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ahemmer
Sunday Jan 24, 2010 10:31 AM

Funny how the usual libs haven't chimed in to comment on this post, Jim.
Looks like you may have struck a nerve - and indefensible one at that. They simply have no logical explanation or facts to dispute your blog. So, the crickets are chirping. How very telling!

Obama has shown the American people his campaign was based on lies. He says one thing and does the complete opposite. He has failures too numerous to mention in a comment (maybe I'll blog about it) and successes that are hard to think about. The only two I come up with are the order he gave the Navy Seals to take out the Somali pirates early on in his presidency, and the major accomplishment of re-energizing the conservative/Republican movement like never before. For that I am thankful to Obama! He and Sarah Palin were a great team in that regard!

Good post! I expect the Obama loyalists who are still drinkin' that Kool Aid to have no comments, since there is nothing to say in Obama's defense!

jhayett
Sunday Jan 24, 2010 3:33 PM

Amy…you are right. But I got an email that our local libs are boycotting my blog because they think I will “go way.” NOT! And there’s even more to come. It would be nice to think they can’t debate my blog facts as to why they are running, as is evident by the near 100% of responses are only vicious attacks. How many comments have been removed just in the last few weeks by hate filled libs like jmark?

How do these liberals who comment and blog here, who are mostly atheists, raise their children? Do they sit at the kitchen table and tell Johnny, “It’s OK to use those four letter words like mom and dad do on those who you can’t debate because they are right and we have no facts. But just attack them with hate and filth. And if that doesn’t work, dream up some dirt and lies and go after their spouse and kids. But whatever you do, don’t attack the message since we can’t. But only do this while you hide under a fake name. And by the way, if you use that vile language at home, we will wash your mouth out with soap. But keep pushing your lies and our warped ideology even though most don’t like it or want it.”

referee33
Sunday Jan 24, 2010 5:10 PM

Jim: Source of your quote? The Obama administration went into office fully intending to fulfill their campaign statements and were met with unprecedented stonewalling by the opposition party. They espoused the opinion that we hope he fails, even though that meant they would deny the country any chance to quickly recover from an economic debacle not seen since the 1930's, end two wars and restore our status as the most ethical country in the free world. I'll post a few names from the Bush administration to see how you will respond to their veracity. Rep. Nick Smith, John Ashcroft, Tom DeLay, Rep. Bill Janklow, William Boykin, Rep. Mark Foley, James Guckert (Jeff Gannon) Enron and Haliburton. Interesting that you criticize libs for personal attacks, but yet you post something as derogatory as your second paragraph. Talk about a double standard.

jhayett
Sunday Jan 24, 2010 5:36 PM

Ref...What quote are you talking about that I didn't supply a source? However, the source is irrelevant since those corrupt politicians Obama brought into the White House is true. All what you say is mostly opinions brought by the liberal MSM. I will point out only one very big fallacy that says how unbalanced libs are: Halliburton and my industry. HAL fell from roughly $15 a share after 9/11. When the attacks on Cheney and HAL took place, and later found by the regulators to be all wrong, HAL actually went form .34 per share to a loss of .40 per share. Had HAL made all that $ that Dan Rather and the lying liberals said, why did HAL lose money? You can see all this since HAL is a publicly traded co. And if you recall, the highly dishonest democrat Elliot Spitzer, who ran the SEC, tried each and every day to find HAL at fault with their earnings. He couldn't because HAL lost $ and didn't make the $ on the US military as you would like to think. Those are facts Ref. Oh, by the way. HAL didn't get back to the $15 range until nearly six years later! Not a good stock to own. Talk about a double standard ref!

jhayett
Sunday Jan 24, 2010 5:51 PM

ref33...may I ask what any part of your comment has to do with the current admin and my stating that Obama CAN get him and us out of this mess? Did you even read the entire blog?

referee33
Sunday Jan 24, 2010 6:16 PM

Jim: Your quote - "It's OK to use those four letter words.......though most don't like it or want it." What is the source? If they are your words, you don't need quotes, if they are not, you need to identify the source. We survived the lying Bush administration and will survive this one too. If you believe that Pres. Obama can find a way to get us out of this mess, where do you place the blame for getting us into this mess?

Christian Democrat
Sunday Jan 24, 2010 6:31 PM

Jim, your comment here is crazy. The irony is hysterical. The hypocrisy is astounding. Thanks for the laugh.

If I thought it would be a good debate without name calling on your part, Jim, I would actually comment on your blog topic. It has a lot of interesting points.

You mention "hiding behind a fake name". Yes, Jim - I do. In order to protect my daughter and myself from the likes of you and Amy. You see, what you perceive as attacks on you are also considered attacks when made BY you. You are no better than those you accuse. You attack, you name call, you offend my faith. You may not swear but your words are offensive and hurtful. You do not know how to debate with anyone that does not agree with your ideals, without attacking them personally and with malice.

