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I have a background in science and writing. I consider myself liberal, progressive, environmentally aware on many issues, but also believe that conservatism has a place and is valid.
This is the End
Let’s be honest. Decorum and mutual respect for other people and their opinions is dead in our country when it comes to ideological politics.
Let’s also be honest that hardcore partisans from both the leftwing and rightwing hate each other and live in a world detached from everyday concerns and common sense policies most Americans want.
I am no exception, I sling mud and insults back at others. At first I thought is was justified, but now I have realized that it is a never ending cycle. Blame and responsibility is in the hands of both sides. If you play the game YOU are part of the problem. I’ve been attacked and I retaliated, I justified lowering myself using personal attacks to full-fill a vendetta and that is all it was; a self feeding system of anger and hate that never ends. A never ending tiny cloned microcosm replaying the disaster of the war between the left and right at the federal level.
I did not consider myself a hardcore ideologue or partisan until recently. Until I listened to some music by the Subhuman’s that made me realize what I believed in my early twenties and what I have become now.
What did I believe about government and corporate powers?
“Democratic governments become corrupt because they end up being co-opted by large corporations and the rich ruling elites that most politicians are part of.”, after doing some reflection, not much has changed from 1989 to 2010, just the party in power and bickering over social policy.”
Yes, social policy by the way is what keeps the non-elite ideolouges fighting over low hanging fruit, while the top 5% of Americans get away with whatever economic thievery they want by fixing the “rules” to favor them.
I still believe this, except that in order to change the system, you have to be active and not only change it from without but change it from within. When you divorce yourself from the process and the system, you effectively render yourself obsolete and useless; That by being proactive is the only way to effect changes to the structure and system of government.
On the Rightwing and Conservatives:
Unfortunately, because they lost bad in the 2008 election cycle Republicans and Conservatives decided to Divorce themselves from the Democratic process by not even trying to effect change by offering “their” ideas and working “with” the democrats. By saying “NO” all the time, they have made themselves obsolete in the “legislative” process; Republicans have effectively made themselves obsolete, seceding their elected responsibility to their constituents to the democrats. It’s a petty tactic and is failing.
You can’t effect changes by taking yourself out of the process. You can’t change the system by being reactive. The Policy of “NO” from the right is exactly what this country does not need at this time. Ideological purity will kill your party and is killing it now because you have no moderates that can actually cut deals and work with moderate Democrats; well, maybe except for Scott Brown.
Ideological Purges are just going to isolate you more into a mob of angry bitter people, happily isolated in a fantasy world of “us vs. them” and justify winning by “any-means necessary” since anyone to the left of you will be considered morally and ethical inferior. Wake up! You lost the 2008 elections, take responsibility for the reasons for the loss, fix them, but you gain nothing from isolating yourselves!
Oh and drop the Bigot’s that support you. Support from those people does your side no good.
On Blogging, LLC, and the Banning of the “Hypatian Shore”:
People are not going to be receptive to your positions if you insult them. For instance, labeling all pro-choice people “baby killers” is a sure fire way to kill a debate. Calling liberals “communists” is another way to kill debate, while calling conservatives “Neanderthals” and “Fascists” does exactly the same. Scoring cheap political points in a 2 second sound bite by misrepresenting or smearing is another way to kill debate, etc… They will not show your views respect because they will not respect you. Disagreement should not be a trigger for personal attacks. It takes more power and more discipline to take the higher ground than the low ground and it is possible to fight back without lowering standards. A lesson I forgot about, but hope to take back.
Let’s face it people do not like to deal with concepts or evidence that contradicts their world view. We prefer to listen to those who re-enforce what we believe. The mainstream media “knows’ this and it is played out day after day by opinion based pundits who filter it for us, to make it easy and marketable. And this paridigram is played out day after day by the bloggers and posters of this blog site and this is exactly what JS wants this is why the “Discussion Rules” are not enforced.
The Journal Sentinel Corporation ethical standards are dismal when it comes to blog forums, which leads me to why my brother’s final blog was banned.
