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Photos: Man taken by Flight for Life; woman hurt

 

 

 

 

Two bicyclists have been taken to area hospitals with injuries they received in an accident with a car this morning in Nashotah.

The accident occurred east of Woodfield Court on Wisconsin Avenue.

One man was taken by Flight For Life. A woman was taken by ambulance.

Sheriff's Department deputies, City of Delafield and Chenequa police and the Lake Country Fire Department

  1. Every time that this happens, I am saddened more and more. In almost all vehicle vs bicycle encounters, the motorist is unharmed, and nearly all of the time, the cyclist sustains serious injuries.

    What will it take for motorist to pay attention and respect the right of those sharing the road?
  2. I, too, am saddened by this. As seems to be the case so often, this is a two lane road, and the scene as just past a narrow rise and a mild curve. The ambulance pictured pretty much fills the lane and the vehicle involved is not much narrower. In order to be completely sure that enough room was given, the motorist would have to have traversed the rise/curve with the left wheel across the centerline and the bicyclist would have to be on the shoulder side of the fogline. I believe BOTH drivers - bicycle and motor vehicle need to be aware (it was stated that the bicyclist was training) of the surroundings and be ready to take evasive manuvers. It might also help to train on something other than a county highway.
  3. WI cyclist, certainly you’re not seriously surprised that a several thousand pound vehicle would protect a driver better than a lightweight bicycle. Come on! As a bicyclist that ventures out on active roadways while training for trail riding, I am fully aware of potential for serious injury should I come in contact with a motor vehicle. I believe that it is incumbent on the bicyclist to assume that we are not routinely seen or our “space” respected on public roads. In a perfect world motorists would be fully aware of us, pedestrians, motorcyclists, etc. But this isn’t a perfect world.
  4. It is attitudes like patron0122's that get cyclists killed! By law, that bicycle has as
    much right to the traffic lane as does a car. Passing on a double-yellow line is
    illegal even if the car has to slow for a bicycle. The only safe and legal solution is
    for the driver of the car to remain well behind the other vehicles (yes, bicycles are
    vehicles under Wisconsin law) until the car gets to a place where it can pass
    safely, while giving the bikes the required three feet of clearance. I rode the
    county roads in the Waukesha County lake country last Saturday afternoon and
    three vehicles left much less than the required three feet as they buzzed past me.
    By the way, if you would have cyclists ride on something other than a county
    highway, where would that be, Interstate 94?
  5. Buena29,

    No, I am not suprised about that, i wias just stating a fact... i can be aware of motorist, but should I have to jump into the ditch every time a car approaches from behind for fear of being hit?
  6. Hey onemoremile
    come to Pewaukee and tell your biker friends to obey stop signs. If bikers want rules followed by drivers they need to fallow road rules too
  7. Please don't try to justify this trajedy by saying that you see cyclists running stop signs... there was not a stop sign in sight of this crash.

    Also, "polishboy", do you break any traffic laws lately? I am 99.99% sure that you have. Please have a little more respect.
  8. Bicycles are not the only vehicles on the road with rights. Drivers of motor
    vehicles also have a right to expect that they will be able to drive on a road up to
    a safe speed and that in an area of low visibility, there will not be an obstruction
    in their lane moving 30 mph slower than they are. I feel horrible for the person
    injured in this accident as I do all accidents and I'm not accusing him - just
    talking in general. But I think that bicyclists need to be cognizant of the fact that
    not are roads are conducive to bicycle travel and perhaps should be avoided.
    Many bicyclists don't seem to care about that and seem oblivious to the motor
    vehicles they are in the way of. I find that to be selfish and arrogant. It's like
    some pedestrians who cross a road without looking just because "the law says"
    they have the right of way. Well "the law" isn't going to pay your hospital bill.
    You've got to use some common sense and look out for yourself. Don't expect
    everyone else to always look out for you.
  9. I guess most of our bikers missed my point. It is unreasonable to expect drivers to crest hills and round curves while encroaching on the opposite lane of travel - just in case some bicyclist is in the road. Bicycles DO have just as much right to be there. Yes, passing any vehicle in a "No Passing" zone is not legal and the motorist SHOULD slow down until safe to pass. It would seem that if a cyclist would maintain the speed limit, there would be no problem. There are trails all over Waukesha county that do not allow motor vehicles. I believe some of them connect to trails in other counties, thus distance training is not a problem. By the way, onemoremile... as I said earlier, if a cyclist can maintain 55 or 65 MPH, I would welcome them on I94 (what a fool).
  10. Patron0122, just doesn't GET IT.

    Bikes were on highways before cars were invented. Cars have no legal right to intrude in a bike's space, period. Motorists MUST slow for bikes unless they can pass with 3 feet to spare. Guess what? You have to yield to horses and buggies, too. That's just the way it is. Get some patience and suck it up.

    Bikers who are illegally passed should be able to have tickets written to the illegal passers just like school bus drivers can.

    Bike paths are NOT places were serious bikers can ride. Real bikers are going along at 25-35 mph. If you do that on a bike path, you'll kill a kid or person walking their dog and not paying attention. The only proper place for traffic at those speeds is on the highway.

