the Presidency:

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/mary-kate-cary/2009/03/17/obamas-jay-leno-tonight-show-gig-will-diminish-his-presidency.html

A few key points from the article: "Doing Jay Leno lessens the stature of the office, and diminishes the man. On Leno, he (Obama) becomes just one more talk show guest, a celebrity on the circuit promoting his latest movie or book. It's a decision that speaks volumes about Obama's approach to the office. For that matter, so does his signing of op-eds about specific legislation in newspapers; his picking fights with radio talk show hosts; and his casual dress code in the Oval Office. There's still a coat-and-tie rule at the Supreme Court and on the floor of the House and Senate, out of respect for those offices. There should be at the White House, too."

Need any more examples?

Carl...would love to hear your response to Amy's examples.

Too funny Carl asks for, “not opinions but proof”. Then you come up with a Blog of all things as proof. Certainly couldn’t be any “opinions” in a blog now could there.
You and Jim are a bad joke, that keeps on repeating itself over and over and over and……

Onlyoneyou...why don't you try going after some of these facts instead of the same old liberal attacking the messengers? All you have to do is prove much of this wrong and I will listen as will others. But when you see Obama and his cronies dropping like flies in the polls and in the upcoming elections, I can't go on your opinions. I need facts to prove all this wrong. You have garnered zero credibility by constantly refusing to attack the facts,

“All you have to do is prove much of this wrong and I will listen as will others.” - Hayett

Herein lies the problem Jim ho can anyone “prove much of this wrong if you discredit any information presented??

Any information that I have provided in the past has been categorically dismissed every time I offered a link, it doesn’t matter where I get it from.

Onlyoneyou...you can't be this ignorant, can you? Facts are supported with data, etc. Why don’t you try to disprove all what Amy or I give you? Our blogs are not some conspiracy theory like many liberal blogs are. If these facts aren't true, prove it with facts and not your opinion. It's not that difficult. But the constant kicking and screaming every time the facts and the truth hurt you and the democrats you voted in office is not working anymore. That's been all too obvious lately

Any information that I have provided in the past has been categorically dismissed every time I offered a link or an opposing viewpoint, it doesn’t matter where I get it from, Jim, you dismiss it.

So you tell me how can I possibly “prove much of this wrong” to someone who is unwilling to accept any view except his/her own in the first place.

“If these facts aren't true, prove it with facts and not your opinion.” – Hayett
Like have been saying to you Jim, I HAVE TRIED, in the past and have come to realize the futility in that pursuit. There is no debating with you because you will not accept any dissenting opinions.

Excuse me?
I am ignorant for realizing the futility of attempting to engage you (and Amy) in a debate?

Oh please Jim, get over this need to insult those that disagree with you.

Next I will hear that I am not following the blog topic. The two of you are so predictable.

Onlyoneyou...will you please grow up. You have done nothing but ignore the facts and the truth. Its not a matter if I disagree with anyone. It's the facts that you and so many liberals refuse to debate but constantly whine about the truth and attack the messenger. get some credibility and debate the truth for a change.

"Yet, there are still many Obamazombies out there who apparently will follow their Dear Leader over a cliff if he asks them to." - Hemmer

Sounds like the conservatives under Bush.

onlyoneyou...were you born this recalcitrant? My goodness, can you ever debate any blog facts? We've all read your comments on Vics, or Jake's blogs and all you do there is brown nose. So be careful what color you call the kettle.

Back to my question, can you ever debate with some facts of your own?

Onlyoneyou...tell you what. Let me come down to your level and make this so easy even a cave man can do it. Fact and question#1: Did Obama lie and promise you and I that the health care debate, and all others, would be on C-Span?

"onlyoneyou...were you born this recalcitrant?"

Jim - Were you always this obstinate?

Onlyoneyou...tell you what. Let me come down to your level and make this so easy even a cave man can do it. Fact and question#1: Did Obama lie and promise you and I that the health care debate, and all others, would be on C-Span?

Let me come down to your level and make this so easy even a cave man can do it.

Don't bother getting off your high horse, Jim.

onlyoneyou...are you or are you not going to answer and prove to us whether Obama lied when he promised us all C-Span healthcare debates??? That's the content of this blog. Why is this so hard for you to do?