Exhibit A: The Actual Blog - On Plant Hayett™, First Citizen Hayett goes about his day in utter adulation of himself, casting alms to his ego, and aspersions to his perceived enemies. On Plant Hayett™, First Citizen Hayett does not recognize the very words he uses when he attacks others, because reality is dependent upon the sheer idiocy of First Citizen Hayett alone. Most people assume that Plant Hayett™ is a lonely place, but when a person, like First Citizen Hayett,makes his home there, there can be no room for anyone else. First Citizen Hayett™ + Planet Hayett™. Where masturbation is the only ritual of the day and idiocy has been trademark.
Scott Petersen basically warns Matt in his e-mail back that he pulled the following comment(s) off the site (at Jim or Amy). If you use this kind of language again, I will take your blog down.
Matt’s reply: I really don't care Scott. Hayett invites the abuse and you are surprised at the reaction? Perhaps you need to remind Hayett the rules. He doesn't follow them, and when my brother and I make a case about the abusive language, what do you do? You allow it. Please.
Scotts Replies that he has taken the blog down because Matt has violated the “terms of use agreement”, and he was sorry.”
Here’s the only part in the agreement we all signed that has very blunt teet: “Representations and Warranties: Submitter hereby represents and warrants that: (a) it is the original author or creator of the Submitted Content, (b) it has full power and authority to execute this Release and to grant the rights granted herein, (c) no other consents, authorizations or payments are necessary to permit Media Company’s full use and enjoyment of the rights granted herein, and (d) the use of any element of the Submitted Content will not violate or infringe upon the trademarks, trade names, copyrights, patents, rights or privacy or publicity or any other personal or proprietary rights of any person or entity, and shall not defame or libel any person or entity.
As you can see Matt said nothing that was against the “terms of use” agreement that we all sign to blog. Unless the word “masturbation” was the issue, but Scott Petersen never makes clear to Matt “what” language was at issue and what part of the “terms of use” Matt actually broke in his blog. Yet, why does Scott target Matt’s “comments” instead?
If Matt broke one of these, Scott never ever clarified which part of the user agreement he broke! And if you will see part (d) does not even apply to Bloggers but by the use of the Bloggers content by LLC and JS online.
Exhibit B: Slanders & Insults - Meanwhile Jim Hayett not only slanders me and other bloggers but freely defames posters as well. His behavior is present in his blog record. I suggest you do some research, before guffawing me. I don’t think I need to go over all the examples but here is a clear example of Slander if not a case of Libel, “"Jacob...you and these liberal understudies probably all carry Hitler pictures in your wallet and right next to bin laden." Jim Hayett
Here Jim explains WHY he is justified in using insults on a day to day basis: “But my choices of words are “liar, dumb, stupid, idiot, ignorant, and hypocrite.” I may have left a few out due to my memory loss, but never have I stooped to the level you and others have used on me or my family. But when I call you, CD, Onlyoneme, and others a “liar” or a “hypocrite,” I have facts to back those words up. Jake, when I called you a “pathetic liar” I did so because I caught you lying, again, about Bush’s tax cuts.
URL: http://www.livinglakecountry.com/blogs/communityblogs/83036417.html
Well Jim on Planet Earth when you label a person with these adjectives, ““liar, dumb, stupid, idiot, ignorant, and hypocrite.”, no matter how you rationalize it, They all are Insults clearly defined by discussion rules and if we are to take Scott Petersen’s reasoning then Jim would be guilty of the of “terms-of-use” agreement because you had made “de-famitory statements about me” The same agreement that Matt supposedly broke!
Exhibit C: Threats – There was Physical Threat allowed to published by Jim Hayett against me which spurred the Discussion rules in the First place. My original e-mail on 4/10/09:
Dear Erin,
I have to respectfully disagree with you.
He actually threatened the use of violence against me and Jim allowed him to as well. I find it hard to believe that JS Corporation should take these actions so lightly. 1) A poster making a physical threat, 2) a Blogger letting this sort of threat to be posted on the site.
Should not both of these people be held to task for this sort of behavior? How is this behavior ethical? How in one instance you slap Matt's hand for the Google thing, but at the same time ignore the obvious threat against my person and Jim who has allowed for this threat to be posted?
