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Pewaukee may be interested in Lake Country Fire and Rescue consolidation

LCFR said service only feasible if Hartland, Delafield decide to merge

The Village of Pewaukee is "bothered" by the costs associated with its fire and emergency medical services through the City of Pewaukee, according to President Tom Calder. Officials have decided to start looking elsewhere, beginning with nearby fire consolidation talks already under way.

"I look at the rate history - in 2004, we paid $1,740 per call. Our new rate is $5,796 a call. You look at the challenges we have with our budget, and you look at this total amount … that is a significant part of our budget," Calder said.

More specifically, a fire call will be $5,796, and an EMS call will be $884 for 2013. Last year, they call rate was $5,154 per fire call and $827 per EMS call.

The Village of Pewaukee currently contracts for those services with the City of Pewaukee. While the board made it clear that there are no complaints over the quality of services, trustees are concerned by the costs.

In total net expenses, for 2012, the village is paying $808,135.45, after ambulance billing revenue is figured. It paid $788,566.14 in 2011 and $705,993.95 in 2010.

"I think we need to take a serious look at possibly some options or thinking outside of the box, to see what we might be able to do and look at what could help save this community," Calder said.

Calder and some village trustees have indicated they would like to explore the possibility of joining Lake Country Fire and Rescue (LCFR) which serves the City of Delafield and the villages of Nashotah and Chenequa.

Nashotah Village President Rich Lartz said he and Calder have had brief and informal private discussions about the Village of Pewaukee's possible interest in being served by LCFR.

Lartz and Delafield Mayor Ed McAleer said LCFR officials could not consider the Village of Pewaukee joining the consolidated department until Pewaukee village officials submit a formal request to LCFR. No such request has been submitted, according to Lartz and McAleer.

Others interested in LCFR

A 15-member consolidation committee is considering the possibility of expanding LCFR's service area to include the Village of Hartland, the Town of Delafield and the City of Oconomowoc.

Lartz said the outcome of those discussions could determine the feasibility of LCFR serving the Village of Pewaukee.

Lartz said if Hartland and the Town of Delafield decide not to consolidate with LCFR, it would be impractical for the department to serve the Village of Pewaukee because LCFR's service area and the village boundaries are geographically too far apart, according to Lartz.

All of the communities currently served by LCFR had firefighters, equipment and fire stations to contribute to the consolidated department. The Village of Pewaukee does not have its own independent fire department.

Meanwhile, McAleer and Lartz said LCFR plans to continue discussions with the City of Oconomowoc, the Village of Hartland and the Town of Delafield about the feasibility of those three communities' fire departments being consolidated with LCFR.

Prompting negotiation?

On the other hand, the Village of Pewaukee could be flexing some muscle, too. Several board members pointed out that even inquiring about different emergency services might prompt the City of Pewaukee to renegotiate the fire-EMS contract at lower costs.

"Either way, we come up more viable, more cost-efficient options for the same quality, or, another option would be, the fact that we're looking, all of a sudden Pewaukee wakes up and says 'Now, wait a minute. We don't want to lose this community,' " Trustee Joe Zompa said.

"Oh, their costs would go right through the ceiling if we bail," Trustee Dean Flowers added.

Regardless, it would be difficult for the village to join if the Village of Hartland or the Town of Delafield were to back out, according to Calder.

"We talked about this 15 years ago. What this county needs is a regional fire department. Take the counties, split them into four equal parts. One chief, one county executive," Trustee Paul Evert said.

"You just said the magic word," Zompa said. "One chief."

