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Jacob Pickard

Specifically, cash donations to charities for the Haitian relief effort given after January 11 and before March 1 of this year may be treated as if the contribution was made on December 31 of last year so that the contribution can be deducted from 2009 income. This measure applies to monetary donations, not goods or services.One way to contribute is the Clinton Bush Haiti Fund. To donate, visit ClintonBushHaitiFund.org or text “QUAKE” to 20222 to charge a $10 donation that will be added to your cell phone bill. To learn more about the situation in Haiti and what you can do to help, visit WhiteHouse.gov/HaitiEarthquake.

Jacob Pickard

Amy - It's sad that you let partisianship get in the way of an otherwsie great blog on what the USA does as a Nation, as a people, to help in times of natural disaster be it at home or abroad. Which has nothing to do who is the "president" at the time.

Could have actually been a moment that you actually brought both lefties and righties on LLC blog together? Guess we'll never know what could have been if at least once you used your blogging skills to "bring-us-together", rather than push us apart.

ahemmer

Jacob Pickard: The Hurricane Katrina natural disaster (yes, not caused by Bush or Cheney as some like to believe) was made out by the media and liberals to be a terrible tragedy BECAUSE of George W. Bush. They let partisianship get in the way during that time and even today. Liberals didn't mind "pushing us apart" with their baseless accusations that Bush was racist and did nothing to help the people in need after Hurricane Katrina. So if the left can use Katrina as yet another topic to bash Bush on, it is fair game to do the same with the current President. The current President who is seeing it is very difficult - both logistically and historically to respond in a timely fashion to save lives. Sometimes Mother Nature isn't too kind - and man himself can only do so much to aid his fellow man. Our Federal Government does respond when horrible events like this occur - and it doesn't matter who the President is. We always come through as a nation. Now, why should one President be continually based for what many perceive - even if not true- to be a slow response regarding the aftermath of one hurricane vs. the aftermath of an earthquake. And remember, in both cases, the culture of poverty prevailed - in New Orleans and Haiti. People who don't know what to do to help themselves. Slow response, ignorance, waiting to be helped rather than taking the first steps towards aid and helping others, all play into the mix.
I don't expect all the millions or billions of dollars sent to aid Haiti will help end the poverty. Just like in New Orleans. The culture has to change. Dependency on government has to change. A new way of approaching life and problems must be developed if poverty is to be ended. Sadly, I don't think this will happen. And many of us feel good for a brief time sending money, but in the long run, will it really help?

jhayett

Jake…you and I don’t see eye to eye on much. And this time it’s no different. Amy’s blog and the Bush/Katrina example is the perfect analogy to the current Haitian catastrophe. You know this because I battled people in the LCR and here when liberals, coming from the MSM, started blaming Hurricane Katrina on Bush and Republicans over Kyoto and their perceived Republican’s lack of respect for global warming. I still can’t believe how ignorant some liberals truly could be over Katrina. But I guess I was wrong because now the tide has turned and the liberals are silent. Why? Because this time they have a liberal president, senate, and congress.
One of the worst politicians during the aftermath from Katrina and from the democratic party was Hillary. So when I watched Hillary’s briefing about not jumping in directly with Haiti but to take a short time to step back and assess the situation, I had to LOL. She was the first in line, after she took her cue from the liberal MSM, to attack Bush for liberals perceived lack of his not making quick decisions with Katrina.
The MSM is “pushing us apart” with their major partisanship and yet liberals like you and the democrats in Washington only follow the MSM all too often. That’s why America is voting them out one by one.

papamuskie

I agree with JP this is no time for that.Stop looking in the past and lets move on.

Andy_Kristensen

Are people actually defending the federal government's response to Hurricane Katrina??? Are you KIDDING me?!?!? Go down to New Orleans now, see how much of the city "has been repaired," and then tell me that the federal government's response to the disaster was "adequate."

ahemmer

Andy Kristensen: The federal government's response to Katrina was in accord with what has happened with past natural disasters. Hurricane Katrina was one of the worst natural disasters of our time. In addition to the hurricane itself, numerous levees broke (53), flooding most of New Orleans. (New Orleans, in reality, is a city that shouldn't exist - being that it is below sea level to begin with, and the levees protect it from being flooded by the Gulf waters.) This was a disaster of such a magnitude that we had never witnessed before. Yet, our federal government did respond - and quickly. On the other hand, state and local governments in Louisiana were slow to act, and unorganized. Governor Blanco even resisted the efforts of the Feds initially - and until the state requests help, the feds are limited as to how they respond. Did you know that?
Mayor Ray Nagin and Blano failed to start evacuations of New Orleans and other areas even after they knew Katrina was on it's way.
New Orleans had many pockets of severe poverty, high crime, and high unemployment prior to the hurricane. It was a city in dire straits to begin with. Then along comes Hurricane Katrina, making things even worse. Very similar to what we are witnessing in Haiti. And the rebuilding begins - and doesn't happen overnight.
When was the last time you visited New Orleans, Mr. Kristensen? By all estimations and reports, it is on its way to being repaired.