Could you at least provide me with the LLC blog guidelines, for both posters and bloggers? I would like to review them myself and if I must take this situation into my own hands.
I realize you get fire from the right-wingers on this blog site for being biased and they push you all the time, playing the refs on you to get an outcome they want.
Threats are different.
I have never complained before, not even as a poster for being treated with disrespect, but the threat goes too far.
Thank You, Jake
Jim, via a poster via his Blog that he had “complete” control over, threatened me! How is a “threat” even before the ”Discussion Rules” were written not a “huge” breach of ethics? Why was Jim not reprimanded by having his blogging rights, taken away for even a WEEK!
Exhibit B: Swear words - There is also another time where Jim used the word “bastard” a clear swear word in our language and Scott Petersen made excuses for Jim. I have it all in e-mail and is well documented. Scott would not enforce “Discussion” guidelines on Jim Hayett.
So why is Jim Hayett allowed to continually break the Discussion Rules and use Libel or defamitory language against me and other poster on LLC blogs without any repercussions from the Editor of LLC Blogs? It simply does not follow the precedent and rational that Scott Petersen set by banning the “The Hypatian Shore”.
THERE IS A CLEAR DOUBLE STANDARD AND A DIFFERENT SET OF RULES ON LLC BLOGS THAT FAVORS JIM HAYETT.
It is a well known fact between LLC bloggers Victor, Jeff, Sally Pla, Chris, and Me that Jim and Amy, on more than one occasion, tried to get Matt kicked off via complaining to Erin Mellone. There is one instance when Matt got his handle stolen and Jim and Amy did all they could to publicly slander Matt, even after Erin cleared Matt of all wrong doing. How was that not a breach of “discussion rules”!
I can only think of one solution: My theory is that Jim and Amy pushed Scott Petersen to ban Matt from Blogging on LLC. It is also well known that many of Waukesha Counties Christians were offended by “The Hypatian Shore’s”, criticism of Christianity and view on Atheism. I think he succumbed to the pressure to placate the angry mob to get them off his back! He as the ref and in sports terms, was played.
How hard was Scott Petersen pushed to have “The Hypatian Shore” banned?
It is Clear the Scott Petersen, even when there’s overwhelming evidence of Jim Hayett’s abuses above and beyond the word “masturbation”, and far after Matt was banned, will not “Hold” Jim Hayett to the standards in the Discussion Rules or whatever supposed “terms of use” agreement that Matt supposedly broke?
By refusing to hold “Fighting Liberal Lies” and Jim to the same Standard as Matt’s “Hypatian Shore” is has exposed the “bias” of LLC Blogs.
Living Lake Country Blogs and its editor has what appears to be a “conservative bias”, and for The Journal Sentinel, the parent company this is exactly what they wanted, to cater to the very conservative people of “Waukesha County”.
Yet it’s not that simple…“The Hypatian Shore” being banned was a mistake, and the editor of LLC Blogs knows it, it was for months and months in the top 5 hit blogs on the site before Erin was fired, it kept people coming to the website. This is the reason I have not been banned for personally attacking Jim Hayett and and This is the reason WHY with my last salvo of personal attacks on Jim, nothing has been done. I have felt no repercussion from LLC. WHY?
Because if I am kicked off it “instantly proves” conservative bias and It is far more entertaining to see me bash Jim Hayett, have him retaliate, then you pick your champion and watch us ” hit each other over the head with verbal clubs” rather than actually “discuss” an issue that may wreck your world view or change your opinion. We are being used as “political theatre”. It’s far easier to let us “Bash” each other than to have to do the work of enforcing standards on the bloggers and posters of the LLC blog forum. It’s pathetic and disgraceful.
And this is the reason why I am leaving:
I am not a hardcore ideologue and do not want to become one. You can’t effect change by sitting on the side lines writing a blog trying to communicate with the rightwing who are uninterested in discussion or compromise because they are so lost in the woods that they have no idea what they really stand for, that’s why all we are left with is bitterness and anger. Preaching to the converted may be self-gratifying but praise does nothing to change anything. I am going to start being proactive and actually do something productive with my time to effect change. It starts at the “grass roots”.
