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Sources: Walmart to be proposed at Pabst Farms

Mayor, Pabst spokesman say retailer is speculation

City of Oconomowoc - Pabst Farms mall speculations have cropped up recently, and talk has gained momentum with speculation that Pabst will soon propose a Walmart for the space. Two sources to the Focus have indicated they heard Pabst is going to propose a Walmart on the site.

Mayor Jim Daley recently appointed aldermen James Larsen, Dave Nold and Mike Miller to an ad hoc committee to discuss "imminent" development at the site with Pabst officials. The group will meet in closed session Monday. Daley said he didn't anticipate anything being discussed in open session for at least two weeks.

When asked whether he could comment on the potential for a Walmart to be part of those discussions, Daley said any assumption on a specific tenant is premature.

"This is an exploratory meeting to start a conversation, and I don't know all the facts," Daley said of Monday's meeting with Pabst officials. "The meeting is to begin negotiations with Pabst and the city; however it's important to point out that this committee has no authority.

"It's just an exploratory group to start a conversation and get information," he added.

Pabst Farms spokesman Thad Nation agreed with the mayor's statement. "The mayor put it well. We continue to talk to retailers and look at our development plan, which remains the same as the one the city passed in 2011," Nation said.

In 2011, the city approved an amended development plan for the Pabst Farms Town Centre that would have the project built in phases instead of all at once. "As we secure retailers, that's when we will be building," said Nation.

However, exactly what retailers are possible is up in the air. Nation said there has been speculation for years on what types of retailers would end up at the Town Centre. And, he said, since the project was proposed more than six years ago, some of the possible stores discussed then as likely tenants don't even exist anymore.

"From the time it was proposed to today, we have gone through the second-worst economic downturn in the nation's history. The stores we talked about before literally don't exist," said Nation.

Both Nation and Daley said because so many retailers have gone out of business or closed stores, a large amount of vacant retail space has cropped up.

"That (failing economy) created a tremendous glut of retail space, and that's where retailers looking to expand went first and they could get good deals," said Nation.

Daley agreed.

"There has been a movement away from expanding brick and mortar in today's retail economy. When you have people no longer there, you create space available in prime market areas, and when those areas become vacant, the landowner often reduces the price significantly," Daley said.

Nation did say that as we start to see a bit of economic recovery, Pabst officials have seen retailers interested in building.

The mayor said the Common Council will discuss in open session any decision forthcoming on approving a change to the original development plan.

  1. I suppose anything's possible, but there's already a Wal-Mart Supercenter in Delafield. just five miles east on I-94. It's hard to see Wal-Mart closing the Delafield store after just expanding it.

    It's hard to see the Kmart surviving if there were a Wal-Mart across the street from it. And a Supercenter might take a bite out of sales at the Pabst Farms Pick-n-Save as well. I'd hope the Pick-n-Save would survive, as it's one of Roundy's finest stores. But I think trading the Kmart for a Wal-Mart would be a pretty good deal.

    In any case, this is a prime retail location, and it's sure to get developed for retail someday. Therefore, we can afford to be choosy and to make demands on the developer to produce an attractive development that will be an asset to the area.
  2. This better not happen. We don't want a trashy Wal-Mart moving in when have Delafield's right down the road. If this happens we can say hello to more vacant building in Oconomowoc!
  3. Outstanding! This is the kind of out-of-the-box thinking that we've come to expect from our elected leaders. While we're at it, let's throw in a Kohl's, Menards, and a Mickey D's so that we look like every other exit ramp along I-94. Oconomowoc's status as a destination location will be certainly be secured then.

    To quote our visionary leader, "When you have people no longer there, you create space available in prime market areas, and when those areas become vacant, the landowner often reduces the price significantly," Daley said. Ironically, this is also Jimbo's economic prediction of what's going to happen to the resale value for the existing home owners in Pabst Farms.

    Come one fellas, put your big boy pants on and do the hard work of finding a quality retailer to begin with. Don't settle for the first pretty girl that bats her eye's at you. You can save that for the bar.
  4. Thad Nation? Paid by Peter Bell to put lipstick on the pig. Thad, you take the big box, place it in beautiful Shorewood and see if you're re-elected to the village board. Stay in Milwaukee.

    Daley playing the cheerleader again for a developer again? What developer doesn't this guy work for?

