Sources: Walmart to be proposed at Pabst Farms
Mayor, Pabst spokesman say retailer is speculation
City of Oconomowoc - Pabst Farms mall speculations have cropped up recently, and talk has gained momentum with speculation that Pabst will soon propose a Walmart for the space. Two sources to the Focus have indicated they heard Pabst is going to propose a Walmart on the site.
Mayor Jim Daley recently appointed aldermen James Larsen, Dave Nold and Mike Miller to an ad hoc committee to discuss "imminent" development at the site with Pabst officials. The group will meet in closed session Monday. Daley said he didn't anticipate anything being discussed in open session for at least two weeks.
When asked whether he could comment on the potential for a Walmart to be part of those discussions, Daley said any assumption on a specific tenant is premature.
"This is an exploratory meeting to start a conversation, and I don't know all the facts," Daley said of Monday's meeting with Pabst officials. "The meeting is to begin negotiations with Pabst and the city; however it's important to point out that this committee has no authority.
"It's just an exploratory group to start a conversation and get information," he added.
Pabst Farms spokesman Thad Nation agreed with the mayor's statement. "The mayor put it well. We continue to talk to retailers and look at our development plan, which remains the same as the one the city passed in 2011," Nation said.
In 2011, the city approved an amended development plan for the Pabst Farms Town Centre that would have the project built in phases instead of all at once. "As we secure retailers, that's when we will be building," said Nation.
However, exactly what retailers are possible is up in the air. Nation said there has been speculation for years on what types of retailers would end up at the Town Centre. And, he said, since the project was proposed more than six years ago, some of the possible stores discussed then as likely tenants don't even exist anymore.
"From the time it was proposed to today, we have gone through the second-worst economic downturn in the nation's history. The stores we talked about before literally don't exist," said Nation.
Both Nation and Daley said because so many retailers have gone out of business or closed stores, a large amount of vacant retail space has cropped up.
"That (failing economy) created a tremendous glut of retail space, and that's where retailers looking to expand went first and they could get good deals," said Nation.
Daley agreed.
"There has been a movement away from expanding brick and mortar in today's retail economy. When you have people no longer there, you create space available in prime market areas, and when those areas become vacant, the landowner often reduces the price significantly," Daley said.
Nation did say that as we start to see a bit of economic recovery, Pabst officials have seen retailers interested in building.
The mayor said the Common Council will discuss in open session any decision forthcoming on approving a change to the original development plan.
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38 Comments
Albigensian - Feb 14, 2013 11:07 AM
It's hard to see the Kmart surviving if there were a Wal-Mart across the street from it. And a Supercenter might take a bite out of sales at the Pabst Farms Pick-n-Save as well. I'd hope the Pick-n-Save would survive, as it's one of Roundy's finest stores. But I think trading the Kmart for a Wal-Mart would be a pretty good deal.
In any case, this is a prime retail location, and it's sure to get developed for retail someday. Therefore, we can afford to be choosy and to make demands on the developer to produce an attractive development that will be an asset to the area.
righteyeofra - Feb 14, 2013 1:17 PM
ChuckRoast - Feb 14, 2013 3:34 PM
To quote our visionary leader, "When you have people no longer there, you create space available in prime market areas, and when those areas become vacant, the landowner often reduces the price significantly," Daley said. Ironically, this is also Jimbo's economic prediction of what's going to happen to the resale value for the existing home owners in Pabst Farms.
Come one fellas, put your big boy pants on and do the hard work of finding a quality retailer to begin with. Don't settle for the first pretty girl that bats her eye's at you. You can save that for the bar.
Carbon - Feb 14, 2013 5:06 PM
Daley playing the cheerleader again for a developer again? What developer doesn't this guy work for?
Communities all over America are raising the standard for retail development. Only in Oconomowoc do we lower it. What was promised is what we should expect. Show some pride Oconomowoc, expect more.
pinkowl - Feb 14, 2013 7:18 PM
Invisible - Feb 14, 2013 8:48 PM
Stupid republican - Feb 15, 2013 7:26 AM
scupper1 - Feb 15, 2013 8:34 AM
Mayor Jim, whatever happened to merger talks with the Lake Country Fire Group? Guess, he is to busy being wined and dined by Wal-Mart these days. The overall safety of his community is now secondary to him. We already lost Summit Fire Department, and we are certainly unstaffed and equipped for the size of Oconomowoc. Possibly we need a new crop of elected officals who care about our overall safety. Make sure you tell Wal-Mart our fire department is undersized!!
DigitalManCave - Feb 15, 2013 9:14 AM
citizenff - Feb 15, 2013 12:06 PM
Mucho - Feb 15, 2013 2:37 PM
http://fullyarticulated.typepad.com/sprawledout/2007/12/new-pabst-farm.html
Way to leverage a TIF to lure in the elusive WalMart. You hit the jackpot.
sharpaxe - Feb 16, 2013 6:13 AM
Downtown business has been destroyed. An entire city block, right downtown, is an embarrassing eyesore, not to mention the massive amount of tax revenue lost over all these years. We were told "more green space, more green space", but let's put up a big condo developement right on the lake, instead of the blighted block where it should be. Future village green? (lawsuit against building owner) Parking for the new community center? (eminent domain lawsuit)
Pabst Farms? Wow, I don't even know where to start. What WILL happen though, is the Walmart issue will divide this community worse than the whole Aurora hospital fiasco. (BTW-both hospitals are still open and making money, right?)
Can't really blame any one individual, this has been going on for so long.
ocono123 - Feb 16, 2013 6:37 AM
be much better than a Walmart!!! I agree we need something in town rather than
just Kmart- that store is just awful, but please consider a Target first!!
sharpaxe - Feb 16, 2013 6:48 AM
stillriding - Feb 16, 2013 6:53 AM
Stupid republican - Feb 16, 2013 1:35 PM
RedBlue - Feb 17, 2013 7:13 AM
And it goes deeper than that. This would be a serious, perhaps fatal blow to many of our local businesses, who care so much, who do so much for our community (downtown events, author visits by Books & Company, etc.).
Please, please develop with intelligence and care at Pabst Farms. Please say "No!" to Walmart at Pabst Farms.
OconRes - Feb 17, 2013 9:31 AM
If you don't want to spend the little money on gas to go to Delafield or Watertown,
then please, BY ALL MEANS, move closer to either one.
If they settle for this crap, then we will for sure have a new mayor and several new
common council members next election.
ALakeCountryMom - Feb 17, 2013 1:00 PM
you will see most of the houses go up for sale in the area. New building will come to
a stop. That is not the image we want for our community. What about a unique
store like Ikea or something like the mall at Bayshore??? Something that will bring
growth to our area - not trash.
medtechmom - Feb 17, 2013 9:43 PM
mart. There is one right down the road in Delafield. Let's focus on rehabilitating the
downtown first, then find quality tenants for Pabst Farms.
Aldi, Goodwill, and Kmart are bad enough. Our elected leaders have been making
some very poor decisions lately...