This is my Final blog for LLC because I am unwilling to be part of the mud fight of the JS business model by pitting the right and left against each other to create profits and I do not want to make them profits by doing their dirty work for free. I’m sure some of you will be happy I’m leaving; I only ask that you hold the bloggers you like to the same standards you dangle me from my ankles by! Okay? That means scolding them when they attack or insult others.
I am leaving LLC Blogs because I have learned that “I” am part of the problem and not a solution. In other countries ideologues take their hatred of each other to the streets were they kill and beat each other up over political disagreements, I do not want to be part of this when the “WAR” between the left and right becomes violent and is taken to our street, or justify a murder while condemning it! I will not justify or condemn actions through the blinders of “ideology”, a sure fire way to enforce a double standard. A double standard I have seen far far to often on these blogs. This is anathema to “me” and a path that I do not wish to follow.
One last thing: Lake Country, Waukesha County, you need to start taking care of your water resources, your aquifer’s are low, polluted, and full of radon, your lakes chock full of invasive species that destroy the ecosystems and crowd out bio-diversity. This is the legacy of a 3 acre perfect green lawn watered weekly, fertilized and chemically treated to kill pests. Exponential consumption of resources with lax regulatory oversight caused this problem and you have no one to blame but yourselves and the Politicians that you voted for.
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The Reason for Sally Pla Leaving LLC Blogs:
re: Amy and Jim and bullying on the Blog site
Matt just told me why you left; due to Amy's bullying of you.
I am sick and tired of the way these 2 treat other's they do not agree with. I ask that if you can, please add your reasons why you left and if you felt bullied on the Blog site. Matt left becuase of this also.
I know this may seem trivial, but they have to be stopped or at least JS to realize their actions.
Thanks, jake
Yeah, I stopped blogging because they were too nasty for me. I"m a weenie. :-) It was just getting too hard to stay positive. A few of my friends counseled me to stop -- they couldn't figure out why I'd bother -- sort of like banging your head against the wall. And then, what do you know, it feels so good when you stop. :-)
It does bother me to realize that they are still out there spreading all kinds of misinformation. But I have to say, I am heartened that all the Rush Limbaugh wannabes out there are being exposed and discredited these days for the negative, nasty influences that they are. Too many -- the vast majority, in fact -- of Americans want to work for positive change. To hell with the mudslingers.
Good luck to you, Jake!
Tomorrow is my last blog. Could I use your response and credit you with writing it.
Thanks, Jake
Jake - While this whole thing has been painful to watch, I will miss your opinions. There have been many topics that you have addressed that have encouraged me to do a little research on my own. For that, I thank you. Let us know if you decide to continue in a new venue and thanks for trying to get us all back on a civil road.
Have a great week!
Part 1
Jake...One of the rules for all is to be honest. I see you failed again. You would make a great journalist within our bias MSM. Know why? Not only dishonest, you left out most of the facts. Let me remind your readers one more time: Matt was kicked off for his attacks using violent and threatening four letter words against me, my family, Amy. See Jake, we saved all those emails. Oh, by the way, you failed to mention your threat to me. Remember that one where you "couldn't wait to see what you were going to do to me." How did that slip your mind? And the person you accuse of a threat to you? Did something you and your brother failed to do: Apologized to you! And last but not least, when Matt got kicked off, I went to LCR (you may call Scot anytime you wish to verify) and asked if I could get Matt to stop the vulgarity, would the LCR reconsider. I then went to Matt and asked him but received another four letter worded diatribe. I guess you now know the answer and why.
Part II.
However, I will miss our debates. At least when you decided to stick to the topics and not your normal insults and attacks. But I’m sure you will be back under some fake name using the same attacks and insults. Heck, you even told me and others your plans on insulting and attacking. That, Jake, I never did to you or anyone. At least not on purpose as you have done. Here’s Jake's very recent comment: “I will always attack you personally.” “I am personally attacking you, because I do not like you.” “I would tell him to fword-off” But I’m supposed to be kicked off for maybe using the word in the dictionary? Def: an offensive, disagreeable person. That word is in the dictionary, but the filthy words that begin with F or C and the others used by those you mentioned, are not in the dictionary. That’s why they got kicked off. For some reason you still go down ignoring the facts and the #1 reason why some got removed.