"prove to us whether Obama lied when he promised us all C-Span healthcare debates"

Sounds to me like you already have all the proof you need. As Amy said before, he has been a constant supply of material for the two of you. I am sick and tired of watching the two of you obtrude your positions.
I didn’t vote for the guy and I believe that he lies just as much as the republicans and the rest of the cronies on both side of the isle in Washington.

Onlyoneyou...so we are getting somewhere. Do you agree than that Obama lied about C-Span? I mean, that's what is one of the lies Amy and I have proven but not one liberal will debate this. Only run or attacks us. Obama is our president. Not a Republican or anyone else.

I do not understand this need of yours to obtrude your position. I believe they all lie why do I need to agree with you on any individual lie that any president made.
If I agree wth you that Obama lied about C-Span. Will you agree that G W Bush lied as a candidate that he would not use the US military for “nation building”?

I can't remember how many times I have to say this Jim but I am a LIBERTARIAN. So you do realize that even if I do "debate" this point with you, (which is not likely, since I don't believe you will agree to my terms that you agree with my FACT) you will still not have had a liberal debate this with you.

Onlyonyou...yes and no. This blog post is about our current pres. Not Bush. Write a blog on Living Lake Country and bash Bush. I'm doing this to you not to hurt you but to prove that you and every liberal who debates here can't admit what a liar Obama is. And to finally get you to admit the truth ONLY if I admit to a Bush lie? How wrong and dishonest can that be?? Either Obama is a liar or not. That fact should have no bearing on what I say, think, or do. Clinton, Bush, they are not our president. All 7 of this blog post lies from Obama are factual lies. You want to debate nation building or whether Bush had knowledge of 9/11 or if Bush went to war on lies? Great. But that is not the content of this blog and you keep running from it. But what bothers me is your comment that you didn’t vote for Obama, all politicians lie as have past presidents. But yet you attack Amy or me if we show what a pathological liar Obama is and the severe damage from his broken campaign promises. Why do you get so irate when we report what our MSM will not yet the MSM character assassinated Bush and his family on the slightest rumor of a lie? Your last comments doesn’t make any sense

Let's move on. Do you want to join us at LLC?

I knew this is as far a “debate” with you would get. Then this is the extent of "compliance" you will ever get from me. I believe they all lie republican as well as democrat to hold one higher and claim it as the “worst ever” is ludicrous and proves your ignorance of history.
I just do not understand why do I need to agree with you on any individual lie that any president made. I have stated that in the past, Oh one of short and selective memory.
Recalcitrant? I do not recognize you as being an authority. Nor do I recognize any need to comply with your diatribe.
You set the parameters of compliance required for the debate, if anyone does not comply with them then they are insulted

“Your last comments doesn’t make any sense”
Let me spell it out, I can't remember how many times I have to say this Jim, but I am a LIBERTARIAN. You do understand that a libertarian hold conservative and liberal ideals. I like to think that the libertarian has adopted the best of both parties it combines the best of the two philosophies. http://www.lp.org/platform

The strangest thing you will hear from me is that I would probably agree with the two of you more, if you two weren’t so extremely right wing. What I mean by that

Because I am a libertarian, you do realize that even if I "debate" this point with you, you will still not have had a liberal debate this with you. Understand? Since I am a libertarian, not a liberal you will still not have had a liberal debate this with you

Not opinions but proof?
"Carl Hicks: Here is an excellent blog " .... "Our blogs are not some conspiracy theory like many liberal blogs are... If these facts aren't true, prove it with facts and not your opinion."....So what this means is I have to use non liberal facts to debate conservative opinion.... "Need any more examples?"
Nope I think you just told me all I needed to know. Thank You

If everything liberal isn't the truth , does that mean it's fiction?

To me Jim the fact that Obama lied is paled by the reality that they all have, face it, the American public has been duped by the greatest majority of its presidents and congress though out its history, with a just only a few exceptions through the years, where is the news in that? Absolute power always corrupts absolutely.

Onlyoneyou...I agree with you on this one girl but not on why you refuse to debate because you say repubs. lied too. That is 100% correct. But you are still missing the entire point as to why I have chased you all over these blog sites: you’re ignoring the facts and the point of the blog. It's NOT about Bush or Clinton but pres. Obama and his very recent lies that are affecting all of us. That’s pertinent news. But when you try to change the subject that has nothing to do with the content, I’m just making sure you know this as do we and get you back on track. And why can't you address the 7 most recent lies from Obama before you go after republicans in whom many are no longer in office? That’s what the blog is all about: Obama’s recent lies and what will happen if he succeeds.