    Why don't we just switch your logic around a bit. Think bikes belong only on bike paths? How would you feel about cars being allowed only on divided highways? You can walk from the interstate to your house; the highways aren't open to you. Still sound good? Do you get the point? Having a couple paths just isn't going to make transportation work. Like cars, bikes need to go down highways to get places.

    And, btw, there are cyclists on the interstate. Their bikes have motors. Car drivers like to ignore them and kill those riders, too.

    The real sin is that in Waukesha County there isn't a chance in the world of the DA criminally prosecuting an impatient and negilgent jerk for negligent homicide...
  11. First, this is terribly sad. Jeff L. is a great human being who gives to others and
    the community. I find some of the comments on this site to be insensitive at
    best, shameful at worst.

    I think that if the driver broke the law, and that the driver's actions result in the
    permanent disability or death of this good man, that driver should face jail time.
    Additionally, that driver should do community service by speaking at local high
    schools about driver safety and how to obey all of the laws.

    It's curious that when a driver breaks the law, and it harms someone, people still
    find a way to blame the cyclist.

    If this motorist didn't observe the rules, and due care was not taken, that
    motorist should pay.
  12. Today I was driving on Lake Drive (WIS 32) in Milwaukee County at 4 pm, which is the start of rush hour. Lake drive is four lanes here, two in each direction. Two young bikers were riding side by side, totally blocking the right hand lane, forcing two lanes of rush hour traffic to perform a rolling merge to get by them. No one could give the "outside" biker 3 feet of clearance as he was riding almost on the dividing line. These bikers were not going anywhere near the speed limit (35 mph). Fortunately the line of sight was unobstructed but I shudder to think what might have happened if an irate driver pulled out of line to pass on the right at high speed (yes, that's illegal) to get past me. Do slow riding bikers have the right to essentially block lanes of traffic during rush hour? I would think slow riding bikers would be more considerate of their surroundings and traffic patterns; after all, I must do the same.
  13. Dick,

    I agree that we should all be considerate, and obey the rules. There are rules
    for cyclists and drivers in your example. There is a maximum distance that
    cyclists can be away from the right side of the road.

    Having said that, I wish that people would have some respect here. A man is
    critically injured, and the outcome is unknown.

    Please save the rants about cyclists for another time. I humbly request that
    people direct their energies elsewhere, and pray for this good man.

    I honestly believe that you're missing the point here. A motorist broke the law,
    and now a man has a head injury. Let's close this disrespectful thread down,
    please?
  14. Get off the road...... Where is your seat belt, cyclist? Do you have insurance? Do you pay taxes on the fuel your bike burns to pay for for the roads you drive on? So the statutes are wrong, think it is the only one?

    Get off the road!
  15. Mr Littmann and I have been friends for 20+ plus years. There could not be a more caring person around. He gave back to the community more than he ever took. The tragedy in the comments above is that they do not take into consideration the family and friends he may leave behind.

    Bicycling on the roads in that area are as beautiful as they are to drive and Mr Littmann knew all of them well. He is an extremely skilled cyclist. He always followed the rules of the road, respected motorists by riding to the right, wore his helmet and encouraged others to do all of the same.

    Bicyclists have equal rights to use the roads as any other motorist does. We are supposed to "share the road" and pass with courtesy. BTW "training ride" is just a fancy term cyclists use for going on a bike ride, nothing more.

    None of us were present at the scene this morning so we can't say for sure what contributed to this tragedy. What is ture is that if motorists were to slow down, use hands free cell kits, and treat cyclist with the same respect they hope to have if they or their kids were cycling on the road accidents like this one may be avoided. A few mph slower may have enabled the driver, who is a victim of this horrible accident as well to see the cyclists and pass without incident. How different the world would be to us if that happened this morning

    Rather than comment that the cyclists should not have been where they had every legal right to be enjoying a healthly activity maybe think that a husband and friend may not return home. At the end of the day if a mortist slows down to pass a cyclist/s riding along, even if that cyclist is in the wrong it may only have added a minute or so to the drive rather than stealing a life time of them from someone else.
    Please share the road
  16. I agree with Psychist that none of us were present at the scene.... I know the motorist in this accident and I know he feels so horribly devastated by what happened. I assure you, knowing him, he would trade places with Jeff. This was not a case of texting while driving or talking on the phone or just not paying attention or even going too fast. He was completely blinded by the morning sun on the way to work and did not see the bicyclists at all. Aren't we all to count our blessings that this same thing hasn't happened to us? There are a lot of bicyclists in the area where I live and I have been blinded by the sun too - even with sunglasses on - and would not have been able to see a bicyclist. For that reason, I am very vigilant on the road I live on - to watch for bicyclists - I love biking myself and hope others are vigilant. Let's all just pray for Jeff that he recover fully. I also pray for the motorist who feels devastated that this happened.
  17. This is a terrible tragedy, and some of the comments above are truly horrible. Jeff was a great man, and will be missed. As a cyclist it is a very scary reality that I share the road with some of the people who made such terrible comments above.

    Please share the road with cyclists, and if you feel that they are not obeying the law please report them to the authorities rather than buzzing them with your car or recklessly passing them.

    I am not suggesting that this was the case with this accident, but sharing some of my own scary experiences.

    RIP Jeff.
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