As I said to your brother, I wish it didn't have to be this way. I would very much like you to stay. But only if you stop the whining and the "personal attacks" that you all too often promised Amy or me you would continuous to do on us.
@jim: You stated "Matt was kicked off for his attacks using violent and threatening four letter words against me, my family, Amy."
Do you care to publish the "threatening" language? I told you to "F" off because you impugned Jeff Blackwell's patriotism - which I offered a public apology for.
Jake has already published the comment which got me kicked off the blogs.
YOU ARE A LIAR!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHFK1yKfiGo
I do not wish to participate in dialogues involving consistently uninformed opinions from Jim and Amy, either. Their opinions and their right wing propaganda can at times be amusing, their hypocrisy, twisted tales, and lack of factual knowledge is mind numbing. Living Lake Country is free to take this paper and website where they want, but both my paper and the website link are going in my recycle bin!
Matt...you used the f word and called me a f-word-r too many times here and at my home email address. The LCR also has the very filthy words (worse then F) you sent to Amy and her family as well.
At first I didn't go to the LCR. Others did. However, when I spoke to LCR they told me directly that they had enough. I then went back to you and LCR to asked if we could get all this resolved so you could stay on. I still would do this to this day since my wife, daughter, and I forgive you. However, your response back to me was to "F off."
Yes you did apologize for the Blackwell incident and I told you, and LCR, we accepted your apology. But then you go and do this all over again (at least this time not at my family). I still tried to get you back on the LLC blog site but I was told no. They had enough of your foul language. The tone of your rhetoric was very threatening to all.
Comp...I agree. I hate to debate uniformed opinions too. But you don't debate or even try to go after my facts and the truth (like my next blog). And when I support my facts, you refuse to debate. Why is that Comp?
MC_Pickard - I saw what you wrote about Jim and Amy on here. There will always be a debate on issues. But there is a certian respect needed. Foul language is unacceptable and unprofessional.
@jim: If you've accepted my apology -- this is the first I've ever read that you did btw -- then why do you constantly bring it up? Face it, it was your bad parenting that lead your family to reading the comment and it was a comment well deserved on what you said about Jeff Blackwell.
You've acted like a child this whole time. using your family to garner sympathy like Marie up there.
You may have have one time believed I was your friend, but that was never the case Hayett. Like Victor, I simply loathe the thought of you and the invective you daily spew on your blog.
You are a clown of the highest order. A buffoon. A slanderous liar and someone not worthy of my time. Go write your joke of blog, and maybe try to uncover a conservative lie for once.
You've driven Chris, Jake, Jeff, Victor away like Amy drove Sally away with her comments attacking her son.
Reap what you sow buddy. Reap what you sow.
btw... you never published the so-called evidence of me threatening you. Don't think that hasn't gone unnoticed.
Mc...done. you still can't even see the irony of your comments or what you have done but yet you still go back and insult my wife and me on an issue you know nothing about. Hypocrites. That's exactly what you and your brother are. Everyone knows it.
Good bye in this subject. Time to get back to what this blog used to be all about - until you and so may hate-filled liberals came along and couldn't get your way. The only ones who were forced to leave or had many of their foul comments removed were liberals just like you and Jake. And there are many. That's one of my top reasons for leaving your hate-filled, vile and vicious world of liberalism. We all know who and what you are.
The funny thing, I never hated you Hayett. Your assuming that there is anything substantial to hate. I simply find you a simpleton and a clown. I asked you time and time again to publish your results of your QJE-like study and then you went ballistic against me. You could never publish your evidence, which you did wrong. Stop crying about it and publish your results.
Pot kettle black buddy. Pot kettle black.
Sorry, MC Pickard.
I cannot sit quietly by while you make false accusations. I did not "drive Sally away" by making attacks on her son. I remember the blog and my comment. Sally was touting the fact that her son refused to say "under God" while saying the Pledge of Allegience" over his school speaker system. She was proud of him. Many other liberals chimed in and cheered his "independence" and actions. I disagreed - and stated that her son had been given a job do to. To say the Pledge. It was not his place nor time to leave out "under God" to make his own point. That was it.
