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How safe are our schools?

Dec. 17, 2012

How safe do you feel your kids are in school? Do you think something more can be done? Is greater gun control the answer? Are we doing enough for mental health awareness?

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Pierre Del Norte
Dec 18, 2012 10:39 AM

"Maybe a good start is to put God back in the schools." Some people suggest that the “Sandy Hook Tragedy” is the result of taking God out of the public schools. I have a far more plausible explanation. I believe the rise in gun violence in this country is more tightly correlated with the advent of the “conservative revolution”. We have witnessed conservative republicans enact their agenda for the last 30 years. They have enacted political solutions for all kinds of problems – both real and imagined. Now we are living with their consequences. Sandy Hook is but one example of the consequence of their “solution.” What is their “solution” to the epidemic of gun violence? Flood the country with more guns, more powerful gun, higher capacity clips, and more efficient killing machines, arm the teachers, arm the citizens, arm the good guys. Let’s inflict the whole country with the crippling paranoia that was once the sole domain of the truly “Gun Crazy Crowd.” The fact is, the GOP has become the party of stupid ideas. From Grover Norquist, to the NRA, to supply side economics, to climate change – The list of stupid ideas goes on and on and on. What will it take to end this insanity?

Pierre Del Norte
Dec 18, 2012 10:47 AM

So here we have an elected official, who also blogs here at LLC, whose job it is to oversee the administration of one of our public schools. She posts a video from someone who she obviously shares a strong point of view. Using a video, that reflects the utter extreme in social and political thought, she aligns herself with someone who can only be described as inhabiting the outer-most fringe of social behavior. This elected official uses this despicable tragedy to suggest that the President of the United States is a narcissistic, self-absorbed, cold-hearted socialist. And then, not being satisfied with that particular string of disparaging adjectives, she continues – “Sadly, the president of the United States is a sociopathic socialist. No feelings. No empathy. Just a puppet - striving for power at the behest of the string-pullers.” Finally, this elected official, who is in a position to develop and approve school policy, including security, suggests - “Having a few armed individuals within the school is not an outrageous or unreal suggestion. We know that many in society are unstable. Why not have a few well-trained, responsible individuals who volunteer to be "protectors" armed - with the know-how of how to use a gun? What is so wrong about that? Let's arm the "sitting ducks" so they CAN defend themselves and save the lives of innocents in the process.” To all the voters of this school district, please take a moment and understand the extreme manner of thought that this person exhibits and seriously consider the implications of having this person in a position of power.

jg | summit
Dec 26, 2012 8:23 PM

Yes, we need to disarm US citizens and take all their guns away. That way we can be more like Cuba, North Korea, the old Soviet Union and many other dictatorships around the world. Only the goverment and the military should have the guns so they can keep us all in control. Sure makes a lot of sense to me......... This Pierre Del Norte guy proves that liberalism is a mental disorder. As usual, we have the liberals blaming the guns for violence instead the person who pulled the trigger. Funny how states and municipalities that have the strictest gun laws also have the most gun crimes. Look at all the killings in Chicago, New York and DC. Gun laws not working too well there. Makes a lot of sense to restrict law-abiding citizens from having guns, so only the criminals will have them. A hard concept to understand by liberals.

Pierre Del Norte
Dec 28, 2012 11:19 PM

"Yes, we need to disarm US citizens and take all their guns away. That way we can be more like Cuba, North Korea, the old Soviet Union and many other dictatorships around the world. Only the government and the military should have the guns so they can keep us all in control." - jg - summit Straw Man jg - very weak argument. NO ONE IS SAYING TAKE AWAY ALL THE GUNS! As I Said - Let’s inflict the whole country with the crippling paranoia that was once the sole domain of the truly “Gun Crazy Crowd.” You jg are the personification of that "gun crazy crowd." What is your “solution” to the epidemic of gun violence? Let's everybody go "Gun Crazy."

TR | Hartland
Dec 31, 2012 7:15 PM

Teachers should be trained and provided with handguns. This is done in many states and several local teachers have agreed with this idea.

Pierre Del Norte
Jan 02, 2013 5:10 PM

TR - You made some bold statements there - anything to back them up? You know, like a source, or a link to a source? I heard several local teachers thought it would be a good idea to arm the kids as well. You know, just make "Personal Defense With an Assault Rifle" part of the first and second grade curriculum.