Have fun chatting with Amy.

jhayett
Sunday Jan 24, 2010 6:32 PM

Ref33...my source? Where the heck have you been? You sipping that Tequila again? The four letter word is a phrase for swear words used against me constantly on these blogs and on emails sent to me directly from the same libs who post here.

Again Ref, the blame goes back a long way. In fact to Jimmy Carter. But again, that still has nothing to do with this blog post. Please Ref, read the blog before you comment. Obama’s campaign promises turned into lies have no bearing on anyone and only can be blamed on the liar which has been Obama since he is our president and no one else. You know that. This blog is giving Obama suggestions to stop lying, admit the lies that I pointed out - which are unarguable - drop Obamacare since America doesn’t want the dems. version, then come back and do it honestly this time, and get Washington to focus on the economy. That’s what this blog is about. Do you think he can do any of this? Will he admit his lies?

jhayett
Sunday Jan 24, 2010 6:33 PM

CD...care to comment on the blog topic or is that too difficult? You got the email too I see?

referee33
Sunday Jan 24, 2010 9:36 PM

Jim; Did you write those words or did you copy them from someone else? I could care less about private emails sent to you, which I have absolutely no way of verifying. I do not believe that Pres. Obama intentionally lied to garner votes. I believe that the way the political process evolved caused the deviation from the campaign statements. If you insist on calling the statements from Pres. Obama lies, what do you characterize the statements from former Pres. Bush about the WMD that would be used against the US, lies or truth?

Christian Democrat
Sunday Jan 24, 2010 10:35 PM

Jim, I have absolutely no idea what "email" you are referring to. I was commenting about the post you made, so I was on topic - YOUR topic in YOUR post. I also referenced your actual blog topic, in that I have no desire to debate with you any longer due to YOUR constant name calling, offensive attacks on my character and faith, and YOUR derogatory mean spirited assasination of anyone that does not conform to your way of thinking. If you want to consistently refer to an email you received, then perhaps you should share it with the rest of us.

And before you say it again, I am not defending anyone else's behavior. I am pointing out YOURS, and the hypocrisy of you crying out against anyone else when you do the EXACT same thing you condemn!

If you want others to treat you fairly and with respect, do the right thing and lead them by example. Otherwise, this will be the last time I post on your account. And apparently, many others feel the same way.

jhayett
Monday Jan 25, 2010 7:30 AM

Christian Dem…when I didn’t believe you are a Christian I, as did others who also expressed the same concerns here on our blog site, had very good reason: you chastised me numerous times when those you follow and side with attacked me and others here very viciously. The worst word I used was “idiot.” So vicious, their comments were removed. One lib, who you stand behind, is averaging 2-3 comments a week being removed from complaints by many others than me. However, I thought we resolved all this and I did the Christian thing and took your word, not your actions, that you are Christian. I believed you but now you don’t believe that.
Maybe for the last time: I give back only in the tone of voice through my comments what you liberals give to me and others. I draw the line when it comes to the four letter words. You don’t receive the letters, still, and emails from those that blog here with such filth it will make anyone sick. Yes, sometimes you can feel my frustrations since every liberal, but one, doesn’t have the nerve or the decency to show their name or face. Why don’t you just address this blog where I ask if you believe Obama will come clean, tell the truth, and make the “hope and changes” he promised. If yes, can you tell us how? That’s all I ask in this blog

If you won't debate on this blog due to your statement "YOUR (me) derogatory mean spirited assassination of anyone that does not conform to your way of thinking." How do you then debate others who comment or blog here that are the real vicious villains? They have written very character assassination blogs about Amy and me yet you chimed in and still do. You are so blind to what is happening here. But that's why I left liberalism.

jhayett
Monday Jan 25, 2010 7:44 AM

Ref33..."Did you write those words or did you copy them from someone else." Ref, what words?? I've asked you this before.

Are you saying that Obama didn't lie with his campaign promises while getting you and others to vote for him? Gitmo, C-Span, ethical Congress and Senate, transparency, and many more. I have videos if you would like to see them that have Obama's actual lies in them. But you state that all this is only "deviation from the campaign statements." Is that your way of justifying Obama and the other liberal lies? This blog is about our current president Ref. However, with regard to your Bush fallacy with WMD's, can you answer what did Saddam use to kill thousands of Kurds? WMD’s Ref! Before you answer watch this video please. It's "just words" from those you may have voted for. There are a dozen liberals including pres Clinton that all said Saddam has WMD's and must be removed. Can't rewrite history Ref. Hillary beat you to that.