That did not "drive Sally away." So stop making stuff up, and like Jacob has chosen to do. And Jim and I do not have such power that we are driving Jacob, Victor Ponelis, and Jeff Blackwell away. That is their choice. And all their reasons sound suspiciously the same - as though this was a Three Stooges discussion behind the scenes. Same day, same time, same station -let's announce we're quitting. So don't hang their defections on us. They are supposedly grown men, able to make their own decisions. Let them enjoy their retirement from blogging.
@Hemmer: Sorry lady, but you drove Sally away. I had a beer with her to confirm this fact. Victor, Chris Tarr, Jeff, will all confirm this too. Most importantly, Sally will confirm this too. It's why she unpublished the post when we still had power to do so.
You savagely attacked her son. Live with the fact.
Perhaps you are jealous that you did not drive so many bloggers and posters away like Hayseed - the clown.
This blog by Jim is a blatant violation of the rules that the bloggers had to sign. At least the ones Jake just posted in his blog. I would like to know why Jim wasn’t “punished” for this blatant rule violation.
http://www.livinglakecountry.com/blogs/communityblogs/63136147.html
“Representations and Warranties: Submitter hereby represents and warrants that:
(a) it is the original author or creator of the Submitted Content,
(b) it has full power and authority to execute this Release and to grant the rights granted herein,
(c) no other consents, authorizations or payments are necessary to permit Media Company’s full use and enjoyment of the rights granted herein,
and (d) the use of any element of the Submitted Content will not violate or infringe upon the trademarks, trade names, copyrights, patents, rights or privacy or publicity or any other personal or proprietary rights of any person or entity, and shall not defame or libel any person or entity.
Though Jim did put the author’s name at the end of the blog, he doesn’t say anything about where he retrieved the article from. (a)
Without permission to reprint the article Jim did not have “full power and authority to execute this release and to grant the rights granted herein. (b) & (c)
The finally without consent to publish said article Jim had no right to infringe on as he did on the rule as shown in (d). Without recievin the republishing rights to the story that Jim retrived from Pravda.
In fact this is what he had to say when I confronted him on this;
Onlyoneme
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Thursday Oct 01, 2009 10:49 PM
“jmark...my facts got you again as usual? No need to respond, we can all see that. Baaa, Baaa jmark!”
Just what do you mean by this Jim....”my facts got you again”??
. Are you taking credit for this article that you put in for the topic of this blog?
Because you have not presented any facts in this blog, just another authors work. In “fact”, you have yet to show where you found it
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Friday Oct 02, 2009 5:21 AM
Onlyoneme...no, the facts I printed! Can you ever address these liberal lies or what liberals are doing to America? Do you even care??? Russia is telling YOU to not socialize or follow Marxism. Are you that dumb or blind to not see any of this? can onlyoneyou think for yourself for a "change?"
MC Pickard: Sorry, man, I don't believe a word you type.
I never "savagely" attacked Sally's son. As I have stated numerous times, in my opinion, Sally's son did not do the job he was given. He took the opportunity to change the words to the Pledge of Allegience to fit his own beliefs. I felt that was wrong. Savage attack? Me thinks not. And all the lefties, of course, cheered, cuz he left out the words "under God!" Way to go!
Maybe that could be considered a "savage attack" on those of us who believe that "under God" should be included in the Pledge?
But all of this is just old re-hashing and boring. You and Jacob just seem to hang on to past ills and are stuck. It is probably good to get out of blogging and maybe into therapy. You might eventually find some happiness in life, although I think after November of this year, you both may sink into deep depressions...
@Hemmer: You don't know what you stepped in. You savagely attack Sally's son and you think you are not responsible. You and Jim are both responsible for driving bloggers away. You are both respsonsble for endless personal attacks that began with you attacking ones patriotism.
You are blind to your own perversion. This I understand.
And I really don't care Hemmer. I have my blog still and it performs quite nicely without LLC help - help that you desperately need for your mouthpiece. Otherwise, no one would pay attention to your anti-democratic fascist views in the first place.