Andy_Kristensen

Wow Amy, you couldn't be any more wrong. ALL levels of government failed, NOT just the state and local. It is true that they failed to evacuate in time; regardless, the federal government also did not do their part in preparing the city for the hurricane. Where were all the high-powered levees that the government had been advised to build? They simply did not exist. Bush's response to the hurricane? Putting Brownie on the job. Since then, the city has BARELY been rebuilt, and thousands are still living in trailor parks and displaced people camps. There was absolutely almost no help from FEMA, and the Feds have done nothing to help people return to their homes and rebuild the city. And actually Amy, a year ago on a mission trip. I've experienced it first-hand. You have not im assuming. SO before you go off and start talking about all the rebuilding that is "occurring" there, you should've gone there in the first place and see how nothing is being done for the people who were affected by the Hurricane. And it's been 5 years since it happened- you'd think we'd have at least some progress by now.

referee33

Amy: New Orleans shouldn't exist? Using your logic, the Netherlands shouldn't exist either. Maybe the Corps of Engineers should ask the Dutch how to do the job.

referee33

Amy: New Orleans shouldn't exist? Using your logic, the Netherlands shouldn't exist either. Maybe the Corps of Engineers should ask the Dutch how to do the job.

ahemmer

referee33: New Orleans is sinking. At the rate of more than one inch per year. Many areas are farther below sea level than previously thought. See: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13065975/ for some information. New Orleans is basically a swamp. A dangerous place to try to inhabit. That is all I meant.

Mr. Kristensen: By all estimations, the federal government has aided many other areas of the United States that have fallen victim to natural disasters. Wild fires out west, tornadoes and flooding in the Midwest, hurricanes in Florida or other parts of the country. And their response and aid was expected.
New Orleans was a recipe for disaster. The city itself is built below sea level, with pockets of poverty throughout. Katrina was such a magnitude of a storm that we as a nation had never experienced. And rebuilding takes time. Did you know that many areas of New Orleans are indeed rebuilt? Such areas are those that didn't rely on the money from the feds, but took matters into their own hands with private funds, insurance money, and elbow grease. The areas that are struggling are those sitting and waiting - yes, waiting, for the feds or local governments to provide. And we all know that government is one of the most inefficient and bloated entities when it comes to problem solving.
There are signs of progress in New Orleans. 111 million cubic yards of debris and counting has been cleared. Electricity and water were restored shortly after the hurricane. New Orleans population has even come back close to pre-Katrina counts. The Louisiana Superdome was fixed. The French Quarter is home to tourists once again.
Katriana was not a common disaster. And we are still learning from it.

ahemmer

Andy Kristensen: what is a "high powered levee?" I thought levees were just concrete walls...
And did you know that the Army Corps of Engineers feared the levees surrounding New Orleans were inadequate as far back as the mid-1980's? Several presidents later, the levee situation was not changed. Who is to blame for not addressing the levee issue originally? Oh, of course, it has to be George W. Bush!!!

However, here is an interesting report on why New Orleans was ripe for disaster. It provides many facts that some are not aware of. The facts that analyze all the finger-pointing and blame:

See: http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/9/12/210912.shtml

The first paragraph is so true:
"Lying an average of seven feet below sea level, surrounded by the waters of Lake Ponchartrain, the Mississippi River and Lake Borgne, which separates Lake Pontchartrain from the Gulf of Mexico, and protected by a series of sinking levees, the city of New Orleans was a disaster waiting to happen."

jhayett

Andy...From the reports I saw there has been much done. But if you say or have cause to believe the rebuilding by our government and the charity by many Americans is inadequate, and it's the total lack of our Fed Gov, then go and ask Obama and the dems, who run everything, to fix it. You seem to be all for the trillions in new debt by Obama and the dems you and others put in office. So why not go after them if you believe the Fed can fix all this?

Andy_Kristensen

Amy and Jim- I agree and disagree with many of the things that you said. Agreements include: Obama should be doing more about it then he is, New Orleans was a disaster waiting to happen, a decent amount of the city has returned, and the feds have done a good job of cleaning up after other natural disasters. Disagreements- Agreeing with the debt that Obama is racking up (I'm preparing a blog that BLASTS all the spending he's doing), the federal government shouldn't be responsible for cleaning up, charity and elbow grease can fix everything, the "important parts" of the city have been rebuilt, and the city is close to normal.
I've been there. I've witnessed it first hand. It is not almost rebuilt. At all. And high-powered levees mean that there are levees that are made out of stronger material than concrete, i.e. reinforced titanium and steel levees. Bush is not the one to blame entirely for not preparing the city. Like you said, the report was issued in the 1980's. He was, however, responsible for the clean-up, and that so far has not been too adequate.

jhayett

Andy...what do you know about the mayor of NO and the Gov as to what they told Bush and what they failed to do on their own before, during, and after Katrina?

I also want to extend any help you may need with your blog on subjects like the one you are going to publish. I've spent the past 30 years of my life working with Wall Street. If you need any data like spending to GDP, and or GNP, history or interest rates with spending, etc, let me now. But let's do this on the side and use our email address provided.

ahemmer

Mr. Kristensen: Did you know that concrete is used in levee's because it is considered more "environmentally friendly" than steel? Also, do you know how much titanium costs? To suggest that levees be built from titanium is a bit much, considering titanium goes for about $29.00 per pound. Steel is much less costly, of course, but corrosion is always a problem.
Other countries that have below-sea level areas use methods other than levee's to control flooding. Japan and the Netherlands both seem to have superior systems compared to the United States. However, another interesting fact in regards to New Orleans, is that when work was being done to shore up areas that were weak and needed repairs, people living in the area's complained - and the work ended. Too much noise pollution.
And the Federal government is only responsible for so much when it comes to disaster relief. The majority of work falls on the states themselves that are affected by disasters. Louisiana was slow in asking for aid, and slower in distributing the money that flowed in from Uncle Sam to start clean-up and rebuilding projects. The refrain "it's Bush's fault" is starting to get very old. And we still are hearing it to this day - from the current occupant of the White House.

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