When I said your last comment doesn't make any sense I was implying to you stating that you didn't vote for Obama and you suggested he too was a liar. That didn't make sense since you have been on a tear to defend this guy and attack anyone who shows his weakness or his lies. Not over whether you are a liberal or a libertarian. Hope that clears that up.

carl...you seem like a smart guy. I said "Our blogs are not some conspiracy theory like many liberal blogs are... If these facts aren't true, prove it with facts and not your opinion." But you made fun of my comment. Why? It's self explanatory. If the facts are not true, just prove it with facts and not opinion. No one asked or suggested to use nonliberal facts to debate conservative opinions. These facts from Amy or me are not opinions thus not making them conservative opinions to debate. Obama's 7 lies are right there on the video for you to see and hear. That is a fact. Not a liberal or conservative opinion but a fact. Can you rebuttal or prove to us that Obama didn't lie? I'm asking you not for your opinion since Amy didn't give you hers. Obama gave us the lies and that's what he wants you libs to debate but not with your typical liberal opinions.

Onlyoneme: The examples I point out of Obama disrespecting the Office of the President actually happened. They are not opinion. They are facts. Obama tends to "dress down." A great example, his most recent appearances to make speeches from Hawaii re: Detroit bomber. He wore an open-neck dress shirt, no tie. He is the President! He needs to respect the office and dress appropriately. He and his staffers also pull a Clinton in dressing down in the Oval Office. At least they don't go as far as the blue jeans like Slick Willy staffers, but who knows....And selling out the use of the Lincoln bedroom (just like Clinton?). Obama has done that to major contributors to his campaign and then some. He did appear on Leno. The first president to appear on a comedy show. How degrading. Them's facts - onlyoneme. Not opinions. And Obama has gone after Fox News and conservative radio talk show hosts. Them's the facts, too, Onlyoneme.
Just because conservative bloggers point something out, doesn't mean it is simply an opinion. The facts are there.

A fact is an indisputable truth. That the earth revolves around the sun, is a fact, its truth value cannot be debated. To believe the president's appearance on a comedy show is degrading, is an opinion. People who rigidly hold their personal opinions as facts, are not very bright. And that's an indisputable truth.

Amy...here is the first comment on your blog last Friday and it came from me. I predicted that no liberal would even try to defend these multiple Obama lies that got so many lathered up that they voted in this pathological liar. Not one of my better predictions, but one that is so easy to make and wager on. Not one logical, truthful, debate about the blog topic from a single liberal. That tells a lot!

"just like my blog showing the horrible lies from Obama and the liberal democrats, you will get no debate from the idiots who either have no clue what Obama has said, or they just can't admit they acted stupidly back in Nov, 2008. I say it's a little of both."

Fact: Obama appeared on a comedy show.
Fact: Obama "dresses down" as President.
Fact: Obama personally goes after FoxNews and conservative talk show hosts.
Fact: Obama has sold out nights in the Lincoln bedroom to generous contributors to his campaign.
Fact: Obama used the office of the president to support his friend, Professor Gates, and diss police officers across the nation.
Fact: Obama's racially-biased support of his friend Gates led to the laughable "Beer Summit" -yet another embarrassing presidential moment, further serving to degrade the office of the president.
Fact: As President, Obama continues to blame Bush for his own mistakes and misdeeds.

Fact: Presidents sometimes dress down. In fact some presidents will dress down when addressing the nation regarding a horrific catastrophe, one that has actually caused tremendous human suffering! How disgraceful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAFjDL_vYX4&feature=related

Fact: It is an undeniable fact that Fox news and conservative talk show hosts have a history of propagating untruths about Obama. If the bas-terds continually questioned your status as an American citizen would you simply roll over and play dead?!

Fact: Presidents having sleepovers is nothing new: "Last month (this article is from 10/29/02) it was disclosed that Bush and his wife Laura have hosted about 160 guests at the White House so far. But a White House spokeswoman refused to say how many had tried the Lincoln bed in the hallowed room.