@Onlyoneme: I've busted Hayett for plagiarism on occasion by him non-attributing material in the body of posts -- taking credit for other peoples work.
Recall, he is the one who can't produce a 3 year study on JS alleged liberal biases. I chided him to produce even a napkin. This he couldnt even do that. Given the fact that he did his copy cat study wrong and only counted the way he reads a story -- the clown didn't even see that for all those years he allegedly did his alleged study.
The clown.
Jim's lies and vile are directed at me because I called him out.
Now you too Jake, looks like Dustin had it right with his “Downfall of the LLC Blogs”.
I will probably persist for a while longer, maybe. I have tired myself of the abuse coming from the right-wing-authoritarians that reside here.
Matt - Just wait till Amy reads why Sally left, It'll be posted in her own words in a few hours.
And of course Amy couldn't resist to slander, her and Jim's response are going exactly to my plan, " It is probably good to get out of blogging and maybe into therapy. You might eventually find some happiness in life, although I think after November of this year, you both may sink into deep depressions..."
This statment is slander and she is also "wishing" deep depression on both of us.
Amy you should have stayed out of it.
Onlyoneme - Yep, good luck with the rif-raf.
As you have seen, if you ingore the Merton twins, they will follow you to other blogs on the site.
Too funny! What the Pickard brothers squared fail to realize and admit is that Jim Hayett and I do not have the "power" to drive other bloggers away. You give us waaay too much credit! No, Jacob and Matt, people chose to leave. No one forces anyone else to do something when it comes to the blogosphere. And if for some bizarre reason, you just cannot handle blogging - it is not because of Jim or I. It is because you either have nothing left to say or simply cannot support liberal viewpoints anymore. I'd have to say it's a combo of both. Happy Trails!
@Hemmer: I guess you didn't read Jeff and Victors blog close enough.
My you sure spend alot of time blogging don't you? Once you ask me if I had life outside the blogs.
I ask the same of you. Or is this what bored housewives that are barely employed do all day?
Smear slander, and skew.
MC Pickard: Jeff and Victor couldn't stand a conservative viewpoint. The facts got too much in the way of trying to battle via a liberal viewpoint. Too bad.
And actually, I have a day off here from work, which I am enjoying. I am not a bored person, nor do I consider myself a "housewife" - I am married to my husband, not my house.
Funny how you sure seem to have a lot of free time - are you a bored househusband?
Anyhow, too much wasted time spent here. Gotta run and walk my dog. Much more entertaining than listening to the crybaby drivel comments. Boo hoo.
Maybe you, Victor, Chris, Jake, and Jeff can all have your own "Beer Summit" once you are gone for good. This sure is a long good-bye....
@Hemmer: You sound so defensive. I love it.
Defensive? I disagree. Re-read my comment. What sounds defensive?
And I notice you never answered my question - are you a bored househusband? What do you do all day besides write comments on your brother's posts?
I'm oughta here. This has really gotten tedious. I'll think of you guys in November! Bye bye!
HAHA Amy is so defensive! She keeps coming back for more to clear her name. How transparent you are.
Gotcha Amy - Look Up.
Even though Sally does not credit you attacking her son, and regardless of if you apologized to her for it, her response PROVES that you and Jim becuase of your "nastiness" as she states, drove her away from bloggin at LLC.
Proof, and undeniable fact.
And please note the difference of the dates.
I haven't even read all of this, but I just have a few little comments:
I came on this blog because I always heard it being spoken about by my Mother, someone you will all recognize by the alias of Christian Democrat. It sounded like once upon a time it was an intellectually stimulating place to be to discuss politics.
However, I have only lurked and posted a handful of times because that has now changed. All everyone does is treat each other like the gum on the bottom of their shoes and try to use big words and act like these pompous, pseudo-intellectuals to make themselves feel better.
It is a sad thing that Jacob is leaving - but what I find even more depressing? That you all found it necessary to bad mouth him some more on his good bye post. Tell me, Jim and Amy - how much fun will it be for you two to just pow wow with each other on this blog once you've successfully caused everyone to leave?
Yeah, whatever happened to that claim from Matt and you that Sally "stopped blogging because I savagely attacked her son...." Hmmmmm. Seems that wasn't the case.