http://www.freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html

referee33
Monday Jan 25, 2010 9:07 AM

Jim: "what words??" I've answered you before. The statement you made, the one that is in quotation marks, that starts out with the words - "It's OK to use those four letter words" and ends with the words - "though most don't like it or want it." If the statement is placed in quotation marks, that means you are repeating what someone else has said. I'm asking that you identify that person.
I have always believed that in order to call a statement a lie, it must have been uttered with the intent to deceive. You must possess some kind of mind reading capability to be able to know what Pres. Obama was thinking when he made those statements. It simply cannot be proven, with the facts at hand, that they were uttered with the intent to deceive. It can be proven that the Bush administration, which implied that Saddam Hussein had nuclear weapons, knew that he did not have them, and thus did make statements with the intent to deceive - a lie. A decade earlier Saddam Hussein did have and use WMDs - gas - against the Kurds. The UN reported that Iraq didn't have WMDs since somewhere around 1994. If we follow your philosophy of every statement made that does not come true is a lie, then every weatherman who tells us we'll get 6" of snow and then we only get 3" is a liar - or every broker who tells us that a particular stock will hit $25 a share and then only hits $24.50 is also a liar. Intent is what defines a lie - and neither you or I can determine intent. We have to wait for history, many years down the road, to provide us with the answer to the question - was that statement made with the intent to deceive.

ksend
Monday Jan 25, 2010 11:23 AM

CD- can you explain what parts of being a democrat you believe in and follow? I'm a little confused on which parts coincide with also being a Christian. I don't want to start anything, but I just want clarification.

Well first, hello everybody. And no I don't believe that Obama will be able to get back to keeping his promises. A few friends of mine were talking and kind of making a joke about how he said he would take our troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan when he was running for the presidency. And as most people see, that is not happening. They were jokingly talking about how he maybe will eventually pull them out...after he puts them back in. What he said he was going to do, is nothing like what he is actually doing. This country will mostly down the drain by the time he is done with us.

I kind of also think, a few weeks ago, he was purposefully putting a lot of publicity on all the global warming crap because he was trying to get the publicity off of the bill he's trying to shove through Congress. He knows that people aren't going to approve of a lot of stuff that he's doing, so he's trying to cover it up and keep the attention off of the things he really wants done.

Is he deceiving everyone?

Christian Democrat
Monday Jan 25, 2010 11:44 AM

ksend: look under Alien 2.0's blogs. There is one titled "Christian Democrat". That is a guest blog I did on Jake's site to clarify my positions on certain subjects. It is not a complete picture of who I am, but it does touch on the major political issues.

Jim: I do not like being called an idiot. Period. I do not like being talked down to, and attacked because of my religious views (just because you do not understand them). It is disrespectful and offensive. And I have told you too many times to count that I do not condone anyone else's behavior. You are the one attacking me, Jim. If you have a problem with how others act, do not stoop to their level - hold yourself above the crap. Address yourself first.

Carl Hicks
Monday Jan 25, 2010 12:06 PM

I do have to wonder how and why so many christians judge other christians by there political ideals. Living in a country that was based on leaving a system that tied the two together it seems both sacreligious and unpatriotic at the same time to question anothers religious purity by their political beliefs.

jhayett
Monday Jan 25, 2010 1:15 PM

Carl...which Christian judged another Christian over political ideals? I'm have no clue what you are talking about or referring too. Can you help me out and give me some details?

Care to stick to the blog topic and maybe give us your answer as to whether or not Obama will turn things around and make good on his promises?

jhayett
Monday Jan 25, 2010 1:23 PM

CD..."I do not like being talked down to, and attacked because of my religious views (just because you do not understand them). It is disrespectful and offensive." I never talked down to you and only called you an idiot (def: a foolish or stupid person) when either you lied, stood behind the real vicious culprits. I never attacked your religion. I only questioned your honesty as to your being a Christian. However, I told you three times that I believe you even if your words or actions don't jive. Can we move away from this too perhaps?

jhayett
Monday Jan 25, 2010 1:34 PM

Ref33...the words in quotation are what I think is a conversation with one of these liberals with their kids. The liberals who are atheists and have no care how vicious and violent their verbal attacks are on me and my family. I always wondered how they raise their children when they can attack me with such vulgarity only when I put out facts that they can't debate and when they hurt their ideology.

The URL I gave you points to the FACT that you are not accepting the truth. All 12 of those liberal politicians said that Saddam had and used WMD's. What part of that do you not understand? And the UN still admitted under Res 1441 and up to the day we went into Iraq that Saddam still had not complied with that regulation. That's why Clinton and all the others said Saddam must go since he possess and used WMD's. Move your unwarranted hate for Bush and any Republican to a different subject. This one is stale and has been proven 100% wrong ref.