Bush's guests included some of his biggest donors or fundraisers, known as pioneers, and their families. Each had raised or contributed at least $100,000 for the Bush presidential campaign.

http://www.seattlepi.com/opinion/88910_helenthomas29.shtml

Fact: There is no reason to believe that Obama would have responded any differently to the Gates incident had it occurred prior to his taking office. If he made his comments while a senator, would you assert that he was abusing his position as a Senator.

Fact: Your assertion that the "beer Summit" was a laughable and embarrassing presidential moment is an OPINION!!

Fact: Bush inherited zero wars and a surplus. He left to his predecessor two wars, and an economy on the brink of collapse. Indisputable fact.

Fact: Hayett is a complete idiot. Oh wait, that's an opinion. ;-)

Is there anyone out there of the "opinion" that the Beer Summit was really "presidential?" A get-together based on the fact that the President of the United States shot off his mouth, criticizing police officers across the country, while defending his pal who couldn't behave when confronted by police in what appeared to be a break-in? A "Beer Summit" to accomplish what? Face it - fact is - the "beer summit" was a joke.

Fact: The economy was begining to tank when President Clinton left office. See: http://www.house.gov/jec/press/2003/09-04-03.htm

Fact: American troops still remain in the Balkans (remember Bosnia and Kosovo). Any "exit strategy" coming? Who sent them there? Remember bombing aspirin factories? Who was prez at the time? Clinton.

Fact: jmarks nasty comment re: Jim hayett will soon disappear.

Amy...again here's the first comment on this blog.

"just like my blog showing the horrible lies from Obama and the liberal democrats, you will get no debate from the idiots who either have no clue what Obama has said, or they just can't admit they acted stupidly back in Nov, 2008. I say it's a little of both."

Jmark is so predictable. The village idiot proves my comment to be 100% accurate as he does so often! Still can't debate the Obama lies.

Okay you win. The beer summit was not presidential. Presidential is walking hand in hand with Saudi royalty while strolling through a flower garden. Presidential is making silly faces and acting goofy prior to giving a speech to the nation on the eve of sending American troops into combat. Presidential is flipping the bird on camera and laughing like a schoolboy after wards.

Fact: In order for Obama to meet Amy's standard for what she deems dignified and presidential he would have to lower himself to the level of Bush.

Fact: I do not live in a village.

Why do you ask me to debate a policians lies? (gee who da thunk) I had said in my 1st post i hope all liars get caught and pay the price for them...Tell me who I voted for now....I'm waiting...
Fact: Obama appeared on a comedy show.
To believe the president's appearance on a comedy show is degrading, is an opinion. People who rigidly hold their personal opinions as facts, are not very bright. fact is - the "beer summit" was a joke. It's an opinion to say it degrades the office.
I don't believe this one..Fact: Hayett is a complete idiot.....since there has to be some parts missing....

You voted for the lying Bob Barr. I think.

I got to thinking about some mentions in recent blogs here about traditions and respect and it made me realize that IF this country did elect an honest person with strong morals our traditional persona of the president would have to change.
It's degrading to debate with people who expect a major party presidential candidate to be honest (talk about hope and change) and not make unkeepable promises during his campaign. Where have you been the last 40 some years?What planet are you types from anyhow?You folks can't be that simple.

Is there anyone out there of the "opinion" that the Beer Summit was really "presidential?"
Perhaps it wasn't presidential, but it isn’t the fiasco you make it out to be. So what if the white house apparel is less formal, each president has had their own style. Really take a few deep breaths and relax.
If I was you Dr, I think I would be worried about your blood pressure.

The beer summit WAS a fiasco! Did you see what Obama drank? Bud light. BUD LIGHT! I could never call him my president after that. He is the rest of the country's president; he is just some dude I tolerate.

Onlyoneme: I gave numerous examples of Obama not respecting the Office that he represents. Not acting dignified like a President should - as requested by Carl Hicks.
You didn't like the examples I provided, so instead you make excuses for the lax and loose behavior and protocols Obama has shown. Too bad. I stand by my statement. The Office of the President deserves more respect and dignity than Obama has given it.

Bud light ??? Is that really even beer?

You have every right Amy to stand by your stated opinions. Yours are yours as mine are mine. Being that they are opinions niether can be the only correct one for us both. Unlike facts which will not and cannot differ between individuals.