Face it libs, re-read the comments posted above. I find that those from the libs directed at Jim Hayett and myself are much more nasty than anything Jim or I have said. Yet, you seem to delight in being nasty and snarky. Go for it.
Then you cry when you are forced to quit blogging because of the "nastiness." Again I say, no, libs, you are giving Jim and I way too much power. We are not forcing you to quit. We are not blocking your keyboards. YOU - and you alone are deciding to quit because you cannot deal with facts and/or opinions different from yours. That's it.
Livinglakecountry.com will be a bit more friendly with you gone. At least the foul language and name calling will go away - unless, of course, you decide to return under other monikers (it's been known to happen!).
The vile attacks from you Hemmer won't ever end.
"name calling will go away".....Really? Has Jim decided to leave also? I only ask since he is BY FAR, the biggest culprit in the name calling on this site. Hemmer attacks other's faith, looks down her nose at everyone - and Jim calls everyone names and degrades them.
But hey, its everyone else's fault. Neither Hemmer nor Jim could ever admit to being a party to the toxic pool here. They can only point fingers at others, and hold themselves to some higher level of elitism because "they" are not "those stupid liberal liars".....
Just disgusting.
"Yeah, I stopped blogging because they (jim and Amy) were too nasty for me."
"It does bother me to realize that they are still out there spreading all kinds of misinformation."
Even when faced with the TRUTH directly from the SOURCE, regardless of her son, Sally gave me the reason why she left blogging on LLC. Yes it was her choice, but her reason was she was TRYING TO STAY POSITIVE was immpossible with AMY and JIM's "nastiness".
AMY you truley are blind to your own "self" and the sad thing is that you can't even be "honest" to yourself faced with the overwhemling evidence that you and JIM are the problem.
I'm on my way out, kind of like a "lord of the Rings: Return of the King" one, soon you will not have any "liberal bloggers to blame" when you lash out and slander someone.
You are the antthesis of "personal responsibility"
Were not given you and Jim any power when the blogsite is biased to you and Jim which allows you to bully.
A Bias that has more than been proven by now.
Just face it, LLC is biased in you and Jim's favor.
Oh, but Jacob, you are giving me and Jim lots of power. You gave us that power when you falsely claimed that we drove away liberals from the site, all the while ignoring just how nasty, foul, and angry you all were. Just go through this post and read the comments. Then come back and tell me that Jim and I are the bad guys! What a hoot. I could go to any of the liberal blog sites and find example after example of name-calling and blogs written, in which Jim and/or I are referenced in slanderous light. Look through Jims blogs and mine to see all the snide, inappropriate comments from liberal readers. Yet, we never responded in the same way.
We never wrote blogs about you or your partners in crime. In other words, we didn't stoop to your level. Then it is just so ironic that you have the nerve to call us nasty! Gosh, it is so funny.
And LLC and Scott Petersen are in no one's corner. Ever consider that maybe your posts/comments were inappropriate and deserved to be censured? I've always thought, in corresponding with Mr. Petersen over nasty comments to my blogs, that Mr. Peterson was more of a leftie than a conservative....
So falsely blame everyone for your own shortcomings, as well as MC (must run in the family). You must be following Obama's lead - nothing is ever his fault! It's always the other guy! Yeah, right...
And too funny that Sally left because of the "nastiness" and not some "savage attack" (really savage - saying I didn't agree that her son didn't say "under God" when reciting the pledge - oooh! Am I bad!).....She couldn't even pinpoint where the nastiness came from....perhaps both sides? Smack down....
Buh-bye, Jacob. Don't let the screen door hit your........on the way out....
Reality - Sally Pla June 3, 2009 at 9:46pm
Hi Jake, Yeah, I stopped blogging because they were too nasty for me. I"m a weenie. :-) It was just getting too hard to stay positive. A few of my friends counseled me to stop -- they couldn't figure out why I'd bother -- sort of like banging your head against the wall. And then, what do you know, it feels so good when you stop. :-)
Yup you won, now wallow in the cesspool that you helped to create!
I miss Sally.
Genuinely nice person.
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