TR | Hartland
Jan 03, 2013 7:57 PM

Pierre, Texas and Utah are doing this based on articles I have seen. I think teachers with guns have been available in Utah for while. The violence is the problem. I grew up in the 50-60's and guns were in almost every home and nothing like the violence and anger we have now. I have no answer for that. Removing guns will not end the violence.

Pierre Del Norte
Jan 04, 2013 9:28 AM

TR – That was a Fascinating response. First, conservatives declare war on teachers and now want to arm them with Bushmaster assault rifles? Our teachers are asked to solve all of the socioeconomic problems of contemporary society that come flooding into our schools, while at the same time successfully teaching their students to some meaningless standardized test. And if that was not enough - We are now going to ask them to be an integral part of a well-armed first-response team to address an "Active Shooter" situation in their school. What next TR? Arm ushers in theaters, clerks in malls, workers in beauty salons, or congregants at our places of worship? Now I get it TR - Let’s inflict the whole country with the malignant paranoia that was once the sole domain of the truly “Gun Crazy Crowd.”

jg | summit
Jan 04, 2013 11:16 AM

It's interesting that barack obama's kids have 11 armed guards in their school in DC. There are other prominent liberals that send their kids there as well. Funny that they don't seem to have any shooting problems there and the parents don't seem to object. Maybe barack should start by eliminating these weapons from this school. Then it will be safer for his daughters with no guns on the premisis. Also interesting that Illinois is the only state without conceal carry laws and they have one of the worst (if not the worst murder rate) in the country. Another example of liberal politics at work. There were over 400 murders last year in Chicago (more than New York City). Looks like those gun control laws are really working well. That's what you get when only the bad guys have the guns. Pretty easy to figure out if you have any common sense but very difficult to comprehend if you are a liberal. Funny how these elite liberal politicians and "celebreties" want to take away our guns but they have no problem with having body guards with guns to protect them. As usual, they are the epitamy of hypocracy.

Pierre Del Norte
Jan 04, 2013 12:39 PM

Remember when we relied on the local police department to provide public safety? Ahhh - the good old days. That was before all those gun crazy cowboys, all those certified psychotic gun crazy people took control of the NRA. That was before NRA put the GOP in a political hammer-lock and made sure not gun control legislation, if it was passed in congress, would have loopholes the size of freight trains to drive through. Chicago? - It is just an island surrounded by jurisdictions that make gun purchases as easy as pie. Yea jg - that is the answer - Flood the country with more guns, more powerful gun, higher capacity clips, and more efficient killing machines, arm the teachers, arm the citizens, arm the good guys. The NRA should be proud of themselves.

jg | summit
Jan 08, 2013 9:04 AM

It's amazing how how pierre mentions "crazy" conservatives over and over again. Maybe he needs to look in the mirror to see someone who is really crazy. Maybe it's time to take his medicine. It's amazing that conservatives are the source of all evil and liberals are pure and innocent. It's hard to think rationally when your mind is filled with hate, like most liberals. They always say they are tolerant and caring but in reality, they are the most intolerant people in the world. All you have to do is look at the hate-filled protesters in Madison the last two years. If you don't agree with them you are crazy or evil, not just that you have a different oppinion. It's hard to take them seriously. Problem is, when they are in power, like democrat politicians, they can really screw up our lives. It's too bad pierre thinks like he does, but he is entitled to his oppinion, just like the rest of us do.

Pierre Del Norte
Jan 08, 2013 1:23 PM

Some common sense from Gen. Stanley McCrystal. After the add, about the 6:00 mark http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/ns/msnbc-morning_joe/#50395600

Pierre Del Norte
Jan 09, 2013 10:06 AM

Yea, jg. Guess what? - I am a gun owner. I love to hunt. I support the Second Amendment to the constitution. I also believe, as does the Supreme Court of the United States, that reasonable federal gun control laws are entirely constitutional. Where we differ jg, is what we consider reasonable. I just think what Gen. McCrystal is advocating is quite reasonable. And, I think what the NRA is advocating is radical. That is why I fully support the federal government enacting reasonable gun control legislation.

Pierre Del Norte
Jan 10, 2013 11:47 AM

jg - If you look in the mirror, you would probably see someone like Alex Jones. Take a look..... http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/07/us/piers-morgan-guns-debate/index.html I could not dream of a better spokesman for the perpetually paranoid, anti-government, NRA worshiping, gun-crazy-crowd.


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