  1. A regional fire department is not an option, this county can't afford it. Taxpayers are already paying a significant amount of money for taxes, and in this economy with unemployment as high as it is, the taxpayers can't afford any more. I think people over-estimate the savings of fire department consolidations.
  2. Would it be a better decision for the Village and the Town of Delafield and possibly Hartland or Merton to consolidate together? It doesn't seem like LCFR can merge with all the communities that may be interested at the same time.
  3. There is one problem with this plan by the village, the startup cost would be more than you
    would save in the next 20 years. As the stated in this article the village dose not own any
    fire or EMS equipment or stations. A new station $2.5 million, fire and EMS apparatus:
    $550,000 per engine (at least one) and $175,000 per ambulance (need 2). Total minimum
    cost to start up to about $3.4 million (numbers are estimates based on what the PFD
    capital budget is now) I am sure LCFD would pass all these costs onto the village. All that
    to save maybe $100,000 per year. Compared to the surrounding communities Pewaukee
    gets a great service for the cost. Just take a look at surrounding communities budget, their
    service levels and response times. Just some stuff to think about before just jumping on
    the whole consolidation band wagon. Now if the City would go too, then there would be a
    lot of money to be saved but, let’s be honest, when was the last time the village and city
    ever did anything together without controversy. I support consolidation in the fire service
    when it makes sense, but without a consolidation of the entire PFD I think it would be a
    bad idea
  4. The City of Pewaukee Fire Department is out of control. Take a look at the stations, all oak & brick,nothing but the best. Now take a look at the equipment, how in Gods name do we need a $600,000.00 latter truck that responds to every call. Talk about consolidating service why don't communities come together and share these types of equipment? Klin have you ever talked about these things with your neighbors, you were quick to get rid of the PD!! Then move on to wages. Did I not read where the fire chief in Pewaukee is making around $100,000.00 per year in wages with a take home car!! In these times Klein and council where is your head. The Pewaukee Fire Department is a bottomless pit. Wake up people, we can't keep spending like we are. Village, if you got any brains, you will do whatever you can to get out of spending a big portion of your budjet to finance this goldmind. One final note, I see that the fire department can't even take care of their own lawns, yes they have a lawn service come in!!!! Taxpayers wake up.
  5. Mr Honor... I'd like to submit to you that I do agree on one thing. One being that communities could pool some monies together for more expensive trucks that could be shared. The problem that arises is the cost sharing formula. It's easy to suggest and talk about, however getting two communities to agree on the final price tag often turns into the deal breaker. Sound familiar? Also, if you have questions and disagreements as to why the firefighters do this or respond to a call with that...have you asked the department why?? Seems to me you are making broad assumptions based on little fact. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Unfortunately we've moved beyond the days of nearly free fire and ems protection in these parts due to the non-existent availability of volunteers in this area. I submit that the city is getting fantastic service at a reasonable price? And for the village...they made the decision to rid themselves of their piece of the pie in terms of firefighting capital years ago. They are also receiving top notch service at a reasonable price in my opinion. As far as how the stations are constructed, I do believe the city has ordinances that direct the common council to accept the lowest bid on construction. Brick and oak seems a bit far fetched. Amazes me to this day how people like to drag down the ones that are there to save our you-know-what in a time of need.
  6. "Oak and Brick" "Latter truck" "responds to every call" "budjet" "Goldmind"????? If these are examples of the amount of time you have invested to post factual information, then everything you've stated couldn't be more off base. Instead of spreading misinformation, maybe you should take some time to acquire some actual facts. Then post your comments. I'm sure the PFD can provide you with all kinds of run data that would clearly show their "latter" truck doesn't run on every call. I'm sure if you also read the Fire Chiefs job description you would see that as a Fire Chief he is required to respond to a multitude of incidents from home, sometimes in the middle of the night, sometimes requiring the use of emergency lights and sirens. Sometimes risking his skin to save yours. The Fire Chief has done nothing to deserve a nonfactual personal attack. But then again, it's easy to sit and hide behind a keyboard and speak your mind, isn't it? Time to pick a new article to post on Mr. Honor because you are way out of your league on this one.
  7. Mr.Honor...Speaking as someone who has spent considerable time visiting said fire station(s) as the spouse of a firefighter allow me to say the "oak and brick facade isnt all that great. Yes, the station out by WCTC is beautiful, but it's also a NEW building. Talk to the planners about that one. The one on Pewaukee Road...the old station? Considering these FF's spend 24 hours there - waiting to save lives mind you - it's pretty dismal. As far as the Chief having a car - if you'd have taken a minute before your rant, you'd have learned that yes, there is a car he takes home. Why, you ask? Because when your house goes up in flames at 3am on his day off, guess where he goes? To work. In the Department vehicle which is outfitted with radios, siren & lights. The "latter" truck you hate so much because it goes on all sorts of calls? That has a bunch of rescue equipment on it that doesnt fit in the other rigs. They dont necessarily know what they're going into, so I ask, would you rather they have too much equpiment or not enough to save a life when it's you on the cot? Share rigs? Great idea. That way when there's a snow storm or something, and the PFD is out at a fire, and running 5 EMS calls all at the same time, we can tell the communities we share rigs with "gee, sorry.....you're gonna have to wait until they get that fire put out, the "latter" truck is being used now. We'll let you know when they're back."
    I understand being a tax payer, and seeing what you may call waste. But good Lord, please take a look at what these people do for your community before you start in on them! No raises to speak of for officers, long hours at work - on their days off, for no extra pay I may add! They plow snow in their own lots, and yes Mr. Honor, sorry to say, but they do normally cut the grass at each station. They also clean the staion, they do not have maids, or cooks. And they do their own food shopping.
    I could go on for pages. But do I really need to?
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