For the last time, can you please address the blog post and tell us if Obama can deliver on his promises and stop the lies?

jhayett
Monday Jan 25, 2010 1:36 PM

ksend...good point about the Cap and Trade/Global Warning issue with Obama. Though maybe not an outright lie, a pattern interruption perhaps. I agree

ahemmer
Monday Jan 25, 2010 3:57 PM

The fact of the matter remains - Obama lied to get into office. He pretended to be something he was not - a moderate. Once he won, whoa Nellie - and abrupt and sharp turn to the way, way, left. And the voters who were intentionally mislead by this man are wondering what happened. A severe case of buyer's remorse.
Obama will have to do a lot of "CHANGE" in his own attitude and ideas, and "HOPE" that he can convince people he has the best interests of our country at heart - not the best interests of rebuilding America in Obama's image. We have yet to see it.
The upcoming "Fate of the Union" speech should be very revealing. I refuse to watch it, because I simply cannot stomache the lies and arrogance that emit from this man. However, I will follow up and review what is stated the next day and how his speech is analyzed. Wonder what he even has to say anymore? Health care is a bust. He has no accomplishments to speak of. He has openly told so many lies before being elected that he has some 'xplainin' to do. Heard he is electing to address the middle class woes and the jobs situation. Well, Mr. Obama, your socialist drivel and ideology has contributed to the "middle class woes" we are currently experiencing. Maybe someone (Joe Wilson, perhaps) should be a scorekeeper and note how many times The One uses the words "I" and "me" as well as how many lies come out of this upcoming infomercial...

Andy_Kristensen
Monday Jan 25, 2010 10:21 PM

First- Jim, am I the liberal that had the decency to reveal their name and face?

And two- Obama has not gone to the way, way left. If he had, we would have almost no government left to govern us. Why don't some of you actually learn what "way, way to the left" means. Way, way to the right is when government is involved in anything. And if he was SOOOOOOOOOOOOO liberal, then why hasn't he shut down Gitmo, passed "socialized" healthcare, and gotten troops out of Afghanistan? Period.

jhayett
Tuesday Jan 26, 2010 7:56 AM

Andy...I tell you what. Why don't you answer all those questions and tell us what is soooooooooooooooooo way left?

And then, why don't you address my blog post and tell us if Obama will admit the countless lies he has been caught in (you have seen his videos or recordings from the 488 interviews he gave so far?) and if he will become honest and fix the mess we are in that he said we would. Like the stimulus not allowing unemployment at 8% or higher (last time I checked, the unemployment is at 10% and could go to 11% by the end of Jan). Let us know when you have a moment.

Christian Democrat
Tuesday Jan 26, 2010 2:18 PM

Jim, I agree with Andy. If Obama was that far to the left, liberals and progressives would be loving him like they did last November. And policy changes like DOMA, DADT, Gitmo, Afganistan, etc would have been addressed already. He is more the moderate than many liberals and progressives wished for. The real problem is the current Congress. The dirty party politics that are being played out there make it virtually impossible for any President to accomplish an agenda. Especially when the far right is out to get him at any cost, the moderates are playing games, and the liberals are getting fed up.

To address your questions, I have not yet seen "countless" lies. I have seen issues that have not been accomplished yet, estimates that have not panned out (that 8% unemployment rate you keep saying was a lie, was actually an ESTIMATE based on information available at the time - no one can predict the future) and frustration at incompetence and game playing. As far as Health care reform, again we go back to the problems of Congress. Nothing will be accomplished anytime soon, until the elected officials realize what is at stake - their jobs. And that includes BOTH sides of the aisle.

And again Jim, the issue is you calling me an idiot. Stop it. It is offensive and rude. You obviously don't think it is a bad thing...I find it degrading. You can disagree with me, but don't undermine what I have to say by calling me names. It just makes you look bad and makes people respond negatively to you in return.

jhayett
Wednesday Jan 27, 2010 9:47 AM

CD...Obama has been voted as the most liberal person in Washington. I will stop calling you an "idiot" and only call you "foolish and stupid" when you make comments that deserve "idiot." Usually lies only. Is that OK?

Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was the most liberal
senator in 2007, based on National Journal ’s vote
ratings. He shifted further to the left last year in the
run-up to the presidential primaries, after ranking as
the 16th- and 10th-most-liberal during his first two
years in the Senate. Sen. Hillary Rodham
Clinton, D-N.Y., also shifted to the left last year,
although she has generally been more moderate in
the ratings than her Democratic presidential rival.
Clinton was the 16th-most-liberal senator in 2007,
after ranking as the 32nd-most-liberal senator in
2006. (NJ published an analysis of Obama’s and
Clinton’s scores in our 2/2/08 issue, which is also
available at nationaljournal.com.)

ksend
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 7:03 PM

CD- thanks for clerifying for me.

Maybe Obama is a different kind of party. He doesn't completely form to any certain party, or maybe he gets satisfaction from being different? Maybe he is so far left that it's past liberal? His ideas are mixed. His views don't comform to one party because he changes them based on what crowd of people he is trying to please.

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