    Communities all over America are raising the standard for retail development. Only in Oconomowoc do we lower it. What was promised is what we should expect. Show some pride Oconomowoc, expect more.
  5. Wow, Walmart, KMart, Aldi and Goodwill. Good to see their keeping it classy on the Pabst Farms side of town! I would love to see that disgusting KMart disappear by any means possible, but a Walmart is just horrifying. Sorry, but you couldn't pay me to buy a house in the "Lake Country's address of distinction."
  6. I am tired of the "few" people in this town who expect the mall to have all speciality shops and nothing for us regular people. I would love to have a Wal-Mart here. It means I don't have to waste my precious gas to drive to Delafield or Watertown for my shopping needs. I'm sure there will be other stores that will meet your needs and there are speciality shops downtown where you can shop. There has to be something for everyone not just the elite throwing their weight around and turning up their noses on a Wal-Mart.
  7. YUP, an upscale development! The last thing we need is more made in china stuff. support local stores and manufacturers.
  8. I certainly hope that our councilman (Mike Miller) and our councilwomen (Cathrine Slattery) will weigh in on this Wal_mart issue. Especially Slattery as this will lower the value of her home in Pabst Farms and many others in that development.
    Mayor Jim, whatever happened to merger talks with the Lake Country Fire Group? Guess, he is to busy being wined and dined by Wal-Mart these days. The overall safety of his community is now secondary to him. We already lost Summit Fire Department, and we are certainly unstaffed and equipped for the size of Oconomowoc. Possibly we need a new crop of elected officals who care about our overall safety. Make sure you tell Wal-Mart our fire department is undersized!!
  9. I am sure they did some market research, and provide stores that fit the income of people in the community. The problem is that Oco has a poor urban community, and a large portion of elderly in all the retirement "complexes" so that is who they are going to cater to. Aldi, Goodwill, Kmart, McDonald's and more grocery stores that you can shake a stick at. They are trying to market to the people that live on the lakes, where there is a lot of money, but it goes out of the community. So they hit the largest downturn in the economy, look at Delafield, lots of money out there. I don't think that anyone likes the idea of another Walmart out here, and the message it sends. So the "board" has to focus on quality retailers/businesses that offer value, not cheap, not high ticket. They should all take a trip to bayshore and see what type of "community" they created with the shops and entertainment down there.
  10. scupper1: merger talks with Lake Country Fire Dept are still in the works and moving forward. But you are absolutely right that the fire department is understaffed and vastly underfunded. The city has always been more concerned with acquiring more land and constructing pretty buildings than with public safety. The priorities are greatly misplaced.
  11. How far Oconomowoc's expectations have fallen. Remember the talk of compromising from the initial expectations of Von Maur, Nordstrom's , Sak's Nieman Marcus to the DDR - type stores like Boston Store, Macy's Dillards,...

    http://fullyarticulated.typepad.com/sprawledout/2007/12/new-pabst-farm.html

    Way to leverage a TIF to lure in the elusive WalMart. You hit the jackpot.
  12. Oconomowoc....what an absolute mess. So sick of hearing "it's the economy" joke of an excuse. Downtown and PF could've/should've been completed years before the economy was even in question. Everything they've touched over the past twenty years is halfway completed....at best. Tackle one thing at a time, get it done, and move on.

    Downtown business has been destroyed. An entire city block, right downtown, is an embarrassing eyesore, not to mention the massive amount of tax revenue lost over all these years. We were told "more green space, more green space", but let's put up a big condo developement right on the lake, instead of the blighted block where it should be. Future village green? (lawsuit against building owner) Parking for the new community center? (eminent domain lawsuit)

    Pabst Farms? Wow, I don't even know where to start. What WILL happen though, is the Walmart issue will divide this community worse than the whole Aurora hospital fiasco. (BTW-both hospitals are still open and making money, right?)

    Can't really blame any one individual, this has been going on for so long.
  13. How about a Target instead!! Would love to see a Target in Oconomowoc...it would
    be much better than a Walmart!!! I agree we need something in town rather than
    just Kmart- that store is just awful, but please consider a Target first!!
  14. Suggestions? Stop everything. Tell Pabst Farms to pound sand for now, tell the people to walk to the community center, leave the village green alone, let Fong's cook food for a couple more years, and focus on the heart of your community, your downtown and it's lakes. Go further into debt, and build a low-profile two-story parking structure in the back lot...you won't even have to remove much earth, it's already dug out. Tear down all the buildings on the blighted block and plant grass and put up a swingset for now, not only will it look nice, it might actually sell. Finish fixing the roads....and go from there...one project at a time...but make sure they're completed first.
  15. From Nordstroms to Walmart....my how this project has tumbled.
  16. I really don't think we can afford a WalMart, They pay their workers so little and give them so few hours that a WalMart worker qualifies for foodstamps and medicade. A walmart will cost us taxpayers money.
  17. I am opposed, heart and soul, to Walmart in Pabst Farms. Oconomowoc is special because it does not look like just another sprawling suburb, and Walmart would destroy that. We can develop Pabst Farms in a way that preserves Oconomowoc's unique character and place on I-94.
    And it goes deeper than that. This would be a serious, perhaps fatal blow to many of our local businesses, who care so much, who do so much for our community (downtown events, author visits by Books & Company, etc.).
    Please, please develop with intelligence and care at Pabst Farms. Please say "No!" to Walmart at Pabst Farms.
  18. Absolutely NO Wal-Mart!!

    If you don't want to spend the little money on gas to go to Delafield or Watertown,
    then please, BY ALL MEANS, move closer to either one.

    If they settle for this crap, then we will for sure have a new mayor and several new
    common council members next election.
  19. PLEASE do NOT build a Walmart at Pabst Farms!!! This community will fall apart,
    you will see most of the houses go up for sale in the area. New building will come to
    a stop. That is not the image we want for our community. What about a unique
    store like Ikea or something like the mall at Bayshore??? Something that will bring
    growth to our area - not trash.
  20. The last thing we need in Oconomowoc is another big box store, especially Wal-
    mart. There is one right down the road in Delafield. Let's focus on rehabilitating the
    downtown first, then find quality tenants for Pabst Farms.

    Aldi, Goodwill, and Kmart are bad enough. Our elected leaders have been making
    some very poor decisions lately...
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